"All four heavyweight title belts belong to fighters born and raised in former Soviet Republics. So if the HW division is dying in America, it is alive and well in Eastern Europe."
One of my favorite Klitschko vs American fights.
Wladimir Klitschko vs undefeated Calvin Brock at Madison Square Garden.
The Ukrainians and Russians were chanting "Klitschko, Klitschko, Klitschko, Klitschko"
And the xenophobic Americans were chanting "USA, USA, USA, USA" until Brock got brutally KTFO by a steelhammer right hand from Wlad.
One of my favorite Eastern European vs American fights.
Wladimir Klitschko vs undefeated Calvin Brock at Madison Square Garden.
The Ukrainians and Russians were chanting "Klitschko, Klitschko, Klitschko, Klitschko"
And the xenophobic Americans were chanting "USA, USA, USA, USA" until Brock got brutally KTFO by a steelhammer right hand from Wlad.
If the new and improved Wladimir Klitschko was dropped numerous times by Sam Peter's clubbing blows
That wasn't the "new and improved" Wlad.
Wlad destroyed Peter in the rematch. He has improved significantly since the first fight.
If the new and improved Wladimir Klitschko was dropped numerous times by Sam Peter's clubbing blows
Undefeated Prime 2005 Peter was a monster, built like a tank, granite chin, one punch KO power in both hands. The boxing experts said he was the "heir apparent", "next big thing", "one of the hardest punchers of all time", etc.
There was only one legit knockdown in the fight. The other two were from illegal rabbit punches behind the head. Wlad showed a big heart, overcame adversity and proved he has a good chin.
Wlad dominated 10 of the 12 rounds.
The iron chinned Peter was badly hurt by a beautiful left hook from Wlad in the 12th round, he was out on his feet and saved by the bell. Great fight.
Americans had their time to shine, but that time has passed.
From Lennox to Vitali to Wladimir- the true heavyweight champs have not been American. Who knows who will take the reins next, but one thing is certain, it won't be Chris Arreola.
"big" george foreman would be a cruiserweight today.
David Haye is bigger than a prime Foreman.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2NH8rDA6b08/ThJrjcjiJuI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/FRV8DfV6rWs/s1600/david-haye.jpg
Haye never won a Gold Medal at Heavyweight.
Foreman also had 81 fights at Heavyweight. Haye had 6, and he lost 1 of those.
If Foreman was a bloated cruiserweight, he wouldn't have been anywhere near as successful as he was in the second half of his career.
:lol1: I find ''Domination'' one of the funnier posters on this site. No one makes me laugh like him :lol1:
His hate for USA Boxers and his love for Soviet Union boxers is hilarious. It's so over the top its actualy funny.
How can you hate on him? To funny. :lol1:
you're an idiot. You're just some crazy euro who thinks all of your fighters would dominate. I'm a fan of wlad, but fans like you almost make me want him to lose. This may be the worst era for the hw division. Not knocking the klitschkos, but they are definitely not the best of all time. Prime lewis takes them both to be honest, and he's not even the best ever. Get a clue. You're just some radical fan who can't process a rational boxing thought. Europeans are not dominating boxing by the way.
please do not think this klitscko lover represents european opinion. Most european fans hate the k's and its only the german and soviet fans that love them
**** the k's, theyve acheived a **** load but they stand no chance against anyone with a pulse or ten working toes
So they dominate HW. Nice. So?
You know who you should be worried about? Cubans. Once there able to leave I'm sure they'll easily dominate any division. Includng HW. Their amatuers are a level over Euros, just imo.
Eastern Europeans are dominating the amatuers. Go look up the statistics. Do research before you post bullshit.
Vitali already beat the two best Cuban heavyweights of all time Juan Carlos Gomez and Odlanier Solis.
Tishchenko beat Gamboa twice.
Chagaev beat Savon twice.
Lomachenko is the #1 p4p best amatuer fighter in the world. Future p4p king in the pros.
http://im.rediff.com/sports/2008/aug/23loma.jpg
So they dominate HW. Nice. So?
You know who you should be worried about? Cubans. Once there able to leave I'm sure they'll easily dominate any division. Includng HW. Their amatuers are a level over Euros, just imo.
Eastern Europeans are dominating the amatuers. Go look up the statistics. Do research before you post bullshit.
Vitali already beat the two best Cuban heavyweights of all time Juan Carlos Gomez and Odlanier Solis.
Vasyl Lomachenko is the #1 p4p best amatuer fighter in the world. Future p4p king in the pros.
http://im.rediff.com/sports/2008/aug/23loma.jpg
So they dominate HW. Nice. So?
You know who you should be worried about? Cubans. Once there able to leave I'm sure they'll easily dominate any division. Includng HW. Their amatuers are a level over Euros, just imo.
I'm sure this is a gag thread, but I'll take the bait.
Of course, none of this can be proven as Vitali and Wladimir have had little in the way of great competition to prove themselves against, and had sustained losses in this weaker heavyweight era.
If the new and improved Wladimir Klitschko was dropped numerous times by Sam Peter's clubbing blows, George Foreman would walk right in that front door.
Both are great talents, no question, and I'll likely give them a vote in the Hall of Fame because of the class they've conducted themselves with in and out of the ring.
Vitali destroyed Sanders.
Current Wlad beats any version of Sanders.
Wlad was poisoned in the first Brewster fight.
In the rematch, Wlad dominated every round and made Brewster quit TKO6
Yet he never re matched him :bsflag:
Statistically, Wlad and Vitali are the two most dominant fighters of all time.
Top 3 Best Heavyweights of all time
1. Klitschko
2. Klitschko
3. Lewis
Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.
You're an idiot. You're just some crazy Euro who thinks all of your fighters would dominate. I'm a fan of Wlad, but fans like you almost make me want him to lose. This may be the worst era for the HW division. Not knocking the Klitschkos, but they are definitely not the best of all time. Prime Lewis takes them both to be honest, and he's not even the best ever. Get a clue. You're just some radical fan who can't process a rational boxing thought. Europeans are not dominating boxing by the way.
Either Klitschko dominates Ali and Foreman.
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2346/klitschkoali.jpg
You are delusional, 15 round fights they would gas out. They wouldn't even get by Chuvalo
Respect your opinion here. But when you consider that Wlad lost to guys like Corrie Sanders and Brewster, how can that statement be true?
I know that was a while back, but think about fighters like Foreman and Ali who were a good size and skilled. You don't even give guys like that a chance?
Either Klitschko dominates Ali and Foreman.
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2346/klitschkoali.jpg
Respect your opinion here. But when you consider that Wlad lost to guys like Corrie Sanders and Brewster, how can that statement be true?
I know that was a while back, but think about fighters like Foreman and Ali who were a good size and skilled. You don't even give guys like that a chance?
Vitali destroyed Sanders.
Current Wlad beats any version of Sanders.
Wlad was poisoned in the first Brewster fight.
In the rematch, Wlad dominated every round and made Brewster quit TKO6