Agbeko>>>>>Mares all mother flower day!!!!!

Here's a screenshot of the e-mail reply I got back from Russell Mora this morning. Haven't seen anyone else report that they'd gotten a reply, and I have a feeling he's just sending the same response to every e-mail he's gotten, but regardles...here it is: http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2049/russellmoraemail.jpg Figured everyone deserved to see his reply in lieu of him f*cking up everyone's night on Saturday. Check my signature for my write-up on the fight too, if you haven't read enough on it already. Thanks. Not to be an unforgiving jerk, but it's not like he would admit if he was just ignoring them for whatever reason he had. He wasn't just missing them, he was in plain view and ignoring them.

What a dumb fukk!!!!!!! Yeah I do agree that Mares went a little low but the numbers showed Mares outlanding Agbeko clearly... Mares will beat Agbeko and a rematch and then I want to see what your ***** ass has to say? says the biased mexican clown

Here's a screenshot of the e-mail reply I got back from Russell Mora this morning. Haven't seen anyone else report that they'd gotten a reply, and I have a feeling he's just sending the same response to every e-mail he's gotten, but regardles...here it is: http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2049/russellmoraemail.jpg Figured everyone deserved to see his reply in lieu of him f*cking up everyone's night on Saturday. Check my signature for my write-up on the fight too, if you haven't read enough on it already. Thanks.

Mares won the fight anyhow.

I disagree. Mares is the younger, fresher, faster...yes. Agbeko has a lot of success in that fight, especially 8,9,10,11. Exactly just because a fighter is faster or more athletic doesn't make him better. Sometimes people get caught up with the flash and commentators and ignore whats actually happening in the ring.

Makes sense that if there are no low blows Agbeko isn't as damaged and is fresher the whole fight. That said he seemed to walk through the low blows like they weren't hurting him. Maybe he just has a high pain threshold. I'd love to see them two fight a fair fight, I think they're a great style matchup, two aggressive boxers with skills period.

That pace is what helped him, he was too fresh for Agbeko early and Agbeko had to adjust. He tried things he never does, like laying on the ropes (which didn't work out for him). He took a long time to adjust to Mares' underrated boxing ability and speed. Multiple low blows round after round has to do something to your psyche.....i know I would have been thrown off my game. Makes sense that if there are no low blows Agbeko isn't as damaged and is fresher the whole fight. That said he seemed to walk through the low blows like they weren't hurting him. Maybe he just has a high pain threshold.

Agree but I attribute that to Mares starting so fast which is not something he usually does. In the rematch I assume he fights at his "normal" pace and stays fresh for the long haul. That pace is what helped him, he was too fresh for Agbeko early and Agbeko had to adjust. He tried things he never does, like laying on the ropes (which didn't work out for him). He took a long time to adjust to Mares' underrated boxing ability and speed. Multiple low blows round after round has to do something to your psyche.....i know I would have been thrown off my game.

I disagree. Mares is the younger, fresher, faster...yes. Agbeko has a lot of success in that fight, especially 8,9,10,11. Agree but I attribute that to Mares starting so fast which is not something he usually does. In the rematch I assume he fights at his "normal" pace and stays fresh for the long haul.

Mares was the better fighter by far, he just is too young and undisciplined to keep from hitting low. He also started too fast and tired. Maybe Agbeko's injury made him look so uninspired and bad. In a rematch Mares fixes both. If there were no low blows he would've dominated this fight. I think Mares wins the rematch for sure. I disagree. Mares is the younger, fresher, faster...yes. Agbeko has a lot of success in that fight, especially 8,9,10,11.

I dont know if this one has been posted but it is all the low blows in the fight

Agreed. A rematch is in order and a firing is in order for Mora. Mares was the better fighter by far, he just is too young and undisciplined to keep from hitting low. He also started too fast and tired. Maybe Agbeko's injury made him look so uninspired and bad. In a rematch Mares fixes both. If there were no low blows he would've dominated this fight. I think Mares wins the rematch for sure.

If this fight is refereed by a non corrupted ref, Mares is disqualified by round 8, definitelly in round 11. Easily. The rd 11 low blow kd was dq'able for sure. Especially considering mares punched him in the dik earlier in the 11th already, AND in the 10th he was warned after a punch that stopped the action.

I want to see a rematch baby. Winner fights Donaire. Agreed. A rematch is in order and a firing is in order for Mora.

like I said, a point or two in either direction seems fair to me, but really, we didn't watch a fair fight. it should really be removed from the books. If this fight is refereed by a non corrupted ref, Mares is disqualified by round 8, definitelly in round 11.

Walt, you weren't surprised to see Mares' secret weapon which they aptly named, "Testicle Assault"? :boxing: edited...........................

It was 7-5 for me which implies a close fight. I can't change the ref's point deductions and non calls or the kd. Agbeko fought back strongly and it got closer at the end.. If Mares got deducted one or two and the second kd wasn't called, it could have very well been a draw. It was a close good fight, a fight I thought Mares won more rounds in. like I said, a point or two in either direction seems fair to me, but really, we didn't watch a fair fight. it should really be removed from the books.

One punch can win you a rd, because mares did little effective work in that round. some flurries, but nothing really substantial. its funny that people are saying agbeko got schooled in the first half, but then did the schooling in the second half, but in the next breath say the fight wasn't close. I had it 7-5 Agbeko, but there were plenty of swing rounds and I gave Agbeko the 12th, which I have a feeling I may not do on rematch. Anything form one to two points either way would seem fair to be, but the referee made this an unfair fight, so it doesn't really matter what our scores were. i was surprised to see a few things: 1) Mares was much faster than Agbeko 2) Mares also tired out earlier than Agbeko 3) Agbeko never lost his shi t and was ultra classy about the reffing until the kd in 11. Not many elite boxers would act that way. Walt, you weren't surprised to see Mares' secret weapon which they aptly named, "Testicle Assault"? :boxing:

I wasn't compairing the officiating. But the competative nature of the fights. The Punisher damn near lost every round to Lara. Not the case on saturday. Agbeko would have needed to win 8 rounds to pull out a draw. He did not. I didn't say that Mares didn't go low. In my 1st post in your tread I said he probably did land about 15. The ref was bribed, no other way to explain it. That guy is on Marlon Wright status right now. Agbeko simply didn't win IMO. As far as the kd is concerned a punch landed when Agbeko fell. That's a kd. Hell he looked like he was ready to be ko'd during the 1st 3 rounds. What I'm saying is that the fight was competitive as it continued & there is no way IMO that Agbeko won 8 rounds. I 100% disagree with that bolded statement, I saw one point in the fight only where agbeko looked like he even felt a legit punch. The fact that mares glove touched him while he was already falling is why it isn't a kd imo. the punch had zero to do with him hitting the canvass. the horrific officiating made this an unfair fight IMO, that's why its worse than lara-williams. we saw what happened when those two fought because the ref wasn't actually working against one fighter. everyone knows that pwilly got his ass beat, so he got a gift decision but the entire world that saw the fight knows what would happen if they fought again.

the first kd was clearly a slip imo, that was no freakin way a kd. Agbeko won rd 4 or 5 just on that one right hand (best punch of the fight), bush, I'm about to post a video and you tell me if you still think it wasn't as many low blows as they made it seem. I already posted what rounds I scored, i'd be interested in seeing your scorecard, this was waaaaaaay worse than williams lara because the ref controlled the fight. everyone saw what happened in a fair fight with lara-williams. this was not a fair fight, not even close. I agree bro,I don't know how anybody can feel Mares clearly won a fight that Low Blows was such a huge factor..