How is pacquaio a 8 division champion?????????????

That's not true. All true historians label him as the first triple crown winner. Like Monte Cox http://coxscorner.tripod.com/fitz.html Then you have other sources that label him the same way. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/fitz.htm http://www.fitzsimmons.co.nz/main.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fitzsimmons http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/fitzsimmons.html yeah , ive seen that, but really dont know since ive heard it afew times that there were only 3, 3 div champions from the past.....but i guess they were wrong....

everybody including larrry meachnt... That's not true. All true historians label him as the first triple crown winner. Like Monte Cox http://coxscorner.tripod.com/fitz.html Then you have other sources that label him the same way. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/fitz.htm http://www.fitzsimmons.co.nz/main.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fitzsimmons http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/fitzsimmons.html

Maybe because bogus weight classes and no real champions in the divisions cheapens so-called accomplishments. When Manny holds the unified titles in three LEGITIMATE weight classes simultaneously give me a call. Otherwise he's just a belt-holder in three real divisions and five phony ones. Poet you can easily do that to any elite fighter present or in the past. If that's what floats your boat...cool, I have no issue with that. But it seems boxing is the only sport where there are constant excuses to belittle an athletes accomplishment and this seems like a current trend. FWIW it's impossilbe for Manny to do that because if you hold titles in two weight classes, the sanctioning bodies force you to give one of them up......let alone a guy trying to hold 3 at the same time.

Who are the "experts" in question? I've certainly never seen anything by, say, Nat Fleischer acknowledge Fitzsimmons as anything other then a three division champ. Poet everybody including larrry meachnt... Canzoneri's first defense was a unification of sorts: He faced world Jr. welterweight champion Jack Kid Berg, who was putting his Jr. Welterweight title on the line and trying to take Canzoneri's Lightweight title away. Canzoneri became a three division world champion by knocking Berg out in the third round in their fight held on April 24, 1931. Canzoneri, Barney Ross and Henry Armstrong were the only boxing champions in history

im just talking about the possibilties....why are they (boxing experts) not recoginzing fitzsimmons as one of the 3 div champions from the old days ?..there's got to be a reason.... But, Fitzsimmons is recognized as a 3 division champ. But, I don't know why Larry Merchant/HBO didn't mention him. It might have been an accidental omission?

I don't get why people try to take away from the fact that Manny is an 8th divisional champion...but whatever. This is why boxing has the worse fans because they go out of there way to discredit our best athletes.

:rolleyes9: :rolleyes9: :rolleyes9: :rolleyes9: im just talking about the possibilties....why are they (boxing experts) not recoginzing fitzsimmons as one of the 3 div champions from the old days ?..there's got to be a reason....

Not sure. I know Canzoneri won the SFW, LW and JWW, while Ross won the LW, JWW, and WW titles if I'm not mistaken. Fitzsimmons won the MW title then won the HW title then went down to win the LHW title. Amrstorng won the FW, LW, and WW title. Came damn close and maybe deserved to win the MW title. I'm pretty sure that's accurate. But, maybe I'm wrong :dunno: I'm going to have to check now. could it be becuase in fitzsimmons time, the weightclasses were all fukked up that it's unbearable to legitmatize all the titles?....

yeah ,i got that impression but he said 3 div champion tho instaed of 2 if that was the case.... anyway forget that one question: there were only 3 div champions from the old days being; ( ive seen larry meachnt toucehd on the subject) henry armstrong barney ross toney canzoneri.. why are they not recognzing fitzsimons as one?.... Not sure. I know Canzoneri won the SFW, LW and JWW, while Ross won the LW, JWW, and WW titles if I'm not mistaken. Fitzsimmons won the MW title then won the HW title then went down to win the LHW title. Amrstorng won the FW, LW, and WW title. Came damn close and maybe deserved to win the MW title. I'm pretty sure that's accurate. But, maybe I'm wrong :dunno: I'm going to have to check now.

Either he doesn't count Cotto cuz' of the catch-weight or Diaz cuz' he sucked mixed in with the paper title. yeah ,i got that impression but he said 3 div champion tho instaed of 2 if that was the case.... anyway forget that one question: there were only 3 div champions from the old days being; ( ive seen larry meachnt toucehd on the subject) henry armstrong barney ross toney canzoneri.. why are they not recognzing fitzsimons as one?....

Yea, he would have joined Fitzsimmons and Armstrong as the only guys to ever win the World title in the 3 of original 8 weight-classes. But, he didn't...And, it's not like he didn't have the opportunity. So yea...Not sure why that was brought up. it was brought up coz pac failing to having joined armstrong was only due to him not being able to get to shane first....that's why it was brought up..any way , he di'nt ..

pac is a 4 div champion out of the original 8 homie... Either he doesn't count Cotto cuz' of the catch-weight or Diaz cuz' he sucked mixed in with the paper title.

yeah but imagine if pac had gotten to shane before floyd...he would've joined armstrong as the only lineal 3 div champion out of the original 8....and pac would still have something that armstrong never had, the sfw title.... Yea, he would have joined Fitzsimmons and Armstrong as the only guys to ever win the World title in the 3 of original 8 weight-classes. But, he didn't...And, it's not like he didn't have the opportunity. So yea...Not sure why that was brought up.

He isn't. He's a THREE division champ. There are only eight legitimate divisions and I haven't seen Pacman win belts at Batam, Feather, Middle, Light-Heavy, and Heavy yet. Poet pac is a 4 div champion out of the original 8 homie...

Kind of how Leonard picked up his super middelweight belt, beating light heavy Lalonde for a vacant belt. He also picked up Lalonde's light heavyweight belt on the same night, both fighting under the super middleweight limit. Work that one out. Hence why I don't give him credit for that crap either. So we an agreement it seems.

Yea but 2 of them were paper titles though. yeah but imagine if pac had gotten to shane before floyd...he would've joined armstrong as the only lineal 3 div champion out of the original 8....and pac would still have something that armstrong never had, the sfw title....

But, Margarito was unranked and more than likely done. So really and it was at a catch-weight where neither were rank FFS's man. Really? WTF? Kind of how Leonard picked up his super middelweight belt, beating light heavy Lalonde for a vacant belt. He also picked up Lalonde's light heavyweight belt on the same night, both fighting under the super middleweight limit. Work that one out.

i give him credit for the margarita fight !!!! why ???!!!! welll because margarita wayed in at over 160 pounds !!!! and manny beat him to a pulp despite the seveare weight disparity !!!!!:boxing: the facyt that he weighs that much on the night of the fight reflects how drained marg couod have been and im a pac fan

i give him credit for the margarita fight !!!! why ???!!!! welll because margarita wayed in at over 160 pounds !!!! and manny beat him to a pulp despite the seveare weight disparity !!!!!:boxing: But, Margarito was unranked and more than likely done. So really and it was at a catch-weight where neither were rank FFS's man. Really? WTF?

um he got belts in eight divisions? some are paper but TS is dumb