If Dawson beats Hopkins he not only belongs on the p4p lists, but he is a lock for the hall of fame. Agree or disagree, vote and than state your reasons.
I think this thread proves neither Dawson or Adamek have accomplished enough, even if they win their next fights, to be considered for the HOF. Thanks for the responses.
Are you guys kidding me? He has to be a lock for both of these things if Adamek is, no? Here is the proof because 75% of the voters said so. How can I be wrong if so many others are right? :dunno:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498281
Ademek doesn't belong in there either. I don't take NSB polls seriously.
Beating Hopkins would be a good addition to his “application” to the HOF so to speak but cannot be the centerpiece of it if you guys understand what I am saying. Beating some of those guys at 168 once they either move up or at a catchweight could certainly help make the case. If he were to beat Ward, Froch, and Bute in addition to Hopkins along with the guys he already beat then I would definitely say you have to start giving him some consideration.
True. At hopkins' age, dawson won't get alot of credit 4 beating him. ppl will just say age caught up with him. Especially if he beats the brakes off hopkins.
yeah, i pretty much agree, that's why i voted he would probably crack the p4p list, but i wouldn't considered him an instant lock for hof. dawson still has time though, and as a somewhat fan of his, i think he can be in it when his career is all said and done.
In reality, B-Hop is not supposed to be beating these guys. If Dawson wins, he is supposed to.
True. At hopkins' age, dawson won't get alot of credit 4 beating him. ppl will just say age caught up with him. Especially if he beats the brakes off hopkins.
You hate fighters based on their skin colour and nationality,Jab doesnt,everybody knows this,its funny how you try and turn it around when anybody with half a brain cell can see you are racist scum
yes he does. it's called projection and tunney and bots are masters of it.
The fact is, you hate Adamek because he's white.
If Dawson had done exactly the same as Adamek - moved up to cruiserweight and beat the same fighters Adamek beat and become Ring champion, and then did exactly the same at heavyweight as Adamek has - he'd be an ATG in your mind.
You need to see a psychiatrist to help you with your self-loathing. Some white man must have done something very bad to you when you were a little boy.
Listen to the words of this song:
You hate fighters based on their skin colour and nationality,Jab doesnt,everybody knows this,its funny how you try and turn it around when anybody with half a brain cell can see you are racist scum
If Dawson beats Hopkins he not only belongs on the p4p lists, but he is a lock for the hall of fame. Agree or disagree, vote and than state your reasons.
a "lock"
not even close
and he's still in his prime
we need to see what he does with the rest of it
hell, not very long ago he lost a td to jean pascal
The fact is, you hate Adamek because he's white.
If Dawson had done exactly the same as Adamek - moved up to cruiserweight and beat the same fighters Adamek beat and become Ring champion, and then did exactly the same at heavyweight as Adamek has - he'd be an ATG in your mind.
You need to see a psychiatrist to help you with your self-loathing. Some white man must have done something very bad to you when you were a little boy.
Listen to the words of this song:
if calzaghe gets in then obviously dawson should since he would have the much better resume. all dawson would need is a long stretch of title defenses against bums to match calzaghe.
would it be fair to say Adamek would probably be Vitalis greatest win? I mean what else could it be, Sanders?
Man Vitalis resume is so horrible. Too bad, because i actually think hes really good.
(and no, "DOMINATION", Lennox does not count as a win)
If he's Vitalys best win it just goes to show how weak his comp is.
The fact is, you hate Adamek because he's white.
If Dawson had done exactly the same as Adamek - moved up to cruiserweight and beat the same fighters Adamek beat and become Ring champion, and then did exactly the same at heavyweight as Adamek has - he'd be an ATG in your mind.
You need to see a psychiatrist to help you with your self-loathing. Some white man must have done something very bad to you when you were a little boy.
Listen to the words of this song:
Its Obvious you're going to have to go on ignore for this thread. You're unable to have any sort of reasonable nor logical discussion about the facts and would rather just troll. :bye:
This is the type of nuthugging logic that makes me laugh! You guys are just trying to blow Adamek up so after Klit beats him you can claim some sort of great victory. But the fact is Adamek lost to Dawson, had no longevity at cruiser fighting only 2 decent fighters and has become relevant at heavyweight because it is such a weak division.
would it be fair to say Adamek would probably be Vitalis greatest win? I mean what else could it be, Sanders?
Man Vitalis resume is so horrible. Too bad, because i actually think hes really good.
(and no, "DOMINATION", Lennox does not count as a win)
If Dawson beats Hopkins he not only belongs on the p4p lists, but he is a lock for the hall of fame. Agree or disagree, vote and than state your reasons.
No. That would be premature. He needs to a do lot more IMO including a rematch with Pascal for the HOF. Also, Hopkins is almost 47 years old. But the HOF standards are so low now that it would not surprise me if he got in.
Just like Cotto, Dawson looks to always fight the best. Those are HOF fighters to me, always looking to fight the best. Why is Sylvester Stallone even in the HOF, he is a joke ass actor.
No disrespect but he literally said directly in his post not to use Stallone being in as an example.
Stallone is not in the HOF as a fighter. He is in the HOF as a celebrity. It's two entirely different things.
And it doesn't matter that someone fights the best. That doesn't make them a HOF'er.
Oakland Billy Smith ALWAYS fought the best. as did Juan Laporte. But they obviously aren't HOF'ers.
And Chad Dawson certainly isn't. Not even close.
If Dawson defeats Hopkins, he's still not HOF worthy yet.
However, if after that he moves up to cruiserweight and becomes Ring champion, and then moves up to heavyweight and defeats a Klitschko, then he belongs in the HOF.
thats quite a task, while for Adamek a W over Vitali, cunningham and banks seems to be enough. :dance:
If Dawson defeats Hopkins, he's still not HOF worthy yet.
However, if after that he moves up to cruiserweight and becomes Ring champion, and then moves up to heavyweight and defeats a Klitschko, then he belongs in the HOF.
This is the type of nuthugging logic that makes me laugh! You guys are just trying to blow Adamek up so after Klit beats him you can claim some sort of great victory. But the fact is Adamek lost to Dawson, had no longevity at cruiser fighting only 2 decent fighters and has become relevant at heavyweight because it is such a weak division.
Cool movie, I'll give you that but I respect fighters much more than I do actors. Stallone even does hgh or some steroid type **** to get big for those roles too.
well theres def no way one can respect him as a boxer no doubt...its the image of "Rocky" and what Rocky stood for in boxing...again the music the training etc...jus gets a boxers blood pumpen...good movie for the sport