Can you see the greatness in Ortiz personality...

It's very hard to judge from the footage on tv etc. In my experience truly chilled out dudes are extremely rare, usually they lack confidence/are cowards so they just seem chill. But then again it was his biggest opportunity and took it pretty well. If I hadn't seen the berto fight I'd say he lacks heart but after seeing it can't say he does.

Are you kidding me? he the biggest faker ive ever seen. Hes a lair as well. Hes the type that dont want to be seen as embarassed so he acts like hes all chilled with it. But in reality he bottles it up inside. You wanna know someone who fakes and hides his true feelings? Money

Are you kidding me? he the biggest faker ive ever seen. Hes a lair as well. Hes the type that dont want to be seen as embarassed so he acts like hes all chilled with it. But in reality he bottles it up inside.

There's a great old movie called "Being There". Peter Sellers plays a semi-retarded gardener whose simplicity is mistaken for profundity. The movie ends with his character one step from the White House. While it's true that the wise are often simple in speech, it doesn't follow that the simple in speech are often wise. Victor's a space cadet.

Can't blame him though.

And brains sadly.

The kid has the surfer mentality.

no i dont. it's his biggest flaw. says mr saint anger hahaha

nah...to me, he looks like a dude that gives unclear answers. like you expect him to say something but he says something not completely different but different enough to the point where he thinks its intelligent and it would finally just piss me off. deep huh lol. remember at the post presser when some guy asked him why he was so happy then he switched emotions to answer it? that was so phucking wack LOL.

and you would have went night night like ortiz did. but it seems to be something Ortiz learned while growing up. cant hold grudges. you ahve to let that stuff go or or the person still has control over you. lol at him being "deep" Haha sometimes I wish I had it, I would of played it cool then when the gloves came off I would of spark him out.

Ive read a book called siddhartha and its about more or less how to live life of in a Buddhism kind of mentality. Well it teached how you have to let go of any emotion which drain or poisons your well being. I see this in Ortiz he speaks the truth even if it becomes in an error of his. He gives no biggie he seems he holds no grudge over any action thing or person, and it seems very natural to him. Unlike me I wanted to kick May a$$ once he took the cheap shots and Ortiz brushed it off like nothing. At first I was skeptic and took Ortiz lightness as stupidity or immaturity. But the more I hear him talk and his expressions I see this greatness that comes so natural to him. His a deep dude... Thoughts? Flowing like the "River" may be a great attitude towards life, my brother, but greatness at competitive sports requires iron will. That said, I agree with the following quotes. Hmm... gormless moronic grin or zen-like enlightened mind? I'll go with gormless halfwit. But he probably is a nice guy. Too nice for his own good.

But he probably is a nice guy. Too nice for his own good.

Hmm... gormless moronic grin or zen-like enlightened mind? I'll go with gormless halfwit.

That non chalant attitude will get him no where in boxing or any competitive sport. He got a benchwarmer attitude. "Just happy to be here" type shiit is for losers.

As a boxing personality? no, he doesn't want to win badly enough. Outside of the ring he seems like a top bloke.