Can Oscar return and beat Cotto?

well, ODH did very well against the man Cotto wanted to be like, Trinidad. But today, we don't know much about Oscar since the long lay-off.

The polls some people make make me laugh. Cotto got beat by margs, and will get beat by him again this year. If Oscar makes a return soon, Cotto wouldn't stand a chance.

Really? What goes through some people's heads, of course he can't.

Fine, I'll go with your "robbery theory." Even if he won the Mosley fight he still lost 5 fights on the biggest stage. I'm giving you that and Oscar still has twice as many losses as Cotto, you'll need more than "He got robbed in one fight" to help your argument especially when it was against a guy he lost to before and a guy Cotto beat. I'm not saying there aren't robberies but the Tito fight was no ones fault but Oscars. I think it should have been a draw because he ran, I think he won more rounds easily but like I said before Oscar FINDS WAYS TO LOSE HIS FIGHTS. So you admit that Oscar won more rounds, yet still lost the fight. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HwlFDE2a10Q/Sqj9jik-gpI/AAAAAAAAAN4/Ce9zLaaofVM/s400/wtf.jpg

naw im good forbes put hands on oscar in 2007 that should have never happen. oscar did good in career dont need to come back but hey maybe the time off help him

It is not my opinion it is a fact that Oscar was robbed. Go and start a thread in boxing history and put up a poll. Robbery or not? It was a robbery. So Broner beat Ponce De Leon? Ok, whatever you say. Fine, I'll go with your "robbery theory." Even if he won the Mosley fight he still lost 5 fights on the biggest stage. I'm giving you that and Oscar still has twice as many losses as Cotto, you'll need more than "He got robbed in one fight" to help your argument especially when it was against a guy he lost to before and a guy Cotto beat. I'm not saying there aren't robberies but the Tito fight was no ones fault but Oscars. I think it should have been a draw because he ran, I think he won more rounds easily but like I said before Oscar FINDS WAYS TO LOSE HIS FIGHTS.

maybe...........if margo puts another smack down on cotto,then i could see oscar beating cotto if they fought in 8 weeks time cotto would knock him out

Last I checked Tito was undefeated after the judges read the cards in that fight. Same with the Mosley fight, using your logic then Floyd has a loss on his record to Castillo, but guess what he doesn't. He won the fight and Oscar lost his its that simple. Oscar didn't get robbed against Tito he RAN the last four rounds, he LOST the fight Tito didn't win it there is a difference. I think he "won" the second Mosley fight but what I think doesn't mean sh*t I go by the outcome like a MAN does and Oscar found a way to lose that fight too. You're just pissed because your "opinion" doesn't mean jack sh*t, the RECORD is all that matters. It is not my opinion it is a fact that Oscar was robbed. Go and start a thread in boxing history and put up a poll. Robbery or not? It was a robbery. So Broner beat Ponce De Leon? Ok, whatever you say.

Oscar beat Trinidad, Mosley once, and lost a split decision to Mayweather and came the closest to beating him. The Pacquiao fight doesn't even count as far as I'm concerned. Sounds like you just go by what you hear. If you did watch those fights, you'd be on here saying that Oscar got robbed against Tito and Shane, and not that he lost his big fights. Yeah and Ponce De Leon lost to Adrien Broner, right? And Emanuel Augustus' record is a good indication of his ability to win fights, right? GTFO with that crap, you don't know jack. Last I checked Tito was undefeated after the judges read the cards in that fight. Same with the Mosley fight, using your logic then Floyd has a loss on his record to Castillo, but guess what he doesn't. He won the fight and Oscar lost his its that simple. Oscar didn't get robbed against Tito he RAN the last four rounds, he LOST the fight Tito didn't win it there is a difference. I think he "won" the second Mosley fight but what I think doesn't mean sh*t I go by the outcome like a MAN does and Oscar found a way to lose that fight too. You're just pissed because your "opinion" doesn't mean jack sh*t, the RECORD is all that matters.

All these words and you still didn't prove sh*t. Oscar lost all of his big fights, ALL OF THEM. At least Cotto came up big against Mosley, Oscar went 0-2. He also lost to Trinidad, oh and Hopkins. Oh and against Mayweather, OH and Manny. Please, Oscar is by the far the most overrated boxer in history and I'm a fan of his but be real homie. His best win is who Quartey? Chavez who had one foot in the retirement home at the time? Oscar by his own admission admits that he doesn't like to deal with boxers, or you can just go watch the Cotto/Mosley post fight interviews and see that Oscar didn't even want a piece of Cotto after that fight. Stop s*cking the cross dressers coked up d*ck and realize that Oscar was great for the sport because he was fun to watch but he came up short in all of his biggest fights this one would be no different at any point in Oscars career, he would simply find a way to lose its what he did best. Oscar beat Trinidad, Mosley once, and lost a split decision to Mayweather and came the closest to beating him. The Pacquiao fight doesn't even count as far as I'm concerned. Sounds like you just go by what you hear. If you did watch those fights, you'd be on here saying that Oscar got robbed against Tito and Shane, and not that he lost his big fights. Yeah and Ponce De Leon lost to Adrien Broner, right? And Emanuel Augustus' record is a good indication of his ability to win fights, right? GTFO with that crap, you don't know jack.

How many times do you have to be proven wrong and made a fool? It has been done countless times, like the time when you tried to strongarm me in a convo about Dempsey (another fighter among many you know nothing about) and you looked like a buffoon. Stereotype, you are nothing more than a puppet who regurgitates what he hears, and you have not watched as much boxing as you think. You are a fool and anybody who has seen your posts over the last couple years knows this. Tell me again about the lack of Dempseys greatness and how I am the "only one" who ranks him as highly as I do. Or perhaps you can give an in depth blow by blow of how Pacquiao vs Henry Armstrong would go, as you so often do. You are a total clown, but because the majority of this forum loves Miguel Cotto and Oscar has this stigma about him because of his looks, you run with the masses as per usual. Nothing new from you. Cotto at his best is a B level fighter, Oscar was an Elite. Go back and watch Cotto fight life and death with Paulie Malignaggi and struggle against a Yuri Foreman with one leg and then with a washed up bum in Mayorga. Buy the hype because that is what most of NSB has done. The sad part is, they legitimately like the guy, you just nuthug him because everybody else does. Like a blind wandering child just looking for acceptance. You're pathetic, stereotype. Cotto couldn't hang with Oscar if Oscar got into fight shape, and you will never realize that because instead of watching Oscar fight from a boxing fans point of view, you watch him with a tainted perspective that you've developed from reading what other people think. Stand down, son. I look forward to owning your stupid ass for years to come. All these words and you still didn't prove sh*t. Oscar lost all of his big fights, ALL OF THEM. At least Cotto came up big against Mosley, Oscar went 0-2. He also lost to Trinidad, oh and Hopkins. Oh and against Mayweather, OH and Manny. Please, Oscar is by the far the most overrated boxer in history and I'm a fan of his but be real homie. His best win is who Quartey? Chavez who had one foot in the retirement home at the time? Oscar by his own admission admits that he doesn't like to deal with boxers, or you can just go watch the Cotto/Mosley post fight interviews and see that Oscar didn't even want a piece of Cotto after that fight. Stop s*cking the cross dressers coked up d*ck and realize that Oscar was great for the sport because he was fun to watch but he came up short in all of his biggest fights this one would be no different at any point in Oscars career, he would simply find a way to lose its what he did best.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10329692#post10329692 It's on this page. Thanks I'll read it now, I'm interested.

You're beginning to sound like a thug. I don't want to get mixed up in an inter-poster fight, but this is a boxing site and we try to be more informative and knowledgeable rather than offensive and malicious. You just sound too heated, and Stereotype is clearly not trying to continue your feud. And if he actually HAS lost his father, you should let up, it's very unsporting otherwise, rather vile. I'd rather you told me about your Dempsey dispute. At least so it seems to me. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10329692#post10329692 It's on this page.

Did you meet up with Doc Brown and travel to a timeline where this fight took place under the stipulations we've set and witness it with your own eyes? Cool. How did the DeLorean run? Was it smooth up to 88? I met with Doc Kearns and got the lowdown on Dempsey's loaded gloves. It was an ossified elephant's foot carved into boxing glove shape. As for the DeLorean, I remember when De'Lorean came out with his brilliant new independently made car. They were beauties , and very advanced, but the stainless steel body wan't to everyone's liking, and he didn't have enough backing. In those days you couldn't fight Detroit. I think I still have the Science Illustrated or Popular Mechanic magazine where the car was on the cover and really talked about.

In his dreams..

Typical of stereotype to try and divert a flame war when he is getting owned. So you have called me a retard and have made jokes about being locked in a basement, yet you don't know if I or someone dear to me is a retard or was locked in a basement against their will and expect me to feel bad about calling you "son?" You're pathetic and you can call me daddy now. Trying to drag that sob story **** online and throw the deceased under the bus for your own personal pity. You're beginning to sound like a thug. I don't want to get mixed up in an inter-poster fight, but this is a boxing site and we try to be more informative and knowledgeable rather than offensive and malicious. You just sound too heated, and Stereotype is clearly not trying to continue your feud. And if he actually HAS lost his father, you should let up, it's very unsporting otherwise, rather vile. I'd rather you told me about your Dempsey dispute. At least so it seems to me.

How many times do you have to be proven wrong and made a fool? It has been done countless times, like the time when you tried to strongarm me in a convo about Dempsey (another fighter among many you know nothing about) and you looked like a buffoon. Stereotype, you are nothing more than a puppet who regurgitates what he hears, and you have not watched as much boxing as you think. You are a fool and anybody who has seen your posts over the last couple years knows this. Tell me again about the lack of Dempseys greatness and how I am the "only one" who ranks him as highly as I do. Or perhaps you can give an in depth blow by blow of how Pacquiao vs Henry Armstrong would go, as you so often do. You are a total clown, but because the majority of this forum loves Miguel Cotto and Oscar has this stigma about him because of his looks, you run with the masses as per usual. Nothing new from you. Cotto at his best is a B level fighter, Oscar was an Elite. Go back and watch Cotto fight life and death with Paulie Malignaggi and struggle against a Yuri Foreman with one leg and then with a washed up bum in Mayorga. Buy the hype because that is what most of NSB has done. The sad part is, they legitimately like the guy, you just nuthug him because everybody else does. Like a blind wandering child just looking for acceptance. You're pathetic, stereotype. Cotto couldn't hang with Oscar if Oscar got into fight shape, and you will never realize that because instead of watching Oscar fight from a boxing fans point of view, you watch him with a tainted perspective that you've developed from reading what other people think. Stand down, son. I look forward to owning your stupid ass for years to come. You sound a bit overheated, especially when you are not correct. Your interpretation of Cotto's recent fights may be, as i have nt seen tham , but I say the one against Foreman, and he was doing as well as he waas being allowed to . When Foreman couldn't use his leg any more he stopped the fight, but until then he was in it although well behind. What's this about Dempsey, what was the row about I must have missed it. I know somewhat of Dempsey's record, and know that Nat Fleischer, who certainly knew boxing, put him far ahead of Ali whose every fight he saw. Unfortunately many people know Dempsey only from a comeback after 3 years living it up in Hollywood.

You may have Jack Dempsey on your Avatar, but that doesn't translate his boxing knowledge into your head. You are dead wrong. Did you meet up with Doc Brown and travel to a timeline where this fight took place under the stipulations we've set and witness it with your own eyes? Cool. How did the DeLorean run? Was it smooth up to 88?

Yes even in his older age if Oscar trains hard and gets in good fight shape he will be the toughest challenge Cotto has faced and with Cotto's lack of defense and difficulty handling speed and movement, Oscar would stop Cotto. You may have Jack Dempsey on your Avatar, but that doesn't translate his boxing knowledge into your head. You are dead wrong.

Typical of stereotype to try and divert a flame war when he is getting owned. So you have called me a retard and have made jokes about being locked in a basement, yet you don't know if I or someone dear to me is a retard or was locked in a basement against their will and expect me to feel bad about calling you "son?" You're pathetic and you can call me daddy now. Trying to drag that sob story **** online and throw the deceased under the bus for your own personal pity. Those are just jokes. This is different.