I don't know, I believe Tyson had more than power and speed. He had the skills to back up all that speed and power. Not to mention quick to get in...Ali was a great out fighter who had an even better jab with overall complementing footwork.
I truly think no one could touch Tyson in his prime. Ali would of put up a hell of a fight, possibly going into mid-late rounds by keeping Tyson at bay. As well as being in and out with some of his combos but eventually Tyson would get on the inside and land a devestating 3-6 hit combo that would bend Ali over.
the laws of the universe are so well tuned it only makes sense if there was someone to tune them
dont discount darwinian expainations but dont buy it as a be all and end all of discussion
its like this
everytime in history some people have thought we know everything or maybe even 10% of everything there is to know
when in fact we don't even know 0.000000001% of what there is to know
that doesn't prove God's existence- no one can prove God exists- we can give circumstantial evidence- but ultimatley its faith
when you drop a coin you can't ever know for certain it will hit the floor
you can test it 100 times- and have a theory but ultimatley u cannot know
in the same way- you can be certain God exists but you really cannot know
its more of a feeling
science says we dont have a soul- you do believe we have a soul?
The fine tuning argument is a fallacy when u study it closely.
How do you know we dont even know 0.000000001% of what there is to know?
Science doesnt say we dont have a soul. Science deals with the physical universe.
Cus trained Tyson to use Joe Frazier as a foundation for his style. Joe mother!!!king Frazier! Do you think Ali would have a problem with that?
Was Tyson better than Frazier? If he was, it was only for a moment as Tyson's star began to fall right after unifying the titles. Tyson, a very young one, had tremendous movement. Very, very fast. Then into the body and up to the head. The man was like a buzzsaw.
Tyson/ Frazier or Tyson/ Ali would've been incredible. One would be like colliding freight trains. The other......basically like Ali/ Frazier I, perhaps ending with an early KO.
Did u say Cus based Tysons style on Frazier?
Coz he didnt. Patterson came way before Frazier. Cus trained him in the same way he trained Tyson.
But i agree with ur point. Tyson early, Ali late.
But my gut tells me, prime for prime, Ali had everything it took to beat Tyson. Tyson couldnt KO everyone, and Ali had an amazing chin, heart....blah, blah, blah.....etc etc.
Cus trained Tyson to use Joe Frazier as a foundation for his style. Joe mother!!!king Frazier! Do you think Ali would have a problem with that?
Was Tyson better than Frazier? If he was, it was only for a moment as Tyson's star began to fall right after unifying the titles. Tyson, a very young one, had tremendous movement. Very, very fast. Then into the body and up to the head. The man was like a buzzsaw.
Tyson/ Frazier or Tyson/ Ali would've been incredible. One would be like colliding freight trains. The other......basically like Ali/ Frazier I, perhaps ending with an early KO.
Tyson would have made Ali look like a child.
See how easy that is?
Just...switch the names around.
This has been debated for decades now.
Thanks for all the facts, reasons, statistics that back up your point AND for reminding us that it will never be settled.
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