Robert Garcia just talks too much

I agree with the TS, Robert Garcia does talk a lot of ish. I think he's solely to blame for the Garcia brothers feud, he's pretty bitter that Ortiz left his camp and joined up with his bro. Instead of being happy he lashed out at Victor, I know there's more to the story but I see Robert as the problem. Seems like a "you're either with me or against me" type of person. jroasles is in full hater mode today, wouldn't pay to much attention to dude right now lol. Anybody still dissing Ortiz over the Maidana incident is just a flat out hater, dude already redeemed himself but it's still not enough for people. SMH Well stating a fact it's hating, then yes I'm a hater.

I agree with the TS, Robert Garcia does talk a lot of ish. I think he's solely to blame for the Garcia brothers feud, he's pretty bitter that Ortiz left his camp and joined up with his bro. Instead of being happy he lashed out at Victor, I know there's more to the story but I see Robert as the problem. Seems like a "you're either with me or against me" type of person. jroasles is in full hater mode today, wouldn't pay to much attention to dude right now lol. Anybody still dissing Ortiz over the Maidana incident is just a flat out hater, dude already redeemed himself but it's still not enough for people. SMH

ok Vitaly isnt a great fighter hes still not busting ass at 42 years old ok you win..its not his fault HW division sucks right now..hes taking care of bizness and getting those guys outta there...ok ok i really see im taking to someone who knows nothing in life and in boxing Wlad is also in the same sucky division. But, I consider Wlad a first ballot HOF'er arguably top 15 ATG HW when it's all said and done. But, Vitaly? Nah...

I don't consider Vitaly a great fighter. Do you? Why? And, Vitaly is definitely not a HOF'er. But, even then they're 2 different situations no? But, again you're going by paper not by the actual fight. ok Vitaly isnt a great fighter hes still not busting ass at 42 years old ok you win..its not his fault HW division sucks right now..hes taking care of bizness and getting those guys outta there...ok ok i really see im taking to someone who knows nothing in life and in boxing

your not answering my question about power so let me ask you this is Vatali Klit a great fighter?bceause last time i checked he quit in alot of ppl eyes against byrd when he was up on scorecards but redeemed the critics with showing huge nuts with that cut against lewis..so just because in alot of ppl eyes he quit hes not going to be a hall of famer get the fuc outta here..you make no sense I don't consider Vitaly a great fighter. Do you? Why? And, Vitaly is definitely not a HOF'er. But, even then they're 2 different situations no? But, again you're going by paper not by the actual fight.

Oh OK, Berto is a KO artist sorry. your not answering my question about power so let me ask you this is Vatali Klit a great fighter?bceause last time i checked he quit in alot of ppl eyes against byrd when he was up on scorecards but redeemed the critics with showing huge nuts with that cut against lewis..so just because in alot of ppl eyes he quit hes not going to be a hall of famer get the fuc outta here..you make no sense

LOL, Berto doesn't have one punch KO power. Who the **** are you? Freddy Hernandez corner man? ALL professional boxers have 1 punch KO power. It depends on who they fight, it depends on how they land. Im sure if Berto just barely clipped your punk ass you wouldn't be getting up anytime soon. Oh OK, Berto is a KO artist sorry.

how is it more about style?...you know nothing about this man...never seen him fight..but you have both mens record in front of you doesnt one man how more power then the next in your opionion?35wins 7kos...33 wins 30 kos ...we are not talking about style here we are talking on paper..answer the simple question ..we can talk style in another thread we talking power I'm sorry thought when you said you are going to prepare yourself for a boxer not a boxer puncher am i correct? It was referring to styles. What was I thinking? :dunno: But, how can I come up with a game plan if I don't know what styles they have? For example Juan Diaz is not a KO puncher and I guess his "ratio" shows it. But, he was a come forward fighter who tries to overwhelm you. But, I guess on paper I should prepare for a boxer? What sense does that make? And, I would have to know who the 30 KO's were against no? Because, that could be deceiving right? I mean if those 30 fighters were bums with glass chins then does that man really have true power or just overrated power?

Some people will just be haters. Unfortunately, that's a part of the life we live. Heck, they still talk bad about Jesus, so imagine what they're gonna say about fighters in hindsight. man leave Soto-Karass out of this he gave his all against Jones!!

At the end of the day did he quit because he didn't deserve to be taking punishment like that? He's in the hurt business mind you? LOL @ the right hand from Berto would have sent a lot of people to sleep...Yea because Berto is known as a KO artist. Because, he has legit one punch KO power. At the end of the day. Do you actually see the fights? Or do you go by what's on paper? I didn't know stating the fact that Ortiz quit is hating. So now saying facts=hate. Good stuff :fing02: LOL, Berto doesn't have one punch KO power. Who the **** are you? Freddy Hernandez corner man? ALL professional boxers have 1 punch KO power. It depends on who they fight, it depends on how they land. Im sure if Berto just barely clipped your punk ass you wouldn't be getting up anytime soon.

That's a more of a question about style than actual power no? how is it more about style?...you know nothing about this man...never seen him fight..but you have both mens record in front of you doesnt one man how more power then the next in your opionion?35wins 7kos...33 wins 30 kos ...we are not talking about style here we are talking on paper..answer the simple question ..we can talk style in another thread we talking power

if you have a fight comming up and theres no tv like back in the day and the guy your fighting has 7 ko out of 35 fights does he have power? you are going to prepare yourself for a boxer not a boxer puncher am i correct? now next fight you take the guy is 33-0 with 30kos are you going into it with a different gameplan because you seen on paper? just answer me that That's a more of a question about style than actual power no?

If being a quitter is smart than that mofo is a genius. :fest30: and ppl quit all the time in life im pretty sure you quit something but you dont see ya moms/pops/girl/friend whoever say ova and ova you quit ...you gather your thoughts and get back to the drawing board and see what you can come up with.. and the kid did just that..and NEWWWWW WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION

No it's does not. Because, you're not taking into account who was KO'd, you not taking into account into the manner they were KO'd either. Vitaly has a great chin. Byrd doesn't have power. On paper Byrd KO'd Vitaly. See why you don't go by paper or ratio. Because, you need to know who and by what manner. Something that you don't do obviously. If being a quitter is smart than that mofo is a genius. :fest30: if you have a fight comming up and theres no tv like back in the day and the guy your fighting has 7 ko out of 35 fights does he have power? you are going to prepare yourself for a boxer not a boxer puncher am i correct? now next fight you take the guy is 33-0 with 30kos are you going into it with a different gameplan because you seen on paper? just answer me that

what are you talking about last time i checked ratio does account for ko pwer dumbby ..the reason we know paulie mal doesnt have ko power is because he has like 7ko's on his resume doesnt that tell you that this man most likely wont knock you out?and berto showed that he stops ppl doesnt matter weather its one punch or not..ko is a ko and that shot was perfect..u get hit wit that right and tell me berto doesnt have ko power..and yes hes in the hurt bizness but we also need to be smart in life ...and not only was he smart he redeemed himself and shut the critics up..if he didnt do that he wouldnt have the title and a million dollar payday No it's does not. Because, you're not taking into account who was KO'd, you not taking into account into the manner they were KO'd either. Vitaly has a great chin. Byrd doesn't have power. On paper Byrd KO'd Vitaly. See why you don't go by paper or ratio. Because, you need to know who and by what manner. Something that you don't do obviously. If being a quitter is smart than that mofo is a genius. :fest30:

Robert garcia seems like a nice nough guy.. as far as ortiz quiting, it's the past, he was young(still is), and he was taking hard shots from a HARD puncher. He erased all of that with the berto win. He got Knocked down, got up and KD berto. It wasn't an easy win, he was tested and he passed. Ppl will still down talk him, because he's a young prospect... and hes getting a shot at mayweather. Boxing fans(esp. NSB) are Fggots...they will critique every fighter as if they know all. When in reality they know nothing. canelo gets hated on, Pwill was loved.. but when he got Koed everyone "knew" he was a bum.

Are you related to Ortiz or do you just stay on your knees for Ortiz with a mouthful? KO ratio does not equate KO power alone. You have to take other stuff into account. Which is something that you're not doing. Martinez has more KO power than Berto has. I'm talking like someone who follows boxing. Obviously the same can't be said about you. what are you talking about last time i checked ratio does account for ko pwer dumbby ..the reason we know paulie mal doesnt have ko power is because he has like 7ko's on his resume doesnt that tell you that this man most likely wont knock you out?and berto showed that he stops ppl doesnt matter weather its one punch or not..ko is a ko and that shot was perfect..u get hit wit that right and tell me berto doesnt have ko power..and yes hes in the hurt bizness but we also need to be smart in life ...and not only was he smart he redeemed himself and shut the critics up..if he didnt do that he wouldnt have the title and a million dollar payday

i tell you bro..you must be related to Robert Garcia someway somehow...with all the hate...does berto have ko power of course he does look at the ratio he has...now u want to talk one punch power ..that shot was perfect landed flush with speed and victor didnt even see comming...does sergio martinez has one punch power..i say no but he caught paul williams with an great shot..do you watch boxing..u are talking like you do this for a living man..u dont or else we would be reading about u....enuff said Are you related to Ortiz or do you just stay on your knees for Ortiz with a mouthful? KO ratio does not equate KO power alone. You have to take other stuff into account. Which is something that you're not doing. Martinez has more KO power than Berto has. I'm talking like someone who follows boxing. Obviously the same can't be said about you.

i tell you bro..you must be related to Robert Garcia someway somehow...with all the hate...does berto have ko power of course he does look at the ratio he has...now u want to talk one punch power ..that shot was perfect landed flush with speed and victor didnt even see comming...does sergio martinez has one punch power..i say no but he caught paul williams with an great shot..do you watch boxing..u are talking like you do this for a living man..u dont or else we would be reading about u....enuff said

def not nuthugging just giving the man his props...did he quit yes ...is it a tko at the end of the day yes..did he pick himself off the floor twice in that fight yes(showed he got balls... that right hand from berto woulda sent alot of ppl sleeping)..did he give us what we wanted to see in those fights yes..did he win a title yes..is he fighting one of the best yes..stop hating the man is doing his thing At the end of the day did he quit because he didn't deserve to be taking punishment like that? He's in the hurt business mind you? LOL @ the right hand from Berto would have sent a lot of people to sleep...Yea because Berto is known as a KO artist. Because, he has legit one punch KO power. At the end of the day. Do you actually see the fights? Or do you go by what's on paper? I didn't know stating the fact that Ortiz quit is hating. So now saying facts=hate. Good stuff :fing02: