What's Floyd's fascination with Pac and Arums business dealings?

@ topic C'mon, Floyd just want to mess with MP because he wants to Pac to be like him by getting off Arum. Secondly, he will definitely be able to make his revenge against Arum. Unfortunately, Boxing is no WWE and Pac, has an IQ good enough to get away from making stupid decisions. besides, who cares if MP doesn't earn even a dollar? I just don't know why the fight between MP and Floyd has been this technical when boxing fans are just suppose to think about the fight. Whether his earnings are all messed up or not, its not our money. Floyd is the one who has the history regarding problems with money not Pac.

Of course, but Floyd is using the same type of talk from when he was faced with the questions of facing Cotto. Floyd was like "Cotto needs to become his own boss before I fight him". By that logic, Floyd is saying he doesnt want to fight anyone who has a promoter. Not a promoter, Bob Arum. I mean floyd is suing him for not paying him everything he earned. Now floyd talks alot of ****, but lets be real if anyone knows about how Bob Arum screws over fighters its floyd mayweather. Thats whats lost in all this BS, ODH and floyd actually KNOW what they are talking about when it comes to TR's business dealings. No one can deny that.

Manny said "there is no more issue with OST but guaranteed purse is still an issue" on ESPN interview last week. How is that floyd's fault? Manny has issues with how much he gets paid by TR when he fights. ONow I'm speculating, but I can't believe floyd is gonna take less so manny can get what he wants to sign to fight. MAnny has to work that out with TR and Arum. Right? Of course, but Floyd is using the same type of talk from when he was faced with the questions of facing Cotto. Floyd was like "Cotto needs to become his own boss before I fight him". By that logic, Floyd is saying he doesnt want to fight anyone who has a promoter.

So its not just the testing then? Now its Pac's contract with Arum too? What happened to, take the test and the fight is on? Manny said "there is no more issue with OST but guaranteed purse is still an issue" on ESPN interview last week. How is that floyd's fault? Manny has issues with how much he gets paid by TR when he fights. ONow I'm speculating, but I can't believe floyd is gonna take less so manny can get what he wants to sign to fight. MAnny has to work that out with TR and Arum. Right?

Hey Deveel: All BS aside, you think maybe floyd is trying to wait until manny leaves TR to do fight? So its not just the testing then? Now its Pac's contract with Arum too? What happened to, take the test and the fight is on?

For the past 2yrs, aside from mentioning that Pac has to take the test, he also never fails to bring up how Pac has the worst deal in boxing and gives up 30% of his purse to Arum. I dont get why this concerns Floyd? As long as Floyd's money isnt getting touched, what is it to him what Pac does with his money or how much he has to give up to his promoter? Floyd likes to say that he keeps 100% of his purse money. Really? Are we to believe that Oscar/GBP promotes for free? LOL. Hey Deveel: All BS aside, you think maybe floyd is trying to wait until manny leaves TR to do fight?

I assume you misunderstood..... His check meaning "What does Manny have to do when he gets his check" & What does Floyd do with his after getting it? GBP gets a cut of the pot, but Floyd keeps his check... get it By your logic, all boxers keep 100% of what's left over after the promoters take their cut. LOL.

Here's how they make more money without Arum. And I'll explain it to you in the simplest terms I can. You have a pizza pie. There are six guys in the room. Everyone is hungry. So, each guy will get X amount. Now, if we kill of one guy - guess what - the amount we can each get changes. It is now Y amount. And Y > X. The fewer mouths to feed, the more the principals and participants can get, HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS? Floyd wants to control the promotion. That is why he wants Manny to dump Arum. Floyd does not wantto do a split (co-) promotion with TR. Because TR will (naturally) want X amount of the profits. Without TR in the picture, more profits to split . What a stupid analogy.:lol1: so where did the pizza come from? heaven?:lol1: If there are 6 guys to share the pizza, 6 guys will also share the cost to buy the pizza. The same is true for 5 guys. While it is true that each of the 6 guys will get a smaller share than the 5's, their cash outlay is also smaller. What you get is proportionate to what you contributed so it doesn't mean that fewer guys is automatically favorable. Promoting fights is the same, it's a business venture and it involves risks. The large purse by floyd and pac alone is already a huge risk to take for any promoter. If GBP is the sole promoter of this fight, how sure are they that they can recover the promotional costs? Maybe they could but where are they going to get the financing? Do they have enough money for this kind of fight? Or they're going to get some short-term loans with high interests which they could easily avoid if they co-promote with top rank. And what if they don't get their target ppv numbers? And with regards to floyd promoting the fight, that's just a big bull$hit. Floyd's promotional company is just a dummy even in his own fights. He gets his guaranteed purse, his share of the ppv and his promotional company will get a very small percentage of the profits for some cheap promotional gimmicks that floyd himself does. His promotional company does not share in the cost of promoting the fight because he simply doesn't have the kind of money that's needed to promote a big fight. In other words, whether top rank is involved or not floyd will still get the same amount of money because his share is based on guarantees and percentages.

I assume you misunderstood..... His check meaning "What does Manny have to do when he gets his check" & What does Floyd do with his after getting it? GBP gets a cut of the pot, but Floyd keeps his check... get it And Arum gets a cut of the pot, and Manny keeps his check. So whats the difference? Nothing. Now bounce. At least Dios can be amusing with his annoyance as he dances around. You're simply annoying.

So De La Hoya, Schaeffer and Co, work for free? They just put in all of their time and effort into Floyd Mayweather Jr just for ****s sake? Gino, you better talk this guy down from his soapbox.I assume you misunderstood..... His check meaning "What does Manny have to do when he gets his check" & What does Floyd do with his after getting it? GBP gets a cut of the pot, but Floyd keeps his check... get it

I'm done with you. You are a silly cunt. Really. Out. 50 million estimated for each fighter as of right now, double it.

Of course you'd try to slap me like a woman. Floyd is your hero. I'd be willing to bet you'd wait until I wasn't looking. I'm done with you. You are a silly cunt. Really. Out.

Advice? LOL. Lately it just seems as if he's using this as a reason for which he doesnt care to fight him. I just dont understand it. If I were a pro boxer, what should I care what percentage of his purse my opponent pockets? For the record, Floyd does not keep 100% of his money. He has to pony up a percentage to Delahoya. Do you really think Oscar promotes Floyd's fights for free? Well floyd saying that pac should be smart and leave arum is not as bad as saying please no I'm scared of needles or going from a 3 week gap to a 2 week gap then a 3 day gap then no gap at all then a lawsuit then a 10 million dollar request penalty LOL..that's pac and arum for you :) oh yea I forgot to add..please no USADA ..we don't trust Americans :lol1:

The $100 million number that you pulled out of your ass? Here's the thing about finance. we don't pull random numbers out of our asses. Show where you got the number.... You are a punk-ass. If you were in front of me, I would slap you like a woman. Of course you'd try to slap me like a woman. Floyd is your hero. I'd be willing to bet you'd wait until I wasn't looking.

I ask you to show the quote where I said $100 million... you can't. I challenge you to a economics/finance discussion, you pus$y out. Are you mad because your illiterate congressman is getting assf*cked out of money by an 80 year old man? That's not my fault. ...still waiting for that quote. Where I said $100 milly. Tick, tock... Theres nothing to debate. I don't care if Manny fights for free. Its not my money. I'm still waiting for you to show us how they can both get paid significantly more. Its estimated they can each get 50 mil. Ok, you're the self proclaimed genius. Double it. Shoot Bob Arum and he can't eat pie

I don't need to quote anything, you're the self proclaimed accounting genius around here. Show me and the rest of the board how Oscar gets both Manny and Floyd 100 million. The $100 million number that you pulled out of your ass? Here's the thing about finance. we don't pull random numbers out of our asses. Show where you got the number.... You are a punk-ass. If you were in front of me, I would slap you like a woman.

I ask you to show the quote where I said $100 million... you can't. I challenge you to a economics/finance discussion, you pus$y out. Are you mad because your illiterate congressman is getting assf*cked out of money by an 80 year old man? That's not my fault. ...still waiting for that quote. Where I said $100 milly. Tick, tock...

Did I say $100 million? Why should I try to prove a number you just pulled out of your ass? Show the quote where I gave a purse number. I'm waiting. I don't need to quote anything, you're the self proclaimed accounting genius around here. Show me and the rest of the board how Oscar gets both Manny and Floyd 100 million.

Now go ahead, tell me how they make 100 million each. I'd love to hear it. Did I say $100 million? Why should I try to prove a number you just pulled out of your ass? Show the quote where I gave a purse number. I'm waiting.

Do you know what "hire" means? He pays them to perform a service, meaning, he doesn't get 100% of anything. Coincidentally, the service Floyd pays for, is the same exact service Bob Arum does for Manny Pacquiao. The only difference being, Manny is on a long term contract and Floyd is on a fight by fight basis. What do you think Bob is for Manny? Hes a contractor. But Manny is LOCKED IN to a contract and can't negotiate a lower fee. Floyd can (and does) negotiate and shop promoters. remember the Don king overtures? Who promoted the Baldomir fight? GTP. Manny doesn't have that flexibility. Resultingly, Floyd makes SUBSTANTIALLY more than Manny does,