1. In 2005 before Mayweather was in his radar, pacquaio in an interview admitted he was weakened after blood was taken a few days before the fight (when he was cutting weight) after the commission for some reason has reportedly "lost" his record, sounds fishy to me. (seach: 2005 pacquaio weakened 1st morales fight in youtube). Morales even said that pacquaio didnt hurt him in that fight. Be it an excuse for pacquaio but the mayweathers nonetheless will use this advantage to win.
2. To my knowledge, pacquaio is really just a simple person. When he says it, he means it. When he says "i can fight anyone, anytime, anywhere" or even in bare knuckles (just like when he was a kid) he means it. He's a warrior that really fights "anyone" regardless if they are more skilled than him (marquez..etc) or is bigger than him (odlh,marg,cotto etc). Its the people that surrounds him that complicates it (catch weights or selection of opponents with bigger draw is the promoter or trainers doings). "Im just doing my job", that is to train and fight in the ring. Hell I think he could even fight someone with peds/steroids in them, he's not ducking anyone in his weight range.
3. I suppose everyone knows the effects of steroids physiologically and psychologically, and pacquaio doesnt show any signs of roid-effect personality outbursts. Im not accusing mayweather jr but he does qualify of be using one. Have you even compared the body physique of pacquaio and mayweather? how jr is more ripped that pacman? Very suspicious to me. Yes pacman has a big head, and a big CALF too...and that is genetics. You may wonder why floyd is taking long vacations, and here's my theory, he is taking illegal substance himself and that he is not willing to subject to any mandatory tests if he is still active. I dont know if its illegal drugs (the same feather flaps together) or he is cycling steroids himself and avoiding getting caught. Its like farting in the crowd secretly and accusing someone just as when the stink reaches your nose.
4. Here's some points that I realized:
a. if pacman from a 3rd-world country indeed is taking peds/steroids and accomplishing feats never before seen in boxing, then why cant any fighter do thesame? especially fighters from the "red-white-and blue" where theres advance research of these products?
b. if pacman is taking a product from the philippines then why cant any other fighter from that country do thesame and follow his footsteps? Dominating the boxing world? (his brother bobby had 15 losses)
c. Someone said this in previous post "JR: if pacman take the test I win..if pacman dont take the test I lose" bad logic. Holyfield/Leonard said: be a man and just fight him already, you are the best and you will defeat him regardless if hes clean or not.
d. I wonder why everyone is brainwashed by the mayweathers considering their bad record, it doesnt make any sense. People should be skeptical and unbiased however, and dont let someone think for your (find logic in your own).
e. Does anyone consider that freaks of nature exists? (any sports) Just because someone is showing beyond normal performance doest mean its unnatural. They are rare...but they "exist".
(~grammar/english noob)
I know you thought long and hard about this thread, and you took so much time to type and format your thoughts, but you're really still a moron. You have no idea what you'really talking about and you don't have any credible perspective on the sport. Sorry to be so harsh but im so sick of this bullsh1t.
well, maybe those months of english lessons didn't help me organize my thoughts properly but knowledge is still different from wisdom.
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~"the proud will be humbled and the humble shall be exalted"
Uncle Bob needs to protect his investment. That's why Bradley signed with Top Rank, it's no coincidence. I'm expecting Pac-Bradley announcement soon. If that's not a blatant duck, I don't know what is.
you new to the boards? the whole NSB wanted pac to face bradley, if not mayweather.
We all know this. It's no secret. Mayweather got the idea of the drug testing all the way up to the fight from watching that vid of Pac on youtube. Anyone who claims Floyd wouldn't waste his time trying to get an edge that way, look what he's doing to offset the mentality of B level fighter Ortiz, inviting his father, ex-friend Rios and his trainer's estranged brother to walk out with him. The guy is about getting every advantage he can get.
yes someone that actually uses there brain. also floyd sr went to the media and started it after the hatton fight so he could use it as an excuse to why he lost the fight since he is such a great trainer and better then "the joke coach roach"
1. In 2005 before Mayweather was in his radar, pacquaio in an interview admitted he was weakened after blood was taken a few days before the fight (when he was cutting weight) after the commission for some reason has reportedly "lost" his record, sounds fishy to me. (seach: 2005 pacquaio weakened 1st morales fight in youtube). Morales even said that pacquaio didnt hurt him in that fight. Be it an excuse for pacquaio but the mayweathers nonetheless will use this advantage to win.
2. To my knowledge, pacquaio is really just a simple person. When he says it, he means it. When he says "i can fight anyone, anytime, anywhere" or even in bare knuckles (just like when he was a kid) he means it. He's a warrior that really fights "anyone" regardless if they are more skilled than him (marquez..etc) or is bigger than him (odlh,marg,cotto etc). Its the people that surrounds him that complicates it (catch weights or selection of opponents with bigger draw is the promoter or trainers doings). "Im just doing my job", that is to train and fight in the ring. Hell I think he could even fight someone with peds/steroids in them, he's not ducking anyone in his weight range.
3. I suppose everyone knows the effects of steroids physiologically and psychologically, and pacquaio doesnt show any signs of roid-effect personality outbursts. Im not accusing mayweather jr but he does qualify of be using one. Have you even compared the body physique of pacquaio and mayweather? how jr is more ripped that pacman? Very suspicious to me. Yes pacman has a big head, and a big CALF too...and that is genetics. You may wonder why floyd is taking long vacations, and here's my theory, he is taking illegal substance himself and that he is not willing to subject to any mandatory tests if he is still active. I dont know if its illegal drugs (the same feather flaps together) or he is cycling steroids himself and avoiding getting caught. Its like farting in the crowd secretly and accusing someone just as when the stink reaches your nose.
4. Here's some points that I realized:
a. if pacman from a 3rd-world country indeed is taking peds/steroids and accomplishing feats never before seen in boxing, then why cant any fighter do thesame? especially fighters from the "red-white-and blue" where theres advance research of these products?
b. if pacman is taking a product from the philippines then why cant any other fighter from that country do thesame and follow his footsteps? Dominating the boxing world? (his brother bobby had 15 losses)
c. Someone said this in previous post "JR: if pacman take the test I win..if pacman dont take the test I lose" bad logic. Holyfield/Leonard said: be a man and just fight him already, you are the best and you will defeat him regardless if hes clean or not.
d. I wonder why everyone is brainwashed by the mayweathers considering their bad record, it doesnt make any sense. People should be skeptical and unbiased however, and dont let someone think for your (find logic in your own).
e. Does anyone consider that freaks of nature exists? (any sports) Just because someone is showing beyond normal performance doest mean its unnatural. They are rare...but they "exist".
(~grammar/english noob)
I know you thought long and hard about this thread, and you took so much time to type and format your thoughts, but you're really still a moron. You have no idea what you'really talking about and you don't have any credible perspective on the sport. Sorry to be so harsh but im so sick of this bullsh1t.
We all know this. It's no secret. Mayweather got the idea of the drug testing all the way up to the fight from watching that vid of Pac on youtube. Anyone who claims Floyd wouldn't waste his time trying to get an edge that way, look what he's doing to offset the mentality of B level fighter Ortiz, inviting his father, ex-friend Rios and his trainer's estranged brother to walk out with him. The guy is about getting every advantage he can get.
pac has had every excuse under the sun for his subpar performances. It doesn't mean they are true.
Hes a poor loser (not saying thats a bad thing, i am too), thats all.
Uncle Bob needs to protect his investment. That's why Bradley signed with Top Rank, it's no coincidence. I'm expecting Pac-Bradley announcement soon. If that's not a blatant duck, I don't know what is.
I think Manny is willing to take the fight, I think if he beats Marquez and Mayweather beats Ortiz then we may be looking at this fight at the end of the year. Mayweather is the problem in this whole thing, he has made the drug testing excuse now thats not a problem. Then he says he doesn't want to deal with Arum again, which is more of a problem I think. If there is enough money on the table for Mayweather to go and buy a 1000 pairs of cool shoes and a few more Bentleys with then he'll take it. One last pay-day and then his career will either end on a win, or a loss, a rematch or a fight with Khan which he will probably win.
Pacquaio said that its not an issue anymore, he "agreed" to mayweathers demand. Can anyone just move-on already about this "take the test" drama? The ball is in mayweathers court, not in pacquaio so stop all these cr**s.
“I’m not opposed to the drug tests just as long as it’s not on the day of the fight. It’s not good (to have the tests on) the day of the fight because they have medical procedures right after the fight.
And because it will be a disadvantage for me because he’s big and I’m small. And I may not be able to recover (from the tests).”
The story was mayweather demanded a random blood testing with 14-day cutoff, team pacquaio rejected at first saying its an obscure demand. Then team pacquaio later agreed and compromised for sake of the fight. Guess what? mayweather backed off, surprised that pacman called the bluff, he goes for the all-in. Pacman unsure of his cards and sensing that a repeat of situation in his last loss will happen again kept his cards. And then accusations has been thrown that he's cheating from his wins. Pacman compromised a 7-day cutoff date...mayweather jr. agreed, his "father" didnt and persuade him to a full random blood test. A 2-day cutoff...mayweathers say NO. And then pacman agreed so the fight will happen already but not on the "day of the fight". But still the mayweather didnt budge..didnt agree. Now what does that tell you? Oh wait a new demand is made, pacquaio is not allowed to train in his home country where he also do his duty as a congressman. lol
A 7-day cutoff is actually good enough since there's no way that you can cycle steroids or peds in a week and get good results, the mayweather know this themselves. But ducking at all cost is a different story. Take the test? lol...I think its more appropriate to say "sign the dotted line floyd and take the fight".
And one more thing, I think USADA has some connections to mayweather and Im afraid manipulation of testing procedures/results/records is not impossible, as they insist of USADA only. I hope Im wrong.