Ive defended Floyd for years, but that was just trash what he did. For the ones using the head butt as an excuse.....give me a break. I think it was more just caught up in the moment, and based on pure emotion. I could be wrong, but that's my thought on that.
As for the KO.....its like this, It's like a team has the football with 30 seconds left and up by 25 and they fake knee then go deep for a td, yeah its legal, but its classless and shows no respect. What i noticed last night is what i had feared, Floyd while still quick did look more stationary, and not as fast as used to seeing him. I had the fight 3-1 Floyd up until that point, but some can make the case of 2-2. Either way, i saw an Ortiz that was starting to come on and maybe start his type of fight, but well never know. Though i strongly feel that Floyd KNEW DEEP DOWN, he had messed up and thats why he quickly said rematch if wanted.
So why the cheap KO, maybe it was because he started to feel the bigger mans punches (mainly body shots), and was looking for anyway to get out of there. I dont know and neither do ANY OF YOU, so we can only speculate. Floyd is a ticking time bomb, and its only a matter of time before Floyd self destructs. While there are only a handful of you on here that will defend Floyd NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, i dont listen to yall as yall are such fan boys its comical. I love and repsect the sport and all of its attractions if its, Pac, Floyd, Amir, Gamboa, Donaire, ect....but im not gonna BS the story.
I don't agree with what he did, but it wasn't illegal. I put more of the blame on Ortiz. He initiated the dirty fight with his headbutts. He was aware Cortez timed in, and he went for a hug, which Floyd obliged. Anything after that, is all on Ortiz. He was just plain stupid. You lose focus in this game for one second, somebody gets hurt.
What fight were you watching? He was dominating the entire fight. Ortiz is the dirty fighter here. If is wasn't for the head butt,this discussion wouldn't even exist. there would be 1 million other excuses to why Ortiz lost
what figth was i watching?...lol..what fight were you watching?...
ortiz won second round and was owning floyd in the 4rth before cortez fukk it all up...
you flomos cant be honest about anything..
Ive defended Floyd for years, but that was just trash what he did. For the ones using the head butt as an excuse.....give me a break. I think it was more just caught up in the moment, and based on pure emotion. I could be wrong, but that's my thought on that.
And Floyd's "cheap" but perfectly legal punch was what? Do u really think after being headbutted that Floyd didn't have "pure emotion" boiling up inside him, and he couldn't wait for the opportunity to return the favor? U could see it on his face... He was pissed... He was trying to hold it in, but couldn't... That's pure emotion ain't it...
Victor's foul was out of emotion, sure... It was frustration.
But Floyd's none-foul was also, how can u say its not? Be real
watching the ending again i agree with the people that say floyd didn't expect those two shots to end the night. i'm basing this off his body language while ortiz was trying to make the count. to me it looked like he was thinking "oh shit. this motherfucker ain't gonna make the count." and when cortez waved the fight off, mayweather calmly walked to the center and raised his hand. usually, floyd is more enthusiastic over a victory jumping on the rope, fake crying, and thanking god. he didn't do any of that this time.
Agree 100% and really think thats why he said, rematch RIGHT AFTER. How Floyd was looking at him was like, come one Vic get up.
watching the ending again i agree with the people that say floyd didn't expect those two shots to end the night. i'm basing this off his body language while ortiz was trying to make the count. to me it looked like he was thinking "oh shit. this motherfucker ain't gonna make the count." and when cortez waved the fight off, mayweather calmly walked to the center and raised his hand. usually, floyd is more enthusiastic over a victory jumping on the rope, fake crying, and thanking god. he didn't do any of that this time.
I agree. Floyd was getting hit more than we are used to seeing and I think he was getting hit more than he imagined he would. That could be why he took the 2 shots instead of waiting. Its possible he wanted to end the fight while he knew he could rather than risk taking anymore punishment. Round 3 and the beginning of 4 was clearly Floyd but then Ortiz started to come on again and looked pretty good. I'm very dissapointed with the outcome. He likely would have won but I would rather have seen it in another way. Now we'll never know.
Ive defended Floyd for years, but that was just trash what he did. For the ones using the head butt as an excuse.....give me a break. I think it was more just caught up in the moment, and based on pure emotion. I could be wrong, but that's my thought on that. Caught up in the moment? How many times are you going to apologize for an intentional foul you committed on the other guy? Dude hugged him, tapped his glove, kissed his cheek and felt that wasn't enough? The ref penalized him, and told him don't be doing that and "LET'S GO." Ortiz shook his head in approval, knowing exactly wtf was going on. Where was the "break" at?
As for the KO.....its like this, It's like a team has the football with 30 seconds left and up by 25 and they fake knee then go deep for a td, yeah its legal, but its classless and shows no respect. What i noticed last night is what i had feared, Floyd while still quick did look more stationary, and not as fast as used to seeing him. I had the fight 3-1 Floyd up until that point, but some can make the case of 2-2. Either way, i saw an Ortiz that was starting to come on and maybe start his type of fight, but well never know. Though i strongly feel that Floyd KNEW DEEP DOWN, he had messed up and thats why he quickly said rematch if wanted. The Patriots do that all the time and do you know what the so called NFL experts and media say about it? "If you don't like it, stop it." I don't know what fight you saw, but Floyd was moving better than he did against Mosley or JMM. Threw his rights and avoided the punches when Ortiz was fresher to start the fight. I just really believe the hate people have for him use that against him. Not only did Ortiz leap in with a headbutt, but he followed that up with a punch while Cortez was separating them.
So why the cheap KO, maybe it was because he started to feel the bigger mans punches (mainly body shots), and was looking for anyway to get out of there. I dont know and neither do ANY OF YOU, so we can only speculate. Floyd is a ticking time bomb, and its only a matter of time before Floyd self destructs. While there are only a handful of you on here that will defend Floyd NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, i dont listen to yall as yall are such fan boys its comical. I love and repsect the sport and all of its attractions if its, Pac, Floyd, Amir, Gamboa, Donaire, ect....but im not gonna BS the story.
Cheap KO? Ortiz looked flustered when the point was taken from him. He was throwing when Floyd was against the ropes, but landing very little. You could see it in his eyes. He knew he ****ed up with the headbutt and wasn't all there yet. That was evident by him keeping his hands down as Cortez told them "let's go"
That's how I see it though. I really don't think people should cry foul on Ortiz's behalf when all of this transpired cause of his actions. A point was taken, and Floyd didn't need time to recuperate. It wasn't a low blow nor a head butt that cut him over the eye. Point deducted, instructions to keep it clean were given and the fight continued. Why Ortiz felt he had to keep apologizing is beyond me.
becuse he was getting caught by good solid shots......he knew it wold've been a long hard night for his ass...
What fight were you watching? He was dominating the entire fight. Ortiz is the dirty fighter here. If is wasn't for the head butt,this discussion wouldn't even exist. there would be 1 million other excuses to why Ortiz lost
I totally agree with the TS.
I normally defend Floyd and support him. After this disgrace, I have lost a lot of respect for him. He gets no credit for that win by me.
I see your point, i do. It was kind of classless but you dont head butt a man and not expect retaliation. Protect yourself at all times. One point that no one has mentioned.....Mayweather did this is his last fight and vs Gatti. Ortiz's trainers should have advised Ortiz not drop his guard against Floyd or you will be subject to getting socked in the face. Which is 100% legal! I see your point though, but he has done it before and he was clearly dominating those previous fights he socked dudes in the face in, so i dont think he was scared.
I agree that the butt was totally uncalled for, but i think what really gets me is that in a sense, the ref was used as an accessory.
Ive defended Floyd for years, but that was just trash what he did. For the ones using the head butt as an excuse.....give me a break. I think it was more just caught up in the moment, and based on pure emotion. I could be wrong, but that's my thought on that.
As for the KO.....its like this, It's like a team has the football with 30 seconds left and up by 25 and they fake knee then go deep for a td, yeah its legal, but its classless and shows no respect. What i noticed last night is what i had feared, Floyd while still quick did look more stationary, and not as fast as used to seeing him. I had the fight 3-1 Floyd up until that point, but some can make the case of 2-2. Either way, i saw an Ortiz that was starting to come on and maybe start his type of fight, but well never know. Though i strongly feel that Floyd KNEW DEEP DOWN, he had messed up and thats why he quickly said rematch if wanted.
So why the cheap KO, maybe it was because he started to feel the bigger mans punches (mainly body shots), and was looking for anyway to get out of there. I dont know and neither do ANY OF YOU, so we can only speculate. Floyd is a ticking time bomb, and its only a matter of time before Floyd self destructs. While there are only a handful of you on here that will defend Floyd NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, i dont listen to yall as yall are such fan boys its comical. I love and repsect the sport and all of its attractions if its, Pac, Floyd, Amir, Gamboa, Donaire, ect....but im not gonna BS the story.
Agree with this.
Ive defended Floyd for years, but that was just trash what he did. For the ones using the head butt as an excuse.....give me a break. I think it was more just caught up in the moment, and based on pure emotion. I could be wrong, but that's my thought on that.
As for the KO.....its like this, It's like a team has the football with 30 seconds left and up by 25 and they fake knee then go deep for a td, yeah its legal, but its classless and shows no respect. What i noticed last night is what i had feared, Floyd while still quick did look more stationary, and not as fast as used to seeing him. I had the fight 3-1 Floyd up until that point, but some can make the case of 2-2. Either way, i saw an Ortiz that was starting to come on and maybe start his type of fight, but well never know. Though i strongly feel that Floyd KNEW DEEP DOWN, he had messed up and thats why he quickly said rematch if wanted.
So why the cheap KO, maybe it was because he started to feel the bigger mans punches (mainly body shots), and was looking for anyway to get out of there. I dont know and neither do ANY OF YOU, so we can only speculate. Floyd is a ticking time bomb, and its only a matter of time before Floyd self destructs. While there are only a handful of you on here that will defend Floyd NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, i dont listen to yall as yall are such fan boys its comical. I love and repsect the sport and all of its attractions if its, Pac, Floyd, Amir, Gamboa, Donaire, ect....but im not gonna BS the story.
I see your point, i do. It was kind of classless but you dont head butt a man and not expect retaliation. Protect yourself at all times. One point that no one has mentioned.....Mayweather did this is his last fight and vs Gatti. Ortiz's trainers should have advised Ortiz not drop his guard against Floyd or you will be subject to getting socked in the face. Which is 100% legal! I see your point though, but he has done it before and he was clearly dominating those previous fights he socked dudes in the face in, so i dont think he was scared.
if you want to pay for some guys to hug each ten plus go watch the ufc you cawk sucker, they came to fight and floyd knocked his ass out end of story. What Ortiz did was 100 times worse then what Money did.
Keep Hating Money keeps winning
Yeah people like you is why UFC people laugh at us and say boxing is dead.
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