Where do YOU rate the Klitschkos?

You have shown nothing. Think about it, why would I rub it in his face by showing his hideous looking picture, of him and his obese wife, if it wasn't provoked first? But keep fishing, this is hilarious. Cup, you don't seem to understand that I don't care who started between the two of you. I deleted both your posts. But you already had a strike against by trying to call me out in your very first post when there was no need for it. Because of a mutual acquaintance speaking on your behalf though Im willing to put this behind us and you're welcome to post in the history section if you want. Now we're never going to agree about the Klits, that Im pretty certain of. So if you're agreeable I would suggest you avoid my posts on that topic and I'll avoid yours. It's your call man.

You have shown nothing. Think about it, why would I rub it in his face by showing his hideous looking picture, of him and his obese wife, if it wasn't provoked first? But keep fishing, this is hilarious. Cup, you don't seem to understand that I don't care who started between the two of you. I deleted both your posts. But you already had a strike against by trying to call me out in your very first post when there was no need for it. Because of a mutual acquaintance speaking on your behalf though Im willing to put this behind us and you're welcome to post in the history section if you want. Now we're never going to agree about the Klits, that Im pretty certain of. So if you're agreeable I would suggest you avoid my posts on that topic and I'll avoid yours. It's your call man.

Posts like this represent the entire 5,971 worth of comments since your join date of last year. Lacking in any substance. Just do yourself a favor and log off, and don't bother coming back until your IQ grows another 10 points, reaching the Average Quotient. Ahh, the typical log off comment from someone who can't handle a difference in opinion. Funny how you mention IQ when it's not possible to see all my posts. Follow your own advice since it's clear you lack in that area.

Typical. I'm surprised he hasn't taken a page out of his idol Wlad Ownz's handbook and sent you red with the message "dumb n****r" attached to it.....I've gotten a few of those from Wlad Ownz :hahahaha9: poet Ironic that he doesn't discriminate with his racism :lol1:

Whatever I ignored from his posts is cancelled out by all the positive feedback I received from him, via Private Message. Which I won't share with you. Thought I just let you know, before you go on one of your O.C.D. like tantrums, following me around from thread to thread, asking why I ignored It's Ovah's rest of the post....:lol1: By O.C.D. tantrums you mean me calling you out on your bull****. Sam Peter a beast on the inside :lol1:

For those who don't know, edgarg is one of Wlad Ownz's (aka DOMINATION) creepy little minions. A quick search of his post history reveals he's been wanking over the Klits and cheerleading Wlad Ownz since at least 2008 :geek9: Poet Here is a post of his referring to me, make what you will of it... You are very acute. Someone did do something to these guys when they were young. They were made either to get off the streets and go to school, or if past school age, to get off welfare and go and get a job. That must have been during the Ronald Regan era. That can cour a man.....of a certain type.......and the Malcolm X's of this world don 't help. Nor the Jeremiah Wrights.

For those who don't know, edgarg is one of Wlad Ownz's (aka DOMINATION) creepy little minions. A quick search of his post history reveals he's been wanking over the Klits and cheerleading Wlad Ownz since at least 2008 :geek9: Poet Good bit of investigating Bro. :biggthump The only thing that invalidates your finding is that Steehammer has never consistently posted on a thread over a long period of time like edgarg does. Steelhammer/Wlad Ownz/Domination usually posts his usual cut and pastes and then vanishes. Edit: Sorry, you're saying that edgarg licks Domination's arse who licks the Klits!!

Let me guess, it was RubbenSunny that followed you around for a month? A pattern is starting to establish. Perhaps he has a Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder. Funny how you ignored the rest of his post condemning your dishonorable behavior.

:lol1: What an example. I illustrated to reason with you and you still dodged the question.

If you use you abuse. Period. End of story. No different then a dope head: If you take dope you're an abuser. Period. And btw, why don't you go back to your glory-hole since no one wants to watch a grown man rhetorically fellate two slow unathletic white dudes from Ukraine. Poet I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, and I seriously doubt if you exactly know either. I was wondering how long it would be before you descended to your more normal low, trashy vulgarities. I remember you well from long ago...you see..... You seem to be referring to the Klitschkos. Well, they ARE the World's Heavyweight Champions, so why not refer to them with, perhaps, a little respect. Or is that too much to ask of your "manhood"?? Instead of trying to provoke a macho sort of dispute with me who won't play your little game. To make yourself feel good this time, you'll just have to look in the mirror, just like your friend Willy...I should say, Villy Hohenazollern. You may..or may not....notice that the language I use in dealing even with the lies of you, keeps well above the line of gentility and politeness. Why not try...try and try again, to make yourself better, "every day, in every way"..... and not just the usual piece of obscentity. Mr. "Poet"........

If you like to think so....be my guest. It places you exactly where you should be.....in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like to explain why Wilie Hohenzollern was NOT the laughingstock of Europe for so many years.....if you can. As Barbara Tuchman put it..."Willie Hohenzollern, the possessor of the least inhibited tongue in Europe.....". In other places he was referred to as "That madman in Berlin".. and "That sabre rattling fool in Potsdam". I have lots more.......Please just explain them, your "All Powerful Imperial Highness"... "God's Anointed Vicar".........

Another knee-jerk reaction. If I didn't phrase it correctly for you to understand the first time, you should've understood my context in the post you just responded to. I believe I covered all the bases. MOVING ON. He said, she said. And round we go. See above comment. Wlad's jab is a combination of pawing to keep an opponent at bay/establish a range, and jabbing hard if he sees you're coming in, or if you're just covering up in a turtle shell and being stationary. All while he barely uses his footwork, nothing like Ali at least, who in his prime expended lots of energy for his jab to work. Once Ali lost his footwork, his jab wasn't as effective, and he resorted to doing the Rope-A-Dope more and more. Hence why it's not nearly as effective as Wlad's. He relied on footwork for it to be effective, Wlad relies on his Height. Ali lost his footwork, but Wlad sure isn't losing his height. To me Wlad's Jab >> Ali's jab, as it is multidimensional in keeping fighters off him (pawing) and hitting hard in between all the pawing. This is theoretical and no way for me to argue against. I have always said that he had stamina issues due to him trying to fight like a lower weight, smaller fighter, by moving around too much and expending unnecessary energy, trying to do the same thing that he could do with HALF EFFORT. And yes, we agree, he has since then closed the gap and perfected that style. Some call it boring, some call it him being scared. I call it the perfect, most effective style possible. He has been consistent, and he has consistently dominated a wide range of different styles. And I don't believe a 5'11, Low-Weight Smoking Joe would be any different, for reasons already mentioned. I'm glad to hear that. I didn't make that part up, I have heard it from multiple people, that people who favor Klitschko in any scenario get trashed, if they retaliate get banned, and that's almost exactly what happened. The Pink Font troll was the first to get on my case just for giving my answer to the Thread's question. And I retaliated. Take it as you will. It seems we could actually discuss boxing in a civilized manner, but it would have to be on a different topic. So I'll stop, since it's probably too late for that in this thread or the Frazier vs. Wlad thread. Too much off topic posts both ways.

Of course they are Bro. If you indecently touch a young kid for 5 seconds, you're a child abuser. Or don't you agree?? :lol1: What an example.

InB4 'Klitschko are greatest of all time'.

Make sure you reinstate the Poet's response to my first and original post in that thread. You exposed nothing. Wasn't it just you complaining about who fired the first bullet as a troll? I've plainly shown it was you in your very first post in that thread and now you want to twist things and lay blame elsewhere. All Poets posts were deleted to, so Im obviously not biased. You've been owned again son, give it up.

I see your knowledge of history is VERY similar to your knowledge of boxing: Superficial bordering on ignorant. Poet If you like to think so....be my guest. It places you exactly where you should be.....in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like to explain why Wilie Hohenzollern was NOT the laughingstock of Europe for so many years.....if you can.

I see, so Toney, RJJ and Evander Holyfield are steroid abusers too. Of course they are Bro. If you indecently touch a young kid for 5 seconds, you're a child abuser. Or don't you agree??

Is the H/W as dead as made out or are the Klitschkos just that damn effective? I truely believe/know that in any era there styles, size, & skills would of gave anybody major problems. I honestly do think they get so much stick it's unreal. Both haven't lost in nearly a decade & they have beaten everybody. From fast slick guys to big K.O artists, you name it. A lot of these guys have been destroying everything until they meet one of the K's & they have barely lost a round, then they fight a Klitschko & get KTFO in the process, barely winning 1 round. It's to the point I think if they was even in any other era & did this everybody would say the division was at an all time low. Imo we have never seen this before and likely never will, we should respect them both now & fair play a good few are coming round. I also get fed up hearing ''They are boring'' Vitali is not boring and if he is it's because his opponent is scared for his life, pretty much the same with Wlad though he picks his shots better & likes too soften guys up before he goes in for the kill. They have broken so many records it's ridiculous but I feel they get so little respect, it makes me sick. I think the golden era is so damn overrated... This brings me to one question...How does a guy with nothing but a left hook & a decent lateral movement, a guy that is barely 6ft with no jab, two left feet & pretty much a trim but poor mans David Tua beat a Klitschko? Yes you got it Joe Frazier. I seen you all vote like 25-3 saying Frazier would muller both brothers, you talk about Wlad having no chin HA! Joe Frazier, yes he was damn good, a BEAST in fact but his chin was a ****ing joke & he was limited as hell. HE WOULDN'T OF WON A SINGLE ROUND AGAINST EITHER BROTHER! And if he fought Vitali, styles make fights, Vitali would of put him into a coma. You lot on here are a joke IMO & another guy you underrate is Hopkins who has one of the best boxing brains & C.V's EVER! Easily a top 20 of all time, if not better. Klitschko's - easily top 10 heavyweights, if not in the top 5. They both haven't lost in nearly a decade cause the division has been dead for that long, fact!!!!!

You have to look at the length of the careers they've had and dominance they have exerted over their opponents, KO percentages through the roof etc..., it all adds up to top 10 ATG's for me.

If you use you abuse. Period. End of story. No different then a dope head: If you take dope you're an abuser. Period. And btw, why don't you go back to your glory-hole since no one wants to watch a grown man rhetorically fellate two slow unathletic white dudes from Ukraine. Poet I see, so Toney, RJJ and Evander Holyfield are steroid abusers too.