IT'S NOT CRITICISM JUST THE FACTS
people go on about froch's resume
people don't talk about how froch's last 3 fights have been against 2 guy's that just came off a loss and a 42yr old glorified journeyman with 14 L
out of carl froch's last 10 fights 4 have been against fighter's that won their last 6 fights
carl froch is a very good fighter he fought 2 young undefeated contenders, 2 former middleweight champions and a glorified journeyman
but people must realize when he fought a former world super middleweight champion he lost
and the super six is so overrated 3 european's against 5 americans
american tv company showtime should have named the tournament
Super five World Boxing Classic five of the best yank trying to do what no american has done before conquer 168
all carl froch has done is won joe calzaghe vacant title made 2 defences loss to mikkel kessler then won kessler's vacant title by beating a middleweight that just came off a loss then beat a 42yr old journeyman with 14 L
when he fought a former world super middleweight champion he lost. His next fight is against the world super middleweight champion what do you think going to happen?......
carl froch is the wbc paper champion mikkel kessler took his 0 and his belt remember
bika beat's taylor, Pascal, Dirrell, Abraham or Johnson
after froch loses to ward he should fight bika.......imo bika beat's froch
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No point in trying to reason with stupidity.
Nope, you still couldnt rebuttall my schooling i gave to you...unlucky and move on.
Schooling? Are you 10 years old? You gave your opinion that's all. Actually you gave me a lot of other peoples opinions lol Buncey, Dan Raphael, Manny Stewards. Me personally I like to think for myself, I like to make up my own mind. Like I said before, no need for a rebuttle, your post didn't deserve one. Like an idiot you used childish insults and accused me of being a racist towards Froch without even knowing my own race. You could have sent your post without the stupid insults and we could have had some back and fourth about it . We could have actually talked about boxing, the actual purpose of this site. You chose to act like a butt hurt little girl instead.
No need for a rebuttle, your post proved you to be a fanboy and everyone knows its a waste of time to argue with a fanboy. We can continue the conversation about the object of your pre pubescent affections when Ward beats his a$$ but not before that because to be honest, you are boring me.
Nope, you still couldnt rebuttall my schooling i gave to you...unlucky and move on.
Carl Froch and Ward r both basically knocking on Calzaghe's door as best ever in the division. After their fight, the winner will be virtually tied with him, and anything he accomplishes afterward will easily gain him a superior legacy. Tying up loose ends at Super Middleweight, then moving up to 175. Easily superior...
And I say this knowing full well that Calzaghe would without a doubt beat both of them, and everyone else in the super 6, or at 175...
LMAO your A wigger then...
Plus lol at not even attempting to rebuttall my post...enjoyed cooling you you ugly cunt, now **** off...
No need for a rebuttle, your post proved you to be a fanboy and everyone knows its a waste of time to argue with a fanboy. We can continue the conversation about the object of your pre pubescent affections when Ward beats his a$$ but not before that because to be honest, you are boring me.
I'm white dude, so grow the f**k up!
You made me laugh when you mentioned top pundits and then put Buncey in there. Peace fanboy!!!
LMAO your A wigger then...
Plus lol at not even attempting to rebuttall my post...enjoyed cooling you you ugly cunt, now **** off...
If Froch is as bad as some you make out, then if Ward was to beat him - he shouldn't get praised right? He wouldn't deserve a p4p ranking for beating an overrated Brit right?
WRONG.
Froch and Ward are the 2 best at 168. Whoever wins has rightfully earned their position as the best at SMW. Best of luck to both men. I just hope for a fair, clean fight.
Most people on these boards are fans of BOXERS, rather then fans of BOXING. smh
Frochwas going in the al round against taylor on a split decision, even with the non kncokout he won that round 10-7, asnd on points. Plus the showtime pundits had it a split/draw going into the final round. So already your a cunt.
As for the dirrell fight, froch won by a mile. Dirrells face was bloddied, boxrec punch stats showed froch won, All the top pundits like dan rafael, manny stewart, allan green, graham houston and buncey all had froch winning.
In fact swap the judges with the ring side press row and froch wins by unanimous.
Finally, dirrells best round was round 10, which he rightly got a point deducted, for excessive holding, illegal ducking, and falling over everytime froch was going to knock him out, so his best round was a 10-10. Sums it up for me.
Stop hating on froch because of his ethnicity...
I'm white dude, so grow the f**k up!
You made me laugh when you mentioned top pundits and then put Buncey in there. Peace fanboy!!!
Fans loved Gatti too. Doesn't change the fact he was a C grade fighter who got the crap beat out of him every time he stepped up.
People complain about ELITE fighters who duck each other.....non-elite fighters: Who gives a sh1t?
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whos kicked the "crap" out mof froch....no one, his only "loss", was very debatable and he didnt come out of it with a detached retina...
I have to agree with the article. Froch was losing to Taylor, a career middleweight until the knockout came. He lost against Dirrell but got a lucky decision. Lost a close fight to a poor version of Kessler. He looked very good against King Arthur but he's also a career middleweight. He looked good against Glen Johnson but he hadn't fought at that weight in a very long time. I actually want Froch to win against Ward but I don't think he will (I think Ward makes him look silly) and I'm willing to put some points on that if anyone is interested. When he loses the Ward fight it will be the third fight he has lost against fighters who are his natural size. I'm including the dirrell fight as a loss.
For anyone who will feel the need to blast me for my opinion feel free to put your points were your mouths are instead.
Frochwas going in the al round against taylor on a split decision, even with the non kncokout he won that round 10-7, asnd on points. Plus the showtime pundits had it a split/draw going into the final round. So already your a cunt.
As for the dirrell fight, froch won by a mile. Dirrells face was bloddied, boxrec punch stats showed froch won, All the top pundits like dan rafael, manny stewart, allan green, graham houston and buncey all had froch winning.
In fact swap the judges with the ring side press row and froch wins by unanimous.
Finally, dirrells best round was round 10, which he rightly got a point deducted, for excessive holding, illegal ducking, and falling over everytime froch was going to knock him out, so his best round was a 10-10. Sums it up for me.
Stop hating on froch because of his ethnicity...
I have to agree with the article. Froch was losing to Taylor, a career middleweight until the knockout came. He lost against Dirrell but got a lucky decision. Lost a close fight to a poor version of Kessler. He looked very good against King Arthur but he's also a career middleweight. He looked good against Glen Johnson but he hadn't fought at that weight in a very long time. I actually want Froch to win against Ward but I don't think he will (I think Ward makes him look silly) and I'm willing to put some points on that if anyone is interested. When he loses the Ward fight it will be the third fight he has lost against fighters who are his natural size. I'm including the dirrell fight as a loss.
For anyone who will feel the need to blast me for my opinion feel free to put your points were your mouths are instead.
your stupid logic makes no sense. lacy was in a lot more super middleweight title fights than taylor but taylor schooled him so is lacy better? juan carlos giminez ferrari is better than pascal or dirrell because he had more title fight losses? according to you yes but like i said it makes no sense. froch fought 7 top fighters in a row and most of them were elite or near elite level fighters. the only near elite fighters calzaghe ever fought were lacy(not very good) and kessler. he also beat a bunch of complete cans and some recycled b level fighters like byron mitchell and richie woodhall.
I disagree, Froch hasn't fought an elite fighter.
what's your obsession with belt holders? being a belt holder doesn't mean you are a top notch fighter. should hopkins fight shumenov instead of dawson because shumenov has a belt and dawson doesn't? your silly logic makes no sense. froch fought 7 top 10 guys in a row and all of them in their prime cept johnson and maybe taylor. calzaghe only fought 8 top 10 guys total at super middle and most were washed up guys like woodhall, brewer, etc.... even manfredo was one of his 8 so that shows you how poor their level generally was.
being a belt holder mean's you are a world champion and gives you a top 4 world ranking
froch fought 7 top 10 guys in a row but only 1 was a former smw champion
guest what happened?...........
every ex world champion carl froch has fought have been over the hill
just name 1 reigning world champion that froch has fought?.......
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what's your obsession with belt holders? being a belt holder doesn't mean you are a top notch fighter. should hopkins fight shumenov instead of dawson because shumenov has a belt and dawson doesn't? your silly logic makes no sense. froch fought 7 top 10 guys in a row and all of them in their prime cept johnson and maybe taylor. calzaghe only fought 8 top 10 guys total at super middle and most were washed up guys like woodhall, brewer, etc.... even manfredo was one of his 8 so that shows you how poor their level generally was.
Dude. No one's claiming Farl Croch's resume is worth more than used toilet paper. The point is Calslapghe's is as bad if not worse.
Poet
“Haters keep on hating cause somebody’s gotta do it.”
what 4 did calzaghe? oh you mean washed up ex champs? what's so great about beating washed up ex champs? super middleweight was full of guys like that because they couldn't keep a belt for more than a fight or 2. froch is fighting the people who are the best now. they don't happen to be champs because a bunch of cherry pickers have the belts. so if froch fought alegandro berrio that's better than beating pascal, taylor, or glen johnson? once again your silly numbers don't actually tell the story of the level of competition each man faced. froch faced the much better fighters regardless if they had a silly belt. b level fighters get belts so they can be protected. steiglitz has 4 title defenses and he's not a top fighter. andrade and berrio knocked him silly already.
every ex world champion carl froch has fought have been over the hill
just name 1 reigning world champion that froch has fought?.......
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All of which is absolutely meaningless as he fought a never ending slate of feces. Strength of schedule matters......unless you're a deluded nuthugger like yourself.
Poet
bute's almost halfway to calzaghe/ottke's magical mark of 21. i swear time flies when you are fighting bums. so many all time greats going around in this division.
The GOAT at what? A bogus division like Super-Middleweight? That's like claiming you're the smartest kid in the special-ed class.
Poet
CALZAGHE IS THE LONGEST-REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION OF THE MODERN ERA
CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF 4 MEN IN HISTORY TO HAVE OVER 20 TITLE DEFENCES
CALZAGHE IS 1 OUT OF ONLY 3 BOXERS IN HISTORY TO BE UNDISPUTED AND UNDEFEATED WORLD CHAMPION
CALZAGHE WAS CHAMPION FOR 11YRS AND RETIRED UNDEFEATED 46-0
that what makes joe calzaghe the G.O.A.T
you name 4 smw world champions joe calzaghe beat
now name 4 former smw world champions carl froch has fought?......
what 4 did calzaghe? oh you mean washed up ex champs? what's so great about beating washed up ex champs? super middleweight was full of guys like that because they couldn't keep a belt for more than a fight or 2. froch is fighting the people who are the best now. they don't happen to be champs because a bunch of cherry pickers have the belts. so if froch fought ex champ alejandro berrio that's better than beating pascal, taylor, or glen johnson? once again your silly numbers don't actually tell the story of the level of competition each man faced. froch faced the much better fighters regardless if they had a silly belt. b level fighters get belts so they can be protected. steiglitz has 4 title defenses and he's not a top fighter and is yet to beat a top fighter. andrade and berrio knocked him silly already.