Tomer (New York, NY)
The WBC is obligated to strip the belt if the champion doesn't fight their mandatories, not 'the biggest fight available'. Also, unless Bradley surrendered the belt in writing, he technically was still a 140 lber even if he has eyes towards Pacquiao and Mayweather (as does pretty much everyone else).
Dan Rafael
(2:01 PM)
Of course. They applied things inconsistently. Go look and see how often Oscar made a mandatory when he was champion? RARELY. How often did he go more than 6 months between fights. The wretched WBC is a joke and the promoters are in bed with them.
Dan Rafael
(1:56 PM)
And also -- the wretched WBC was ready and willing to sanction Morales-Barrios, as horrific a title bout as they could muster. I have no real issue with Morales getting an opportunity, but make it legit. Barrios was a JOKE. He is not ranked by the wretched WBC (amazingly), had not fought for 11 months and had never fought in the division. So he was going to get the show over the guys signed for a final eliminator? Seriously? Matthysse getting the fight makes it better but the fact is him and Morales lost their last fights. Doesn't mean I don't want to see them fight. I like that fight a lot. I will enjoy it. My point is it should not be for a vacant title that should never have been vacated in the first place.
Juan Castruita (San Diego, CA)
Dan, so what should the WBC have done? I'm not defending them, but they had a champ who didn't take the biggest fight available, wasn't going to defend his belt, was moving into a different weight class, and wanted to fight there. Why NOT strip it? Although, I have to concur, the Olusegun - Cheebah fight should have been the title fight.
Dan Rafael
(1:54 PM)
Because they didnt follow their own rules. Bradley was under no obligation to fight Khan. I have said a thousand times he should have taken the deal. BUT BUT BUT it was not a mandatory. So the wretched WBC wasnt forcing that fight. His mandatory is not even set and nowhere near due. As for his promotional issues, that is not the concern of the wretched WBC until such time as his mandatory is due. For a guy to go six months with no fight is NOTHING. MANY MANY MANY MANY guys who have held wretched WBC titles have gone WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY longer than that without a peep. Promotional issues can be solved at a moment's notice. Look at Top Rank and Donaire? One day battling and then it got settled and he'll be back in October. So this inactivity/promotional stuff is all a BS smokescreen for the wretched WBC to hand Morales a shot at a belt. Simple as that. At worst, Golden Boy conspired wit the wretched WBC. At best, it is a hypocrite.
That is unless, GBP did what I think they did, which is lobby the Morales-friendly WBC to make this happen. Think about it, before WBC even stripped Bradley, Morales was already lined up for the shot.
This is a possibility, but honestly I don't think the WBC needed to be lobbied to strip Bradley and line Morales up, it's obvious that Sulaiman wants Morales to hold that belt, but at leas GBP is giving us Morales vs. Matthyse for that belt instead of trying to pass off Barrios or god forbid Crolla as the opponents. I think Bradley should sue the WBC over this ****, and should probably win, but since we all know that the sanctioning body are corrupt and full of **** and their belts are devalued on a daily basis, at least we have fans get what should be a war between two guys near the top of the division for the strap as fraudulent as it is. I give GBP props for putting on a good fight and a good card and since it's sanctioned as a title fight they may as well promote it as one.
Six months? Every fighter goes inbetween six months nowadays between fighting. WBC rules say that they have a year before they are stripped. The only reason Bradley was stripped is because they don't like Bradley. They never have. They've always tried to strip him and have. It's ridiculous.
Erik Morales is also Mexican and they favor mexicans. It's ridiculous.
it astounds me when ppl say bradley should be stripped. why? because he refused a fight? that is his right last time i checked. there was u just reason for stipping bradley and then giving a title shot to erik morales.
Bradley deserved to be stripped,He hasint defended his bel in six months
and had no plans to do so either.I dont see nothing wrong with morales
fighting matt for the vacant title.The other fighters in the wbc rankings
dont deserve a shot at the vacant title.
Six months? Every fighter goes inbetween six months nowadays between fighting. WBC rules say that they have a year before they are stripped. The only reason Bradley was stripped is because they don't like Bradley. They never have. They've always tried to strip him and have. It's ridiculous.
Erik Morales is also Mexican and they favor mexicans. It's ridiculous.
That is unless, GBP did what I think they did, which is lobby the Morales-friendly WBC to make this happen. Think about it, before WBC even stripped Bradley, Morales was already lined up for the shot.
or soto the coward
Golden Boy didn't strip Bradley, the WBC did. Bradley being stripped is total bull**** IMO but the fact that the WBC is sanctioning Morales vs Matthyse as a title fight isn't Golden Boy's fault, they'd be nuts not to use the fact that it is a title fight as a way to market it. Any opinion to the contrary is absurd, bash the WBC all you want but don't bash Golden Boy for putting together a good fight and promoting it for what it is.
That is unless, GBP did what I think they did, which is lobby the Morales-friendly WBC to make this happen. Think about it, before WBC even stripped Bradley, Morales was already lined up for the shot.
Golden Boy didn't strip Bradley, the WBC did. Bradley being stripped is total bull**** IMO but the fact that the WBC is sanctioning Morales vs Matthyse as a title fight isn't Golden Boy's fault, they'd be nuts not to use the fact that it is a title fight as a way to market it. Any opinion to the contrary is absurd, bash the WBC all you want but don't bash Golden Boy for putting together a good fight and promoting it for what it is.
Thanks u sir
Golden Boy didn't strip Bradley, the WBC did. Bradley being stripped is total bull**** IMO but the fact that the WBC is sanctioning Morales vs Matthyse as a title fight isn't Golden Boy's fault, they'd be nuts not to use the fact that it is a title fight as a way to market it. Any opinion to the contrary is absurd, bash the WBC all you want but don't bash Golden Boy for putting together a good fight and promoting it for what it is.
so hes trying to piss oscar off to get attention
Not necessarily, but if Rafael says something incendiary towards Golden Boy and Oscar responds, it will escalate. Bob Arum by contrast is rarely, if ever on his Twitter and isn't going to engage in any back-and-forth Twitter wars.
I think the biggest reason Rafael's bashing of Golden Boy gets more attention is because de la Hoya is very active on Twitter, fueling the back-and-forth jibing. I don't think Rafael is biased, he tends to give equal ink to all promotions.
so hes trying to piss oscar off to get attention
I think the biggest reason Rafael's bashing of Golden Boy gets more attention is because de la Hoya is very active on Twitter, fueling the back-and-forth jibing. I don't think Rafael is biased, he tends to give equal ink to all promotions.
you honestly think top rank , gbp , and them don't control the belts?
you don't think they talk to the crooked commissions?
how the hell do you think canelo and chavez jr. who has done nothing got a belt?
Wbc favors mexicans,Gp and top rank have alot of mexicans fighters.
Each belts favors there own certain fighters.Like the ibf favors blacks.
Top rank and gp dont got alot african fighters.All belts are shlt.
Bradley deserved to be stripped,He hasint defended his bel in six months
and had no plans to do so either.I dont see nothing wrong with morales
fighting matt for the vacant title.The other fighters in the wbc rankings
dont deserve a shot at the vacant title.
This post is loaded with so much wrong it's not even funny...
Well dan must be an idiot,Cause i learned along time ago the gp are no
different then other promoters.Gb cant control the belts,Its on the belts
for makng these things happen.
you honestly think top rank , gbp , and them don't control the belts?
you don't think they talk to the crooked commissions?
how the hell do you think canelo and chavez jr. who has done nothing got a belt?
Bradley deserved to be stripped,He hasint defended his bel in six months
and had no plans to do so either.I dont see nothing wrong with morales
fighting matt for the vacant title.The other fighters in the wbc rankings
dont deserve a shot at the vacant title.
you can't strip a guy for 6 months.
especially if he has no mandatory due.
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