Can we all just accept May vs Pac is NOT happening!

2012! :boxing:

Manny had a bad experience giving blood before and may also be a cultural thing. Roach wanted Cotto at catchweight because he was not willing for these big welters a big weight advantage in the ring. Cotto was happy with 145lbs. Pacquiao never asked Shane for a test? If by bad experience you mean He lost to Morales and used giving blood as an excuse. I'd hope even you would admit that. It was Manny's request. if he didn't want 145 just demand it be at 147. What does it say about manny's mentality that he wouldn't demand 147 since, as your post implies, he wanted 147. Manny did ask for a PED test and then pulled it off the table. Can't deny that and be credible. Overall, does your post about mindsets apply only to floyd and PED testing or does it apply to other fighters and their pre fight requests?

The mindset of asking for the for the tests is a mind set of someone who know they are not the best. How would describe the mindset of the one refusing to take the test? Does this apply to all fighters or just floyd? For example, would Manny asking Cotto for a catchweight be the mind set of someone who knows they are not the best? And didn't Manny ask Shane for a test befor erecanting? Was he feeling he wasn't the best? I'm very interested in your answers. Manny had a bad experience giving blood before and may also be a cultural thing. Roach wanted Cotto at catchweight because he was not willing for these big welters a big weight advantage in the ring. Cotto was happy with 145lbs. Pacquiao never asked Shane for a test?

The mindset of asking for the for the tests is a mind set of someone who know they are not the best. How would describe the mindset of the one refusing to take the test? Does this apply to all fighters or just floyd? For example, would Manny asking Cotto for a catchweight be the mind set of someone who knows they are not the best? And didn't Manny ask Shane for a test befor erecanting? Was he feeling he wasn't the best? I'm very interested in your answers.

So Floyd magically knew that would result in the number of excuses from Pac to not take the blood test?:wtf: It showed someone not interested in fighting. If you think you are the best you relish opportunities to test you skill against the best challenge. The mindset of asking for the for the tests is a mind set of someone who know they are not the best. Floyd knew if he took this fight and lost they gravy train will be over and could not generate the big bucks for easy fights anymore. He know he can make big money in easy fights so why risk that for just one big pay day. Floyd is a businessman at the risk/reward of the Pacquiao fight was not worth it.

I read the interview on f!ghthype and Mayweather NEVER said 2013 that is a lie go read it again and cut paste where Jeff say 2013. i read it. the writer wrote that jeff said it. it wasn't part of jeff's quotes though. whether he did or not i don't know and don't care (what does jeff know?)

there was an article from espn/uk and the writer said jeff expects the fight to happen 2013 or something like that. that's what these guys are referring to. I read the interview on f!ghthype and Mayweather NEVER said 2013 that is a lie go read it again and cut paste where Jeff say 2013.

I said this in December 2009, as soon as Floyd went down the blood testing road. I could see then it was a smokescreen because Floyd didn't want the fight. This fight won't happen. Maybe if Marquez pushes Pacquiao close and loses out to a close UD or SD then maybe. But as long as Pacquiao is looking great the fight will not happen. So Floyd magically knew that would result in the number of excuses from Pac to not take the blood test?:wtf:

So a 5'10 boxer with lateral movement is a boring fight but a 5'10 brawler who doesn't move isn't?It sounds like a pathetic excuse to me. So was the emphasis of Manny's rationale on height or style? If as you say its on style, wouldn't that apply to a floyd/pac fight, given floyd's style and reach? hey i'm not pacquiao or his team. just telling you the story. i'm not really interested in a pacquiao-yuri foreman discussion. most of these writers/articles just report 2nd hand stuff and it that story 1 guy ran with an article based on a misinterpretation and it got reported by a few people that way.

that originally came from manny in a filipino tv interview. it got kinda lost in translation and it got reported in that way by other media sources. from what i remember he didn't say foreman was too tall at 5'10. he said something like , "with the style he fights and him being taller , the fight could be boring." remember , this was right after the clottey fight and that embarassingly boring fight. it was never yuri foreman is too tall for him to beat/fight. it was they thought with yuri's style and height they thought it could be boring. So a 5'10 boxer with lateral movement is a boring fight but a 5'10 brawler who doesn't move isn't?It sounds like a pathetic excuse to me. So was the emphasis of Manny's rationale on height or style? If as you say its on style, wouldn't that apply to a floyd/pac fight, given floyd's style and reach?

I still believe its gonna happen. If you are floyd and you are dealing with a promoter who says Yuri Foreman at 5"10 is too tall for Manny to fight but Antonio Margarito at 5"10 isn't too tall to fight Manny, how does one rationally deal with this mentality? that originally came from manny in a filipino tv interview. it got kinda lost in translation and it got reported in that way by other media sources. from what i remember he didn't say foreman was too tall at 5'10. he said something like , "with the style he fights and him being taller , the fight could be boring." remember , this was right after the clottey fight and that embarassingly boring fight. it was never yuri foreman is too tall for him to beat/fight. it was they thought with yuri's style and height they thought it could be boring.

I still believe its gonna happen. If you are floyd and you are dealing with a promoter who says Yuri Foreman at 5"10 is too tall for Manny to fight but Antonio Margarito at 5"10 isn't too tall to fight Manny, how does one rationally deal with this mentality?

If it doesn't happen by next year, it's over. I doubt it'll be in 2013.

They bring up each others name to help promote themselves its too obvious. I said this in December 2009, as soon as Floyd went down the blood testing road. I could see then it was a smokescreen because Floyd didn't want the fight. This fight won't happen. Maybe if Marquez pushes Pacquiao close and loses out to a close UD or SD then maybe. But as long as Pacquiao is looking great the fight will not happen.

Why come into a thread and post a bold face lie? Jeff Mayweather never said anything about 2013. Damn you hate PBF or the Mayweather family that much that you get your rocks off by posting flat out lies? SMDH!! you need help! there was an article from espn/uk and the writer said jeff expects the fight to happen 2013 or something like that. that's what these guys are referring to.

Just read from Jeff Mayweather, he said the fight will happen in 2013! WTF? another 1 year vacation? Why come into a thread and post a bold face lie? Jeff Mayweather never said anything about 2013. Damn you hate PBF or the Mayweather family that much that you get your rocks off by posting flat out lies? SMDH!! you need help!

Just read from Jeff Mayweather, he said the fight will happen in 2013! WTF? another 1 year vacation? jeff mayweather doesn't know ****. floyd jr. probably hasn't even talked to his ass in years. guy is just opening his mouth about **** he doesn't know anything about. i doubt floyd sr. and roger doesn't even know what floyd plans , let alone jeff.

Floyd un-retired right before the Pac/Hatton fight, supposedly to take on Pac. That was in May of 2009. Since then, Floyd has had two fights and will be having his third next month. There are reports from Floyd's group that he could be taking on Khan next. If he will remain consistent to his fighting schedule, a possible Pac/Floyd encounter may not happen until late 2013, or sometime in 2014. That's hoping he does not choose another young and hungry fighter instead. Meanwhile, Pac is having his sixth match this November.

Just read from Jeff Mayweather, he said the fight will happen in 2013! WTF? another 1 year vacation?

A part of me thinks the fight is going to happen next may, it seems like all roads are headed for may 5th, 2012... If it doesn't, Floyd will be ridiculed for his ,"pacquioa you're next!" ... to be honest I think sone people are obssess too much with this fight, i got my own goals I'm focused on to be worried over two guys getting in the ring, as a boxing fan I want it to happen, if it doesn't oh well I feel the same way. I feel mentally exhausted from hearing about them two fighting. It gets really really boring.