The Ring Mag: Vlad Loses To Holmes, Tyson, Liston. Really?

I was trolling you :alucard: If people get upset over stuff like that then they need to get a sense of humour. Good gracious, I'm just recovering from a heart attack!!! I have to admit, you got me hook, line and sinker then Bro!! TAW!!! (only joking!!)

That is racism. Reported :alucard: Are you serious??? My Nan is Welsh, my Misses is from North Wales. I used that term in your bet thread and you never battered an eyelid. Good grief.

Yes, we all know you sci-fi and Pink Floyd fans are so wonderfully PC and liberal and bury all your uncomfortable feelings, so you accuse other whites of being racists as a way to compensate for the things you can't admit to yourselves. Like what??

Not true. Mayweather and Manny threads often have racism in them. Where is the racism in this thread? I haven't read all the thread. You clearly haven't Taff. Check all of Grinderman's posts Bro.

They have buddy mcgirt and some others giving reasons why Holmes,Tyson,and Liston beat him but I disagree. I do think young prime tyson mercs vlad, i believe holmes can certainly beat him but i would give vlad good odds against holmes but, Liston. I just cant see how liston beats vlad. dont get m,e wrong he could do it but id strongly favor vlad over liston any day. Thoughts? I think all 3 of those men beat Wlad quite easily. Not sure what you don't see.

He doesn't got much does he? If he can't handle you he swipes sh1t off your Facebook page :hahahaha9: :lol1: :lol1: What a spastic!!! :lol1:

What is creepy is the fact that it's always guys like you, a little geek who couldn't win a fight if he tried from now until he drops, who try to go around acting tough behind a keyboard. I guess you wish you were a big, strong black man with a big dick so your fat piggy wife would be satisfied, eh? Klitlickers ALWAYS bring race into a thread. Any thread that is embroiled with racism, you can guarantee that the Klitlickers are going to be at the epicentre of it.

Go f*ck yourself, geek. Is that the best you've got?? Geek?? :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Sonny Liston: uneducated, dumb black man and gambling addict whose fights were mostly mob fixes. When he got into the mob for too much money and they figured out people didn't like him as champ, they ordered him to lose to the more popular with whites Cassius Clay. So much for Sonny Liston. Read Nick Tosches' The Devil and Sonny Liston for the bitter truth about this guy. Terminate this Alt with extreme prejudice. most of the klits fans in this thread are just 1 guy with 10 different accounts aren't they ? Take your pick from CunTunney, FockerRead or CONTAMINATION. They all follow about the same retarded logic, so i would guess so. They sure make the rest of us Klitschko fans look like idiots. They do Harry. I'd have no problem with the Klitschko brothers if the Klitlickers didn't exist. .............him being black is a negative? since you listed his race in your lil rant trying to discredit him Good spot Maniac. You easily read between the lines. Most of the Klitschko haters are just one guy with 10 different accounts aren't they? What an idiot. :lol1: The mob considered him a dumb n*gger, it's just a fact, I didn't make it up. There are lots of dumb white people, but he didn't happen to be one of them. Terminate this Alt with extreme prejudice. I'm right in thinking that this new 'Klit loving' poster called 'Grinderman' in the new account of the banned poster 'ChopperRead'............ Take your pick from CunTunney, FockerRead or CONTAMINATION.

actually, Tyson beat more top opposition than Vitali has. not to mention his opponents usually werent fatties like practically all of Vitali's meaningful wins. Wladimir should definitely get in the HOF though. despite his era, hes beaten a lot of the best opponents available to him, and done it very dominantly. By the time his career is done, he will undoubtedly be HOF worthy. also you have to take into account that the HOF is not only about accomplishments. If you had a big impact outside of boxing, it definitely heightens your chances of getting into the HOF, although you have to be a good fighter too. Though I like Vitaly better, Wlad should get in and V shouldn't. The era sucks, but Wlad has done what he's supposed to do as champion, even if he bored me to sleep doing it.

very funny. mike tyson is a Hall of Famer and many call him a ATG, but where are tysons big wins? yeah, he has beaten an old and shot larry holmes, ok, but his other big fights? Evander and Lennox, and he lost all 3 of them. If Tyson gets in the HOF, than Vitali has to get in, too. actually, Tyson beat more top opposition than Vitali has. not to mention his opponents usually werent fatties like practically all of Vitali's meaningful wins. Wladimir should definitely get in the HOF though. despite his era, hes beaten a lot of the best opponents available to him, and done it very dominantly. By the time his career is done, he will undoubtedly be HOF worthy. also you have to take into account that the HOF is not only about accomplishments. If you had a big impact outside of boxing, it definitely heightens your chances of getting into the HOF, although you have to be a good fighter too.

very funny. mike tyson is a Hall of Famer and many call him a ATG, but where are tysons big wins? yeah, he has beaten an old and shot larry holmes, ok, but his other big fights? Evander and Lennox, and he lost all 3 of them. If Tyson gets in the HOF, than Vitali has to get in, too.

That piece presents absolutely no evidence what so ever that all of Sonny Liston's fights were fixed. It doesn't even mention anything remotely about that. And not a single book written about Sonny Liston does, either. Lmao!! Sonnyboy use to do the same thing posing articles that had nothing to do with the claim he had just made. Classic!!

I will say this,it does get annoying when the two brothers get interwined at almost every opportunity.For instance,this thread is about Wlad,not Vitali.They're two different fighters with two different careers.And the detractors are as guilty of doing this as the fans are.

How do you know that the current crop of shady promoters aren't fixing fights today? After all, they're "real nice guys" :jerk0ff9: Poet Fixed fights are non-existent in the modern super science era and only the boxers that get caught are juicing :poke:

I wouldn't be surprised if he's CrackerRead's newest alt :geek9: Poet It's obvious to me from the way he's been hounding Jab lately just like CrackerRead used to.

Not to mention how is Wlad going to "outjab" Liston when Liston has the better jab AND longer reach? Where do these mental lightweights get this sh1t? :rolleyes9: Poet Wow, I wasn't even aware that Liston had a longer reach than Wlad. What an interesting fact. Liston obviously had very long arms but I didn't even realise that. I believe Liston had a better jab than Wlad but NSB tend to not like that statment :lol1:

fighting vlad on the inside is more effective than the outside right? Of course. But Tyson isn't really an inside fighter nor is he that good inside. And Liston wouldn't fight on the outside entirely with Wlad he will find his way into close range and find him. Or atleast he would have as much chance as Tyson would at doing that.

They don't fight alike. But Liston is as much as capable of getting to Wlad as Tyson is. If not more. So I don't understand how you think Tyson would kill him but at the same time find the idea of Liston beating him to be far fetched. fighting vlad on the inside is more effective than the outside right?

it would be a battle of jabs with vlad and liston mike dips low and explodes on the inside while bobing and weavin. tyson fights differently than liston. i think vlad out jabs liston and starts landing rights and kos him. again weather or not ali ko'ing him was legit it left an impact of his chin in my mind. They don't fight alike. But Liston is as much as capable of getting to Wlad as Tyson is. If not more. So I don't understand how you think Tyson would kill him but at the same time find the idea of Liston beating him to be far fetched.