Time for some of you to watch the replay joe cortez had restarted the fight

also dont forget that we faintly heard Cortez say "Fight", but Ortiz didnt, we have the bonus of having Cortez mic'ed up. If we barely heard Cortez say fight thru a microphone, what chance did Ortiz hear it with a ton of people yelling in the arena? People seem to think that they can hear, they couldnt, we barely heard it and had to slow it down just to hear. Ortiz doesnt have luxury of Having Cortez being miced up in his ear. It was shady Reffing and one of the worst I seen in my life, look who was sitting and doing the undercards 1) Kenny Bayless 2) Tony Weeks 3) Vic Drac 4) Jeff Nady All 4 guys are way better than Cortez, and I think Kenny Bayless is #2 Ref in world behind Steve Smoger. Yeah i def would have preferred any of those refs listed. I have Steve smoger as my number 2 behind KB

My son is a amateur boxer the refs cant talk to the because the use hand gestures that lets the fighters know fight. The reason is boxing is international and dont want fighters who speak the same language as the ref to have an advantage. cortez motioned the fighters in to fight Floyd did and Ortiz didnt fight over. With that being said Cortez shouldn't have turned his back on the fighters after telling them to fight

also dont forget that we faintly heard Cortez say "Fight", but Ortiz didnt, we have the bonus of having Cortez mic'ed up. If we barely heard Cortez say fight thru a microphone, what chance did Ortiz hear it with a ton of people yelling in the arena? People seem to think that they can hear, they couldnt, we barely heard it and had to slow it down just to hear. Ortiz doesnt have luxury of Having Cortez being miced up in his ear. It was shady Reffing and one of the worst I seen in my life, look who was sitting and doing the undercards 1) Kenny Bayless 2) Tony Weeks 3) Vic Drac 4) Jeff Nady All 4 guys are way better than Cortez, and I think Kenny Bayless is #2 Ref in world behind Steve Smoger.

after the head but joe pulled them apart took away the point moved ortiz to the separate corner told him not to do that again then looked over to Floyd in the other corner and clearly said "lets go" and motioned for them to to re engage. He looks over to the time keep and asked did the bell ring? because he knew there was little time left in the round. The fact that Victor ortiz tried to apologize for a third time is on him Mayweather had his hands up and was still clearly upset over what happened Victor Ortiz just learned you can't try to make a boxing match into a street fight then try and take it back. EXACTLY!! I post this in another thread.

EXACTLY!! i post this in another thread.

Ortiz tried to head butt him a few times before he landed the last one so it was part of his game plan obviously. Intentional head butts are one of the dirtiest moves in boxing and it looked good on Ortiz getting knocked out after what he did with the next 2 punches. Mayweather gave him a couple of shots when he obviously wasnt ready but i doubt he thought he would drop him like that. Its Ortiz own fault he lost and he should be more embarassed than Mayweather. I just watched that re-play Dedication posted. It definitely looks like that was plan all along: to "get him on the ropes and use your head to rough him up". There's no other way they could've beaten Floyd.

I don't believe any other ref would've expected that sort of reaction from any fighter that night. It caught Cortez, and no less Vic, off guard. Nobody would've mentioned jack sh*t about Cortez had the fight rolled on after he waved both fighters to continue. That was a disqualification warranted headbutt. Not no "1 point off" penalty.

Cortez did his job. Floyd could've played it classier by cooling off then opening up on Vic. Sooner or later that KO was coming. Floyd was ahead on the cards. Ortiz tried to head butt him a few times before he landed the last one so it was part of his game plan obviously. Intentional head butts are one of the dirtiest moves in boxing and it looked good on Ortiz getting knocked out after what he did with the next 2 punches. Mayweather gave him a couple of shots when he obviously wasnt ready but i doubt he thought he would drop him like that. Its Ortiz own fault he lost and he should be more embarassed than Mayweather.

Cortez messed up for two reasons. When a foul is committed, the ref should send the fighter that was fouled to a neutral corner, and then warn or take a point away from the fighter who committed the foul. He should also stop the clock to do all of this. Instead he allowed them to basically wander the ring. Even if he said "Lets go!" he has to control and BE in control of the action. Meaning, bring the fighters together or initiate the fight from the center of the ring. Instead he turned to the side looking and talking to the time keeper and allowed Floyd to sucker punch Ortiz. Bad, bad job by Cortez. He really made a mess of this one and I like Cortez, know him personally and think he's a great guy but he didn't go by the book on this one. And what you just said was the problem i had with Cortez last night it wasn't that he wasnt looking at the end it was that it was kind of sloppy how he handled the break they engaged on their own twice during the break usually a ref NEVER lets the fighters come close to each other. i felt like he did call the fight back in but i do feel like he did it in such a sloppy fashion that now we have this.

One thing people are forgetting is that floyd was taxing that ass. He was dominating and was on a course for a very easy win. regardless of that, the rules of boxing must be respected and applied. If they are, the title will return to ortiz and this will be declared a no contest Somehow, I doubt for the relevant powers to be to have the bollocks to apply the rules. WIth all the controversy that is surrounding the fight i would not be bothered by it being turned to a NC just because a title should not change hands on a ending like this I think all three people in the ring played a part in the fight turning out the way it did, no one is blameless but a championship fight should only be controversial if the scores are close and for no other reason

I just watched the ending sequence again he told the fighters to re engage but never called time in but he did clearly tell the fighters to start fighting again. So the instruction given to Floyd and Victor were to start fighting he actually asked the time keeper had the bell ring as if he assumed once he said lets go to the fighters the time keeper automatically restarted the fight. he never said time in he just asked the time keeper "did the bell ring?" as if the clock restarted on his "lets go" call. It looks like he did mess up by not officially saying time in but he clearly gave instruction to the two fighters to start fighting again. Cortez messed up for two reasons. When a foul is committed, the ref should send the fighter that was fouled to a neutral corner, and then warn or take a point away from the fighter who committed the foul. He should also stop the clock to do all of this. Instead he allowed them to basically wander the ring. Even if he said "Lets go!" he has to control and BE in control of the action. Meaning, bring the fighters together or initiate the fight from the center of the ring. Instead he turned to the side looking and talking to the time keeper and allowed Floyd to sucker punch Ortiz. Bad, bad job by Cortez. He really made a mess of this one and I like Cortez, know him personally and think he's a great guy but he didn't go by the book on this one.

Man even though i don't think Joe cortez is totally to blame for this i would have sooooo rather seen Kenny Bayless as the ref he is my favorite always attentive and on top of EVERYTHING! One thing people are forgetting is that floyd was taxing that ass. He was dominating and was on a course for a very easy win. regardless of that, the rules of boxing must be respected and applied. If they are, the title will return to ortiz and this will be declared a no contest Somehow, I doubt for the relevant powers to be to have the bollocks to apply the rules.

Exactly, this is Officiating 101: Both Fighters in opposite corners, only when u call time-in do u tell the fighters to fight on, and u dont turn your back to them to talk to the time-keeper. Joe Cortez got his starring roll again, sad thing is that Kenny Bayless, Tony Weeks and Vic Drac, Jeff Nady were all in the house doing undercards, yet this moron does the Main Event? This WOULD NEVER happened with the other ref's. Because they have control Man even though i don't think Joe cortez is totally to blame for this i would have sooooo rather seen Kenny Bayless as the ref he is my favorite always attentive and on top of EVERYTHING!

To restart the fight you need to restart the clock to re start the clock you need both guys in neutral sides, after he says time in then he tells the fighters to fight again it should be a no contest Here is the problem is there a standardize way a ref has to call the fight back in? I know a lot of you have watched hundreds of boxing matches just like myself and I hear some refs after a break yell "box" some say "time in" joe Cortez says "lets go" but he, just like all over refs makes the universal hand gesture that means re engage (hands far apart with palms open then bring them together) I assume they use the hand gesture because not all refs are bi lingual and will call the fight back in using more than one language. so if in the rules is it the words time in that you have to say? are the time keepers supposed to be watching for the hand gesture? because i know in every fight i have watched not every ref has blatantly looked over and said time in a lot just motion for the fighters to re engage.

After the headbutt Ortiz hugged and kissed Floyd on the cheek. He said sorry to Floyd and the ref so why did he feel the need to touch gloves/hug AGAIN? When he tried to touch gloves for the last time, Floyd had his hands up then waited a sec then unloaded. Ortiz should've been more aware, protect yourself at all times. It's the most basic principle to boxing a fighter should know!! Saying that Cortez should be forced in to retirement, he's finished.

To restart the fight you need to restart the clock to re start the clock you need both guys in neutral sides, after he says time in then he tells the fighters to fight again it should be a no contest Exactly, this is Officiating 101: Both Fighters in opposite corners, only when u call time-in do u tell the fighters to fight on, and u dont turn your back to them to talk to the time-keeper. Joe Cortez got his starring roll again, sad thing is that Kenny Bayless, Tony Weeks and Vic Drac, Jeff Nady were all in the house doing undercards, yet this moron does the Main Event? This WOULD NEVER happened with the other ref's. Because they have control

To restart the fight you need to restart the clock to re start the clock you need both guys in neutral sides, after he says time in then he tells the fighters to fight again it should be a no contest

The Time was never officially in, infact, how much time was left in the round? The clock NEVER MOVED, floyd shouldve been in his neutral corner, until Cortez called time-in with the commision. You know when he called time-in with the official? When Floyd was 2 feet away from him dropping Ortiz. How can it be legal KO if the Official clock was never called in? wasnt there a few seconds left in the round? Didnt they hug for a few seconds? THIS is why you dont have Joe Cortez work fights, you can literally sucker punch dudes right infront of Cortez and he will just look at you. I just watched the ending sequence again he told the fighters to re engage but never called time in but he did clearly tell the fighters to start fighting again. So the instruction given to Floyd and Victor were to start fighting he actually asked the time keeper had the bell ring as if he assumed once he said lets go to the fighters the time keeper automatically restarted the fight. he never said time in he just asked the time keeper "did the bell ring?" as if the clock restarted on his "lets go" call. It looks like he did mess up by not officially saying time in but he clearly gave instruction to the two fighters to start fighting again.

I agree I really did not like the way the fight ended. But This was not on cortez he moved them to opposite corners took the point then CLEARLY said lets go and did the hand motion with his hands for them to re engage. Once the ref makes that motion the two fighters are on their own as far as what they decide to do. wish vic didn't headbut and i wish floyd would have only thrown that first punch. i was looking forward to seeing the whole fight

after the head but joe pulled them apart took away the point moved ortiz to the separate corner told him not to do that again then looked over to Floyd in the other corner and clearly said "lets go" and motioned for them to to re engage. He looks over to the time keep and asked did the bell ring? because he knew there was little time left in the round. The fact that Victor ortiz tried to apologize for a third time is on him Mayweather had his hands up and was still clearly upset over what happened Victor Ortiz just learned you can't try to make a boxing match into a street fight then try and take it back. The Time was never officially in, infact, how much time was left in the round? The clock NEVER MOVED, floyd shouldve been in his neutral corner, until Cortez called time-in with the commision. You know when he called time-in with the official? When Floyd was 2 feet away from him dropping Ortiz. How can it be legal KO if the Official clock was never called in? wasnt there a few seconds left in the round? Didnt they hug for a few seconds? THIS is why you dont have Joe Cortez work fights, you can literally sucker punch dudes right infront of Cortez and he will just look at you.