All roads lead to joe calzaghe being the G.O.A.T
Calzaghe is better than Robert Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Haggler and Tommy Hearns because:
Duran lost to Hearns
who lost to Haggler
who lost to Leonard
who lost to Terry Norris
who lost to Laurent Boudouani
who lost to Felix Trinadad
who lost to Roy Jones Jr
who lost to JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better than Joe Louis AND Muhammed Ali because:
Joe Louis lost to Ezzard Charles
who lost to Alvin Green
who lost to Kirk Barrow
who lost to Karl Mildenberger
who lost to Henry Cooper
who lost to Muhammad Ali
who lost to Tevor Berbick
who lost to Tony LaRosa
who lost to Billy Zumbrun
who lost to Mike Mollo
who lost to Jammel McCline
who was beaten by Chris Arreola
who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
who was beaten by Chad Dawson
who was beaten by Jean Pascal
who lost to Bernard Hopkins
who lost to JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better then Henry Armstrong because:
Armstrong was beaten by Chester Slider
who was beaten by Sammy Walker
who was beaten by Alfredo Beezer
who was beaten by Jose Edwin
who was beaten by Ossie Marcano
who was beaten by Frankie Olivera
who was beaten by Bobby Cassidy
who was beaten by Ramon Ranquello
who was beaten by Arturo Diaz
who was beaten by Vyacheslav Yakovlev
who was beaten by Lionel Butler
who was beaten by Daiman Wills
who was beaten by Oliver McCall
who was beaten by Cedric Boswell
who was beaten by Jammel McCline
who was beaten by Chris Arreola
who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
who was beaten by Chad Dawson
who was beaten by Jean Pascal
who was beaten by Carl Froch
who was beaten by Mikkel Kessler
who was beaten by JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better then Sugar Ray Robinson because:
Robinson was beaten by Joey Archer
...who was beaten by Emile Griffith
...who was beaten by Alan Minter
...who was beaten by Tony Sibson
...who was beaten by Frank Tate
...who was beaten by David Telesco
....who was beaten by Byron Mitchell
who was beaten by...JOE CALZAGHE
WHO BEAT JOE CALZAGHE?..........THAT WHY CALZAGHE IS THE G.O.A.T
to be fair it's a tie between calzaghe and ottke but you are a biased calzaghe fan boy.
All roads lead to joe calzaghe being the G.O.A.T
Calzaghe is better than Robert Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Haggler and Tommy Hearns because:
Duran lost to Hearns
who lost to Haggler
who lost to Leonard
who lost to Terry Norris
who lost to Laurent Boudouani
who lost to Felix Trinadad
who lost to Roy Jones Jr
who lost to JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better than Joe Louis AND Muhammed Ali because:
Joe Louis lost to Ezzard Charles
who lost to Alvin Green
who lost to Kirk Barrow
who lost to Karl Mildenberger
who lost to Henry Cooper
who lost to Muhammad Ali
who lost to Tevor Berbick
who lost to Tony LaRosa
who lost to Billy Zumbrun
who lost to Mike Mollo
who lost to Jammel McCline
who was beaten by Chris Arreola
who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
who was beaten by Chad Dawson
who was beaten by Jean Pascal
who lost to Bernard Hopkins
who lost to JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better then Henry Armstrong because:
Armstrong was beaten by Chester Slider
who was beaten by Sammy Walker
who was beaten by Alfredo Beezer
who was beaten by Jose Edwin
who was beaten by Ossie Marcano
who was beaten by Frankie Olivera
who was beaten by Bobby Cassidy
who was beaten by Ramon Ranquello
who was beaten by Arturo Diaz
who was beaten by Vyacheslav Yakovlev
who was beaten by Lionel Butler
who was beaten by Daiman Wills
who was beaten by Oliver McCall
who was beaten by Cedric Boswell
who was beaten by Jammel McCline
who was beaten by Chris Arreola
who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
who was beaten by Chad Dawson
who was beaten by Jean Pascal
who was beaten by Carl Froch
who was beaten by Mikkel Kessler
who was beaten by JOE CALZAGHE
Calzaghe is better then Sugar Ray Robinson because:
Robinson was beaten by Joey Archer
...who was beaten by Emile Griffith
...who was beaten by Alan Minter
...who was beaten by Tony Sibson
...who was beaten by Frank Tate
...who was beaten by David Telesco
....who was beaten by Byron Mitchell
who was beaten by...JOE CALZAGHE
WHO BEAT JOE CALZAGHE?..........THAT WHY CALZAGHE IS THE G.O.A.T
Joe was a damn good boxer but even in UK terms I'd rate Benn and Eubank higher at his weight. If he fought Hopkins or Roy Jones at their peak the results would have been very different. Undefeated record still needs to be respected though.
no doubt. respect to sven ottke!
Joe was a damn good boxer but even in UK terms I'd rate Benn and Eubank higher at his weight. If he fought Hopkins or Roy Jones at their peak the results would have been very different. Undefeated record still needs to be respected though.
Yes being white from the uk probably did knock him down a few places. The klitschko' are having the same problem now,if they where african american they would be high on the atg list
when all else fails and all your points are bogus call everyone racist!
Calzaghe top 20 ATG?
SMH and sadly too!
He was a good fighter who could do a bit of everything but cmon man, are you serious? Top 20? You gotta be fukking kidding me. I honestly think that any boxing historian who isnt from the UK would laugh at you out loud and probably point at you too while laughing.
Calzaghe being in the top 20 is as ridiculous as other idiots trying to convince me that Floyd and Pac are better than Sugar Ray Robinson.
Yes being white from the uk probably did knock him down a few places. The klitschko' are having the same problem now,if they where african american they would be high on the atg list
The thing is ottke lost on more than one occssion only to be gifted outrageous decisiond.calzaghe beat everyman he fought legitimately and beat better opposition
calzaghe was gifted tons of outrageous stoppages and was gifted against reid and hopkins so it's pretty equal. both guys were illegitimate. it's fitting they both ended their careers with 21 title defenses. equal all the way.
Top 3 SMW of all time.
Top 100 ATG. Not top 20, his record isnt good enough to be top 20. I've always said though - it wasn't Joe's fault, he could only beat who was put in front of him, traditionally has never really been that strong, until recently that is.
yeah but they kept putting bums in front of him on purpose to protect him. "i don't want tough fights. i just fight for money." actual joe calzaghe quote. the guy wanted no part of any good fighters until he took a couple calculated risks at the end of his career.
his own promoter said calzaghe only wanted easy fights. joe said jones was too good for him. he pretended like hopkins was ducking him but in court testimony warren said the fight was going to take place in wales and calzaghe would make more than hopkins. obviously not a realistic deal. he ducked pavlik and dawson to fight shot jones jr. he even ducked glen johnson 3 times.
Calzaghe top 20 ATG?
SMH and sadly too!
He was a good fighter who could do a bit of everything but cmon man, are you serious? Top 20? You gotta be fukking kidding me. I honestly think that any boxing historian who isnt from the UK would laugh at you out loud and probably point at you too while laughing.
Calzaghe being in the top 20 is as ridiculous as other idiots trying to convince me that Floyd and Pac are better than Sugar Ray Robinson.
I'm not questioning Joe Louis' credentials, in fact i have him at #4 on my all time heavyweight list, but the vast majority of the guys he fought, whether they were top 10, top 3, or whatever, had multiple losses, several with as many as 30 or more losses. Only the very top guys had 5-6 losses or so. Like Ezzard Charles for example.
Wow, Louis as low as #4? Thats shocking. Almost everyone puts him at #1 or 2. Who do you have above him?
and having a 'pretty' looking record doesnt make you a good fighter. Someone like Freddie Pendleton for example with his 26 losses was still way better than someone like Deontay Wilder, whos 18-0 with 18 KOs.
multiweight world champ.undefeated ameteur or pro.defeated 2 fighters who will be in the top 50 atg. Of course he is
He is lower then 60 greater then 100 I think.
And that's nothing bad, it be in the top 100 or even 200 boxers ever?
That's great.
think about how many boxers there have been, **** top 300 is not too shabby
If eny1 had been a hardcoreboxing fan for 100 years then calzaghe wouldnt make top 200 but as we have hardly seen most of the best eras in boxing and from the fighters we have seen he is top 50 but i know he shouldnt be no where near as close as he is but from what i have seen as fighters top 50.Us as boxing fans should never try ranking atg ourselves as we havnt even lived in the eras of the greats if we had we would have been able to have seen all the good,great and legend fighters from every era and then make our own top 100 atg list.
Calzaghe has gota be an atg, the guy is so under rated, got be in the top 50 even if you dont like him.
not even close
calzaghe is top 200 along with sven ottke
The thing is ottke lost on more than one occssion only to be gifted outrageous decisiond.calzaghe beat everyman he fought legitimately and beat better opposition