I just watched 5 of Nonito's most recent fights and I'm convinced. Donaire has the goods, gifted with speed, skill and a natural instinct that rivals that of Floyd Mayweather.
In your opinion, who is the more gifted fighter?
Darchinyan and Montiel are in a higher class than those two in my opinion.
Two good fighters are better than two HOF fighters who at the time they fought floyd were lineal champs. This opinion casts serious doubt regarding your opinion of donaire's skills.
Neither Hernandez or Castillo were lineal champs.
Darchinyan and Montiel are just as worthy of the HOF as Hernandez or Castillo.
Darchinyan, was blitzing through the fly-weight division like a prime tyson and Donaire KHTFO.
Montiel a classy operator just KOed the Hasegawa and was the divisional no.1 and Donaire stopped him in 2 a guy that has never been stopped before though he has fought many top opponents.
Herndanez was past his best, Castillo was in good form, but Floyd's performances against Castillo were not great.
Darchinyan and Montiel are in a higher class than those two in my opinion.
Donaire show great awarness, exceptional learner in a fight. When watching a fight I can see what a fighter does wrong and what he needs to do. Donaire can work that out before I can whilst fighting.
You see him throw feints, does it a couple of times, learns what his opponent does then bang, counters their move.
Darchinyan and Montiel are in a higher class than those two in my opinion.
Two good fighters are better than two HOF fighters who at the time they fought floyd were lineal champs. This opinion casts serious doubt regarding your opinion of donaire's skills.
Floyd had power at the lower weights. Very good power.
nothing like donaire power
real talk
he was a beast at 130
but donaire is a superhuman in terms of punching power p4p
Floyd never fought below 130, donaire is fighting at 118. When nonito knocks people out at 130 and leaves them in a state then i will admit i'm wrong.
That's what I'm most interested in finding out. Donaire seems gifted at the lighter weights where he bully's naturally smaller fighters and walks through their punches, which just so happen to be clean and flush.
Mayweather is more gifted by landslides just by the fact that he also was able to knock out and stop opponents at lighter weight, but also being able to outbox his bigger foes.
Check Siderenko's face after 3 rounds.
A masterclass performance, only in 2nd gear.
Donaire has said he is willing to fight anybody, and he wants to, a far cry from Floyd.
Any of the top fighters at 118lbs can fight Donaire, they just have to want it.
Floyds at the pinnacle he chooses who wants to fight he's who everybody shooting at he's the hunted not the hunter; when he was coming up he fought any and everybody. Nonito is in hunter mode.
Floyd is one of the only fighters in history who throw maybe 30 punches a round and have his opponents menatlly fatigue by round 4. Look at Marquez and Shanes face from round 4 on they knew the fight was over it was nothing they can do to win.
Check Siderenko's face after 3 rounds.
A masterclass performance, only in 2nd gear.
Donaire has said he is willing to fight anybody, and he wants to, a far cry from Floyd.
Any of the top fighters at 118lbs can fight Donaire, they just have to want it.
Floyd is one of the only fighters in history who throw maybe 30 punches a round and have his opponents menatlly fatigue by round 4. Look at Marquez and Shanes face from round 4 on they knew the fight was over it was nothing they can do to win.
Yea, Nonito was always a bit of a badass. But once he started using Contes, he probably became the hardest p4p puncher in boxing. He literally dented Montiels skull, knocked the guy out cold.
Knocking people out cold, and denting skulls at 118 pounds is pretty unbelievable.
Floyd never fought below 130, donaire is fighting at 118. When nonito knocks people out at 130 and leaves them in a state then i will admit i'm wrong.
It's p4p punching power we are talking about.
Floyd is the greatest of this generation! People tend to forget that in the lower weight classes floyd was a huge puncher. So i'd say donaire aint more powerful then floyd in the lower weight classes there punch power was comparable.
Skills wise, floyd is ahead by a long way.
Have you seen the state of the fighters after then get hit by a monter punch from Donaire?
Floyd gets his KOs from cumulative punching.
Nowhere near Donaire's class at punch power even at the lower weight classes.
Career HL,
I'd say no.
at 4 min mark - i was there ringside in SF for that jesus chaves fight. you would have NEVER guessed that pacquiao, who fought on the undercard would turn into the world beater that he did from his performance that night.
If Donaire eventually cleans up 126(where he'll really need those skills against some bigger fighters)...
I'll think about it..
126 for Donaire is like 147lbs for Floyd, and Floyd has not cleaned up ther, not even done some light dusting.
Nonito DOnaire is a very talented and gifted fighter. To put him in floyd class, especially using the sample the thread starter did, simply isn''t valid.
That floyd made you conclude two HOF lineal champions who made mutiple successful defenses of their titles were not at their best (Genaro was old bust JLC, wow) when fighting floyd indicates Nonito has not yet reached his level.
Herndanez was past his best, Castillo was in good form, but Floyd's performances against Castillo were not great.
Darchinyan and Montiel are in a higher class than those two in my opinion.
Donaire show great awarness, exceptional learner in a fight. When watching a fight I can see what a fighter does wrong and what he needs to do. Donaire can work that out before I can whilst fighting.
You see him throw feints, does it a couple of times, learns what his opponent does then bang, counters their move.