What Did Last Night Tell Us About a Pac Fight? Floyd Beats Pac

(Note: I'm discussing points which came to light after last night, not a Floyd/Pac comparison in general- that's been done to death on these forums) A 144/145 Pac on fight night, with a huge reach disadvantage, will struggle all night. There's the obvious: Ortiz weighed almost 15lbs more and has the power to back it up, but even after Floyd's lay off he wasn't intimidated. When Floyd began working the jab Ortiz noticed. It's still lightning quick. Cotto and particularly JMM made inroads with theirs. Floyd will dominate with his. But what impressed me most: When Ortiz tried to lean, Floyd did everything; rolled, blocked, countered, even leaned forward to resist. He still hasn't lost his natural muscle strength. When Pac tries his best to get on the inside and eventually does, Floyd can outwork him, but I think he'll be happier to lean and smother and make him feel it. I would want Pac to win, but before and after last night, I can't see how it happens. Not at all.

Comments (20)

joesaiditstrue

Ive said this for a long time, the only guy with the ability to beat Floyd Mayweather is Paul Williams. Not the skills mind you, just the ability. Floyd will NEVER lose to a guy his size. Unless the guy he is fighting has a significant height, reach advantage AND similar skill level, Floyd will win because his mental game is so so strong. actually that's not a bad thought but I don't think Paul Williams would beat Floyd (yeah yeah, "fantasy fights"), I think the only type of fighter that could beat Floyd is somebody like Pacquiao but without the size disadvantage, somebody like martinez I still think Floyd is a better boxer than Sergio, but it would be Floyd's toughest fight (not Pacquiao)

14y ago

Pacdroid

Take the test Pac you fuken *****

14y ago

Ryannn

Pac does not have the ability to beat Floyd other than a punchers chance , Floyd is too good in all departments , he will be a lot stronger than Pac people dont realize how strong Floyd is , they have been blinded by a flashy style thinking its cowardice lol , Floyd is sitting down more these days and is showing more of what he has by doing so , Pac cant beat the running potshoting Floyd , and he cant beat the strong destructive break you down Floyd ,,,,, when Floyd schools him and makes it look easy I hope people realize what a truly great boxer he is . and yet you guys cry "take the tests!" fukking stans. you are no better than the pactards you so deeply loathe

14y ago

JDezi4

1 thing u notice, when Ortiz had Floyd against the ropes (prior to the headbutt) although Floyd was getting out of the way very well, he was still in pure defense mode... Hopefully he knows better than to do that with Manny becuz Manny's smart enough (or, at least Roach is) to know to do that from round 1 on, and if Floyd's just gonna let him, he's gonna lose... We'll see

14y ago

Reloaded

everytime floyd or pac fights, there comes an argument why x beats y. bottom line, both have the ability to give each other problems and should be around 50-50 or the slightest advantage to floyd. him beating ortiz in that cheap manner haven't convinced me otherwise Pac does not have the ability to beat Floyd other than a punchers chance , Floyd is too good in all departments , he will be a lot stronger than Pac people dont realize how strong Floyd is , they have been blinded by a flashy style thinking its cowardice lol , Floyd is sitting down more these days and is showing more of what he has by doing so , Pac cant beat the running potshoting Floyd , and he cant beat the strong destructive break you down Floyd ,,,,, when Floyd schools him and makes it look easy I hope people realize what a truly great boxer he is .

14y ago

nor3

Everybody knows that styles make fights. So this wasnt a preview of a pac/may fight. And I think Ortiz just gave up mentally in rnd 3 and 4. **** he quit in the maidana fight! Ortiz made alot of mistakes in those 4 ends and Floyd capitalized on that. So now what? Is Floyd going to fight pac? Who knows......just man up Floyd and throw down mah nig!

14y ago

beanstalk

I dunno.. i was convinced floyd would outpoint pac. But after the ortiz fight, i really think pac would would give ffloyd fits bringing those weird stance and angles with that current reflexes of floyd. Pac just brings some factors different than everybody else including the other left handers, I guess we just have to wait until the pac-jmm3 fight. But right now i see it 50-50 or slightly in favor of Pac.

14y ago

sauld420

IMO, last night showed that Pac can and will connect on FMJ. It will be a battle of straight lefts v. lead rights. It's still a toss-up. What in the world showed you that? The 18% connect rate for ortiz?

14y ago

Joe2608

Last night told us nothing about how a May-Pac fight would go. The fight was a joke.

14y ago

elgaringo

14y ago

pgolf

IMO, last night showed that Pac can and will connect on FMJ. It will be a battle of straight lefts v. lead rights. It's still a toss-up.

14y ago

sauld420

No, the only guy with the ability to beat Mayweather is Sergio Martinez. Floyd's punches wouldn't have the same effect they have on the WW's Floyd has fought. Martinez isn't a stupid fighter. He's smart enough to adapt and fast enough to jab at Floyd. IF we ever saw this match up, Floyd would be a straight up counterpuncher. We would not see him trying to walk Martinez fight. But this will never happen anyway. Martinez hasnt fought at 147 in over ten years, and hasnt really beaten anyone of note other than Paul Williams(with a lucky shot i might add), Cintron(is he really of note anyway) and an overrated a$$ kelly pavilik. And hes a f*cking middleweight. That be like asking Martinez to go up two weight classes and fight Bernard Hopkins at light heavy.

14y ago

TheKza

One thing i know about that fight is. I will be a supporting Pacman as hard as any Fillipino. Classless Floyd.

14y ago

Ryannn

14y ago

joesaiditstrue

i see it as the opposite. floyd left himself open too much and got hit a few times by ortiz. he was also punching thin air which is something we dont see from floyd. pacman would totally capitalise on this and is quicker/stronger than any opponent floyds faced. one things for certain. this fight NEEDS to happen. floyd did leave himself open a lot, but when you say he got hit a "few" times, that's right.. in fact according to compubox, Ortiz landed ~6 punches per round over 4 rounds. was floyd open because he didn't respect Ortiz, or are you saying Floyd's defense all of the sudden started to be less effective? also, you mentioned Floyd missing, I noticed that as well but only in the first round, he cleaned it up in rounds 2-4, especially 4... he was dominant in 4.

14y ago

2501

Ive said this for a long time, the only guy with the ability to beat Floyd Mayweather is Paul Williams. Not the skills mind you, just the ability. Floyd will NEVER lose to a guy his size. Unless the guy he is fighting has a significant height, reach advantage AND similar skill level, Floyd will win because his mental game is so so strong. No, the only guy with the ability to beat Mayweather is Sergio Martinez. Floyd's punches wouldn't have the same effect they have on the WW's Floyd has fought. Martinez isn't a stupid fighter. He's smart enough to adapt and fast enough to jab at Floyd. IF we ever saw this match up, Floyd would be a straight up counterpuncher. We would not see him trying to walk Martinez fight. But this will never happen anyway.

14y ago

leppard365

14y ago

2501

Floyd's right hand would find Pacquiao every time he'd be in range. What we would see is the Pacquaio that was tentative against Marquez when Marquez was in rhythm.

14y ago

sauld420

14y ago

davidoff

Yes, sorry to clarify- he won't have success on the outside. And when he does get in on the inside, he will have no options over Floyd.

14y ago