If Haye & Mayorga Both Retired Right Now, Who Would Be Ranked As The Greater Fighter?

Agreed. Mayorga is extremely overrated based on his fights with Vernon Forrest. And the second was highly questionable. I also believe Mayorga would have lost to Margarito had they met 147 while both had belts. You couldn't tell about Mayorga, he was so wild and threw punches from the most impossible directions and angles that you could never count him out in his prime against anybody. And he had a very good chin, he took 3 of Trinidad's patented left hooks in a "free shot" he gave him, and still stayed on his feet, although slightly staggered by one.

Mayorga was the legit WW champ. No he wasn't. Margarito held a belt there at the same time.

Haye. He was considered the best CW. Mayorga has never been the best anything. Agreed. Mayorga is extremely overrated based on his fights with Vernon Forrest. And the second was highly questionable. I also believe Mayorga would have lost to Margarito had they met 147 while both had belts.

Mayorga for sure.

Haye's top wins: -Maccarinelli -Harrison -Ruiz -Valuev -Mormeck Mayorga's best wins: Forrest (x2) Vargas Lewis Piccirillo I think despite Haye being an 'Undisputed Champion' at CW, the Cruiserweight division is lacking talent. His best wins at HW are weak opposition. The only decent wins were Mormeck who wobbled him like cardboard and Valuev when he set a record for the least number of punches thrown in a HW contest. Meanwhile Mayorga beat a 'Prime' Vernon Forrest by KO and beat him on points. He also beat Fernando Vargas but he was agreeably done. He gave Tito all he could handle early on and gave Cotto, Mosley, Spinks a rough time. I think Mayorga has more legit wins, Haye certainly attains the Undisputed status, but Mayorga I would rate the higher of the two. Good Thread by the way. I don't think that Haye was Undisputed, he was Unified Champion. He held 3 of the 4 major titles.

two wins over Forrest>Haye's entire career. I mean, Haye's best win is Mormeck or Valuev, and a lot of people thought he lost that horrible fight... and Mayorga was the best WW in the world when he beat Forrest, who was coming off two wins over Mosley who had beaten DLH This....................

Mayorga beating Forrest is better than anything Haye's done, but Haye was unified cruiserweight champion. Mayorga can't match that.

two wins over Forrest>Haye's entire career. I mean, Haye's best win is Mormeck or Valuev, and a lot of people thought he lost that horrible fight... and Mayorga was the best WW in the world when he beat Forrest, who was coming off two wins over Mosley who had beaten DLH

Haye's top wins: -Maccarinelli -Harrison -Ruiz -Valuev -Mormeck Mayorga's best wins: Forrest (x2) Vargas Lewis Piccirillo I think despite Haye being an 'Undisputed Champion' at CW, the Cruiserweight division is lacking talent. His best wins at HW are weak opposition. The only decent wins were Mormeck who wobbled him like cardboard and Valuev when he set a record for the least number of punches thrown in a HW contest. Meanwhile Mayorga beat a 'Prime' Vernon Forrest by KO and beat him on points. He also beat Fernando Vargas but he was agreeably done. He gave Tito all he could handle early on and gave Cotto, Mosley, Spinks a rough time. I think Mayorga has more legit wins, Haye certainly attains the Undisputed status, but Mayorga I would rate the higher of the two. Good Thread by the way.

Mayorga no doubt!he beat forrest twice,wen forrest was ww champion and undeafeted at tha time after forrest beat a prime mosley twice!haye didnt have the balls,like mayorga did to even try to beat klitchsko

Haye. He was considered the best CW. Mayorga has never been the best anything. He was Ring WW champ at one point.

Haye. He was considered the best CW. Mayorga has never been the best anything.

Mayorga, because got 2 wins against a guy who was a great fighter: Vernon Forrest.

What has Haye done at all? Seriously at least Mayorga has legit wins under his belt Haye in a nobody. Haye unified the CW division.

Maorga by far. He fought better competition and didint care if he lost really he just wanted to get paid and put on a show. Mayorga has balls unlike Mr. Messed Up Toe

What has Haye done at all? Seriously at least Mayorga has legit wins under his belt Haye in a nobody.

I would say Haye because at the very least you could say he is one of the better cruiser weights all time, even though that is not a very storied division at least he has that and I have a soft spot all time for guys that rank in a division (even soft ones). Plus he did go up and grab a strap at heavy even though a victory over Valuev really doesn't carry that much weight but it is still a plus. Mayorga fought more better guys and does have the best win overall (probably two but against the same guy), so I couldn't fault anyone choosing him. I still feel Haye edges him just barely.