Just rewatched Oscar vs Floyd.

Don't lie, we all know you didn't even know who either guy was in 2007. LOL, You took the words out of my mouth. I'm sure he knew who Oscar was or had at least heard of him but I'm 100% positive this guy didn't know who Floyd was in 2007. He learned about Floyd when they first started talking about the possible Pac/May fight in 2009.

im a fair and unbiased fan that had it tied going into the 12th round and i had oscar winning the 12th round !!!! oscar one that fight because he landed the meaningful shots and some times during the fight mayweather was running like amir khan !!!!!!!!!1 thats unfortunate. If you are fair and unbiased, that only leaves one conclusion as to why you had Oscar winning that fight. You're an idiot. Sorry man.

yeah not a close fight. At all. But HBO has their agenda and will protect it at all costs. Even when it makes them look stupid.

I was cheering for floyd to give dela hoya a beating but i was dissapointed and shock that he can't even scratch dela hoya face instead he's loosing the fight until dela hoya stop throwing his jab at the later rounds with no reason. Don't lie, we all know you didn't even know who either guy was in 2007.

2 days ago I told a guy I was a boxing fan, and he said last fight he watched he saw Floyd Mayweather run from DLH. Then he said he watched Mayweather run from DLH the whole fight and then win and he was shaking his head about it. I just laughed and said so I take it you're not a boxing fan and he of course said no. Floyd ran all over Oscar's face that night

I was cheering for floyd to give dela hoya a beating but i was dissapointed and shock that he can't even scratch dela hoya face instead he's loosing the fight until dela hoya stop throwing his jab at the later rounds with no reason.

I had it 116-112 when I watched it live in a room full of people cheering for Oscar. Every time since (probably 3 viewings), it's 117-111 Floyd. HBO blinded a lot of people that night, but not Harold Lederman and not people who know how to score fights. Shoot, I watched Mayweather-Hatton in a room full of people who gave Hatton like 3-4 rounds! I just kept shaking my head.

boring ass fight.

Please show me before 2005, where Floyd said he was willing to challenge DLH...please...if you do...I'll take what I said about Floyd avoiding DLH back. But it's gota be DLH between 99-03. And tell me Floyd, if he could duck a punching bag in Margarito, would not avoid a prime DLH, when he would have a field day with Margarito and box himself to a UD. And tell me why, when they asked Floyd if he would fight Cotto (when Cotto clearly said he would be willing to fight Mayweather) and everyone wanted the fight at the time ('07) did he not say anything about his willingness to fight Cotto....I'm waiting...

I was there live and I had it 9 rounds to 3 in favor of Mayweather. I was surprised that the judges came back with it that close. Why are you surprised? Did you see the De La Hoya/Pernell Whitaker fight or the De La Hoya/Felix Sturm fight? Whitaker not only outlanded Oscar; he scored a knockdown and still lost. Sturm put on a jabbing clinic in that fight and made Oscar look like a fool. Yet, all three judges gave Oscar the decision against Sturm by a score of 115-113. Everyone who watched or participated in the Oscar/Sturm fight (except the judges) thought Oscar lost, including Oscar himself. You could tell by the look on Oscar's face after the fight that he thought he lost. I was actually expecting Mayweather to get robbed in the Oscar fight because of previous decisions.

yeah you're right...a prime Oscar would never beat Floyd...cuz Floyd would never accept the challenge...Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito, and a prime Oscar takes those two to school. You are right. A prime Oscar would have taken Cotto and Margarito to school. However, the prime Oscar got schooled by Pernell Whitaker, who is better than both Cotto and Margarito, even though Oscar ended up getting a gift decision against Whitaker. Mayweather is a better all-around fighter than Whitaker. Considering what Whitaker did to him, if the Mayweather/Oscar fight had been fought at 147 and Mayweather had been allowed to choose his own gloves, he would have knocked Oscar out, even if Oscar was in his prime.

I was there live and I had it 9 rounds to 3 in favor of Mayweather. I was surprised that the judges came back with it that close.

Fight wasn't even close. 1. Mayweather 2. Oscar 3. Mayweather 4. Mayweather 5. Mayweather 6. Mayweather 7. Oscar 8. Mayweather 9. Mayweather 10. Mayweather 11. Mayweather 12. Oscar (pity round). 117-111. Floyd was dominant with his jab all night, and controlled the 2:30 of every round, and Oscar would throw a mostly ineffective flurry every now and then (occasionally landing a good clean shot). Anyone that scored this fight for Oscar needs a lesson on judging 101. I scored it 9-3 for Floyd, 8-4 if I wanted to be generous. The commentating in this fight was ridiculously biased with Merchant and Lampley serving as Oscar's personal cheerleaders during the entire fight. I haven't watched the fight since that night. However, there was one point in the fight which truly emphasized to me just how ineffective Oscar was and the HBO commentators did not even comment on it. If you watch the fight again, you will notice that somewhere between the 8th and 10th rounds, Floyd was laying on the ropes and Oscar threw a flurry of about 10 body punches, all of which landed on Floyd's body. Most people would go down being hit with that many body shots. However, Mayweather didn't even flinch during or after this exchange and continued to dominate the fight.

Do you think the fight would have been the same if Oscar and Floyd fought when Oscar was in his prime?

Thats literally all he did that round, Floyd clearly won that round. :lol1: I agree, I was trying to give the TS the benefit of the doubt.

Well he did say that it was a "pitty round" maybe because Oscar landed a solid shot after both threw a flurry right at the end of that round. But, I personally scored that round for Floyd. I thought Floyd had a clean sweep after the 8th round. Thats literally all he did that round, Floyd clearly won that round.

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I really don't see how Oscar won the 12th. Well he did say that it was a "pitty round" maybe because Oscar landed a solid shot after both threw a flurry right at the end of that round. But, I personally scored that round for Floyd. I thought Floyd had a clean sweep after the 8th round.

Actually filling up a weight class could have something to do with prime depending on a fighter and his circumstances. OK? That's why you're example of Floyd is null, How so? because while it may not relate to his prime, it does relate to Oscar's. In what way? Is there a reason why it only relates to Oscar and not Floyd? Any logical reason? Of course, you're the idiot who believes DLH was already in his prime by his first fight at 147, Yes I do believe. You still haven't shown anything that indicates he wasn't. when in reality he didn't even know what to expect at that weight. And? What does that mean? So every time a fighter moves up in weight he isn't prime anymore because he doesn't know what to expect? Is that the logic for determining prime? The truth is he was in his prime by the time he fought Tito Yes, he was. No one is saying different. based on a few simple things. He was physically in the same great shape if not better than when he fought Whitaker, and he had more experience (wins) under his belt: key ingredients in determining prime. But, none of that means that he wasn't prime when he fought Whitaker. Because, he already had divisional titles, WINS against HOF'ers, title holders, top prime contenders, P4P level fighters. All that falls under experience no? So how was he not prime when he fought Whitaker again? And again you mention Oscar's stamina, when in fact a prime Oscar would do everything better than the '07 Oscar: speed, power, footwork, reflexes, etc. (see, I'm not just talking about his stamina.) And I mentioned this before so reading comprehension may not be your forte. So what's your argument here? That a prime Oscar could beat a faded version of Oscar? if so, I agree. Yes he would. My argument is that a prime Floyd would beat a prime Oscar. Anything Oscar could do Floyd could do it much better. And it's known that Oscar didn't prepare himself fully for the first Mosley fight (I thought everyone knew that.) He was busy with his music career if you didn't know. And that is exactly why he clowned with Mosley in their 2nd fight but was robbed sadly, like against tito. Right he wasn't focus in the first Mosley fight. Yea that is what it was right. And, yea he sure did clown Mosley in the rematch...Did you even watch the fight? Either you didn't and just going by myth or you do not know how to use the "clown" when it comes to describing what happened in a fight. The only thing time you proved me wrong was when Mayweather did indeed challenge Oscar and I took back what I said in that regard. In everything else, your counter arguments consisted of neglecting points you couldn't refute, and just plain ignorance. Don't believe me? Go read our little debate from the start, but then again, you would probably take the same approach. And quite honestly, I've wasted enough time with you. From here on out I'm not going to bother with that crap you have to write regarding this topic. So you can go **** yourself. Of course you not. Because, you can't lets be real...So bowing out now to save face would be the smartest thing you have done in this thread so far. LOL @ me neglecting points I couldn't refute...You haven't made any points everything you have said. i have refuted. So yea maybe you're the one that needs to back and re-read this thread. Btw, I did a little poll about Oscar's prime. The two choices were: vs Whitaker, or Trinidad. The result: 15-4 for Trinidad. I already know what you might say tho. Either you'll say in a sarcastic tone, "Oh Wow! what a large number of participants you had, enough to come to a conclusion." Or you might take the stance that the 15 that voted for Trinidad don't know jack about boxing and the 4 are boxing gurus. Again I don't want to bother with you anymore so I don't care what you say. Just thought I might fill you in. So 15 people think Oscar was in his prime for Tito? Yea I agree with that. And, 4 people think Oscar was in his prime for Whitaker? Yea I agree with that. So basically you made a poll where both answers were the correct answer...Good Job :fing02: :lol1:

I haven't seen this fight since it aired, just wasn't inclined enough to watch it twice. As far as I remember, and forgive me if my memory doesn't serve me correctly...but Floyd landed the cleaner shots, and did what he was supposed to. Oscar on the other hand, too flat footed, too slow, too wide, not enough pressure, when he did pressure he was ineffective. Oscar, as far as I remember, produced a decent amount of volume but his punches looked soft and unflinching. To imagine this fight sold 2.4 (right?), smh.