Let me start by conceding that Victor Ortiz is the younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic and harder hitter of the two boxers. Everyone should know this; It is a given. Also, Floyd is 34 years old, turned pro in 1996 and has been inactive for 16 months. Therefore, all the intangibles are in Victor's favor. However, with that being said and if father time and ring rust has yet to catch up to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Then these are the seven tangible reasons why this will be a difficult task for Victor Ortiz and why he won't win this fight:
1. He doesn't throw enough punches. One of the more essential keys in defeating Floyd is beating him to the punch; De La Hoya can attest to this.
2. He has no jab; Making him more susceptible to floyd's counters.
3. He doesn't have a body attack; Making it easier on Floyd legs and lower body movement, to just stand in the center of the pocket, while mostly implementing the upper body shoulder roll movement, to avoid his power punches.
4. No defense; He is easy to hit.
5. He is not a swarming/pressure fighter who likes to fight on the inside or at a very active pace, in order to smother, a boxer like Mayweather who relies on footwork and spacing. He tends to fight in bursts.
6. He is inexperienced. He has never fought anyone near of an elite championship caliber opponent as Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
7. He lacks mental toughness.
hmmm..i think alot of people have Mayweather winning this fight..what made you think that your opinion was needed.
Precisely my point! While it's true that a lot of people have Mayweather winning this fight, however there are many who don't. There are many boxing fans predicting an Ortiz upset. That's why I felt compelled in posting this thread. Also, never once have I accused anyone of playing fanboy or hater because they have Victor picked as you've just done me because I believe they are all giving an honest assessment of their reasons on why they think Ortiz will win. Lastly, never have I said that Victor can't win this fight because there is the outside possibility that he can. This is boxing dude. All it takes is one good punch to end any fight. While there's an outside possibility of Floyd losing this fight I honestly just don't see it happening.
1) Mayweather has more skill
2) Mayweather has more heart while Ortiz is a quitter
3) Mayweather is too smart for Ortiz
4) Mayweather has too much speed for Ortiz
5) Mayweather has great defence while Ortiz fights with his face.
6) Mayweather has big fight experience while Ortiz is real green
7) Mayweather has also got power
Let me start by conceding that Victor Ortiz is the younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic and harder hitter of the two boxers. Everyone should know this; It is a given. Also, Floyd is 34 years old, turned pro in 1996 and has been inactive for 16 months. Therefore, all the intangibles are in Victor's favor. However, with that being said and if father time and ring rust has yet to catch up to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Then these are the seven tangible reasons why this will be a difficult task for Victor Ortiz and why he won't win this fight:
1. He doesn't throw enough punches. One of the more essential keys in defeating Floyd is beating him to the punch; De La Hoya can attest to this.
2. He has no jab; Making him more susceptible to floyd's counters.
3. He doesn't have a body attack; Making it easier on Floyd legs and lower body movement, to just stand in the center of the pocket, while mostly implementing the upper body shoulder roll movement, to avoid his power punches.
4. No defense; He is easy to hit.
5. He is not a swarming/pressure fighter who likes to fight on the inside or at a very active pace, in order to smother, a boxer like Mayweather who relies on footwork and spacing. He tends to fight in bursts.
6. He is inexperienced. He has never fought anyone near of an elite championship caliber opponent as Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
7. He lacks mental toughness.
hmmm..i think alot of people have Mayweather winning this fight..what made you think that your opinion was needed..especially in dumb sh*t points. Your points are so black and white aswell, "he has no defense" "he has no jab". At least word your opinions in a manor that doesnt make you out to be a fanboy. Ortiz has a jab and he has defense, he doesnt have the best..but alot of people said Sergio "didnt have a jab" and look what he did to Dzinziruk.
ps, in regards to "mental toughness"..did you watch the Berto match?
ortiz also has a little suspect chin. hit him clean, and he goes down. but i think the #7 reason is by far the strongest. floyd's style usually frustrates his opponents to no end. zab, gatti, hatton, mosley ... are examples of this.
zab totally lost it, he went low blows and instigated a ring brawl
gatti and hatton went berserk and were disposed of
mosley's corner wanted to stop the fight after 10th and so on.
The reality is all of Victors powershots come from his lead hand the right han; like Winky he's a righthanded Southpaw. DeLa Hoya was good at not landing punches so if I was Ortiz I wouldn't follow that blueprint unless you want to lose.
Because he is a southpaw the jab doesn't matter much. The reason a 'jab' is successful against floyd is because as a conventional fighter, your left hand is the only hand that can hit him when he uses teh shoulder roll - or else your right hand will hit him in his shoulder/lowback and you risk penalty.
A good lead (left hand) for jabs and hooks is essential against the roll. This is why he doesn't use it against Southpaws.. because that same side he rolls on is now replaced with power straight instead of jabs and it then becomes too dangerous. Not having a jab wont effect Vic so much because he is a southpaw. The rest I agree with though
Also, he may not be a swarmer but he's damn good inside. He does that hook into uppcut, uppercut into hook combination while pivoting very well.
Agreed, his lack of a jab might leave him catching shots on the way in, but his inside game is solid and will help him land clean on Mayweather from time to time. Also DLH figured it out and Ortiz will also understand that you have to put in work to the body if you want to succeed, expect some body work that's unexpected from Ortiz.
Let me start by conceding that Victor Ortiz is the younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic and harder hitter of the two boxers. Everyone should know this; It is a given. Also, Floyd is 34 years old, turned pro in 1996 and has been inactive for 16 months. Therefore, all the intangibles are in Victor's favor. However, with that being said and if father time and ring rust has yet to catch up to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Then these are the seven tangible reasons why this will be a difficult task for Victor Ortiz and why he won't win this fight:
1. He doesn't throw enough punches. One of the more essential keys in defeating Floyd is beating him to the punch; De La Hoya can attest to this.
2. He has no jab; Making him more susceptible to floyd's counters.
3. He doesn't have a body attack; Making it easier on Floyd legs and lower body movement, to just stand in the center of the pocket, while mostly implementing the upper body shoulder roll movement, to avoid his power punches.
4. No defense; He is easy to hit.
5. He is not a swarming/pressure fighter who likes to fight on the inside or at a very active pace, in order to smother, a boxer like Mayweather who relies on footwork and spacing. He tends to fight in bursts.
6. He is inexperienced. He has never fought anyone near of an elite championship caliber opponent as Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
7. He lacks mental toughness.
Because he is a southpaw the jab doesn't matter much. The reason a 'jab' is successful against floyd is because as a conventional fighter, your left hand is the only hand that can hit him when he uses teh shoulder roll - or else your right hand will hit him in his shoulder/lowback and you risk penalty.
A good lead (left hand) for jabs and hooks is essential against the roll. This is why he doesn't use it against Southpaws.. because that same side he rolls on is now replaced with power straight instead of jabs and it then becomes too dangerous. Not having a jab wont effect Vic so much because he is a southpaw. The rest I agree with though
Also, he may not be a swarmer but he's damn good inside. He does that hook into uppcut, uppercut into hook combination while pivoting very well.