Watching Vitali ruin the career of yet another cuban heavyweight and pretty much run another olympian out of professional boxing, I got to thinking who could withstand his power over the course of a fight and mount any type of offensive game. Seeing Solis take a shot and go down clutching his leg, seeing Briggs get his arm broke trying to block a Vitali punch, seeing Lennox Lewis now stumble through sentences like Forest Gump after a labotomy, never seeing Sanders or Hide or so many of his opponents again in a decent fight...could anyone? It reminded me of what Wlad said about the last time he sparred Vitali...
Wlad: Vitali broke my leg once. How bad is it when you break an opponent's leg in the ring!
Thats just what he does. Theres never been a more dominant fighter. His punches to your face...break your leg. Thats like superman **** right there.
So true... H2H Vitaly beats anyone in a boxing ring, anyone in history that has ever lived, lives, or will live. Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Louis, Marcianno, doesn't matter...
Yet he couldn't beat an old Lennox Lewis. :pat:
Wait, youre bringing up an amateur kickboxing fight that was held on a wrestling mat 20 years ago...This is how amazing Vitali is, his haters can only bring up amateur kickboxing fights that may or may not have happened as the most legitimate article on it at the time stated, "“Our fourth Gold came from Pele Reid when, after some superb fights, he met Klitschko of CIS (Russia) in the finals of the 89 plus category...an opponent even taller than Pele! With little trouble, Pele KO’d the huge Russian in round two with a reverse spinning kick to take the gold.”
Yep...no first name, calling him Russian...sounds legit to me...but thanks for proving my point that Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant boxer of all time, only criticism people can even come up with is that he once lost as practically a teenager in another sport. Whats next, are you going to say he once lost to shaq in a game of 1 on 1 basketball?
So true... H2H Vitaly beats anyone in a boxing ring, anyone in history that has ever lived, lives, or will live. Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Louis, Marcianno, doesn't matter...
Funnily enough, his opponents are often never able to produce a top quality performance after he beats them. Or before he beats them for that matter.
Lol, fucking Clegg!! :rofl:
Once you're taught or used to fight a certain style it's hard to change it..I think he generates more power when he punches from the waist line..but he's keeping his right hand up when it's needed which is important..lot's of fighters fight with their left hand down.And that cut he received in the lewis fight was rather bizzare because what really caused the cut was from the thumb portion of Lennox glove pressing against the bone portion above Vitali's eye.
Yeah Vitali still has a good "defence" because it has been a while since Ive seen him caught with clean punches in any fight. We have to go as far back as Lewis and Sanders since Vitali has actually been in a hard fight. I think a reaosn for his longevity is that he hasnt taken alot of big punches in his career and thats down to being hard to hit despite an open guard.
Vitali had a number of cuts vs Lewis inside the mouth above and below the brow. His face was just a mess. It was as if he was using "all or bust" tactics. Didnt seem to have a 12 round strategy as you cant fight face first round after round against a guy like Lewis. Vitali might not have needed a great defence if he ended it early but as the rounds went on he needed to start blocking punches but he just kept trying to walk through them and was getting facial damage from the volume of shots. I do think that was the one night Vitali need to have his hands up as he may have outlasted the older man if he didnt have those cuts. Knowing Vitali though he fights everyone the same way and would have doen the same in a return.
Vitali Klitschko is a very good fighter. But who is the best opponent he ever defeated? Sanders? Briggs? Hell, it may be Tomasz Adamek (we'll soon see). Adamek is more accomplished than anyone Vitali has beaten to date. If you're a two-time heavyweight champ, approaching 40, and your best win comes against Tomasz Adamek ... well ... that says it all. Doesn't it?
I dont want to turn this into a Lewis - Vitali thread but if he learnt to keep his hands up he may have lasted abit longer vs Lewis. He'd been getting away with those bad habbits for years and has done since but when you step up in class you need a defence.
He prods with his jab and circles with it if he cant get round the guard, He also feints alot and makes funny faces when leaning back. He does all this consistently but what you'd never see consistently from him was a solid tight defence . He could learn abit from his younger bro in that respect but I think everyone prefers Vitali as the tougher "come to fight" brother and if he hasnt utilised a guard yet then he isnt going to start now.
Once you're taught or used to fight a certain style it's hard to change it..I think he generates more power when he punches from the waist line..but he's keeping his right hand up when it's needed which is important..lot's of fighters fight with their left hand down.And that cut he received in the lewis fight was rather bizzare because what really caused the cut was from the thumb portion of Lennox glove pressing against the bone portion above Vitali's eye.
Lewis won on an illegal punch, it was a hold and hit, anyone with even a tiny bit of boxing knowledge considers that a dq win for Vitali. Lewis won just as much as Diaz beat Malignaggi or Pwill beat Lara. It might say so in the record books, but real fans know what happened.
Yeah and Haye beat Wlad because of all Wlad's holding.
I dont want to turn this into a Lewis - Vitali thread but if he learnt to keep his hands up he may have lasted abit longer vs Lewis. He'd been getting away with those bad habbits for years and has done since but when you step up in class you need a defence.
He prods with his jab and circles with it if he cant get round the guard, He also feints alot and makes funny faces when leaning back. He does all this consistently but what you'd never see consistently from him was a solid tight defence . He could learn abit from his younger bro in that respect but I think everyone prefers Vitali as the tougher "come to fight" brother and if he hasnt utilised a guard yet then he isnt going to start now.
Lewis won on an illegal punch, it was a hold and hit, anyone with even a tiny bit of boxing knowledge considers that a dq win for Vitali. Lewis won just as much as Diaz beat Malignaggi or Pwill beat Lara. It might say so in the record books, but real fans know what happened.
Too bad he couldn't do that against Pele Reid, who KHTFO.
Wait, youre bringing up an amateur kickboxing fight that was held on a wrestling mat 20 years ago...This is how amazing Vitali is, his haters can only bring up amateur kickboxing fights that may or may not have happened as the most legitimate article on it at the time stated, "“Our fourth Gold came from Pele Reid when, after some superb fights, he met Klitschko of CIS (Russia) in the finals of the 89 plus category...an opponent even taller than Pele! With little trouble, Pele KO’d the huge Russian in round two with a reverse spinning kick to take the gold.”
Yep...no first name, calling him Russian...sounds legit to me...but thanks for proving my point that Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant boxer of all time, only criticism people can even come up with is that he once lost as practically a teenager in another sport. Whats next, are you going to say he once lost to shaq in a game of 1 on 1 basketball?
I dont want to turn this into a Lewis - Vitali thread but if he learnt to keep his hands up he may have lasted abit longer vs Lewis. He'd been getting away with those bad habbits for years and has done since but when you step up in class you need a defence.
He prods with his jab and circles with it if he cant get round the guard, He also feints alot and makes funny faces when leaning back. He does all this consistently but what you'd never see consistently from him was a solid tight defence . He could learn abit from his younger bro in that respect but I think everyone prefers Vitali as the tougher "come to fight" brother and if he hasnt utilised a guard yet then he isnt going to start now.
He's one of your favourite fighters, but you've only just noticed that he doesn't always keep his hands up?[/QUOTE
He is now not my fav but one of my favs,I haven't really been following the HW division,lately I've been watching videos of both brothers..I think wladimir is the more classical boxer while vitali relies more on his power which makes him more entertaining..you never know when the KO is gonna come with him.