If Sanders and Wladimir rematched 1 year from their first fight, who would win?

My opinion is that Wlad Klitschko still wasn't at his absolute best at that time. He didn't perfect his Big Man style. So anything could've happened. However I can with confidence say that the 34 year old Wlad Klitschko of today beats the breaks off of the Corrie Sanders from the past. i think this is the consensus I was expecting from this thread. That said, Sanders would always have a chance against Wlad, not so much because of his power but because of his chin and hand speed. He can take punishment to get inside and has quick enough hands to catch Wlad. Of course Wlad is the prohibitive favorite, and justly so.

Also beat his poor wife in drunken rages. Wlad would never hit a woman. Louis never beat his wife in "drunken rages" as you suggest. Get you facts straight. And you have no idea if Wlad would or has ever hit a women. And none of that changes the fact fact Louis gave HIS money to a just cause. What about his unfair public comments about Joe Frazier being an "Uncle Tom" caused Joe's children to be tormented by the other children in school? Has Wladimir ever done anything that low to an opponent? What does youthful indiscretion have to do with his commitment to world peace? We're discussing charitable acts by past heavyweights. Long after his career ended? When he was an active boxer, he didn't do anything like that. What does that matter? Giving back for the betterment of others is what counts. The Klitschkos seem to find time to do a lot of charity work, despite being active boxers - including helping kids who have drug problems, as you can read about in the link below. I don't doubt they do and they should be applauded for that. But don't try and put them on a pedestal for it when many others have done as much and more. Jack seems like he was a great guy. Boxers often help out other boxers. He did some decent things but he has faults like any other fighter, professionaly and in his personal life. But the Klitschkos have helped a LOT OF PEOPLE by funding schools in Namibia, building boxing gyms in Ukraine, and many other charitable activities. And they have created The Klitschko Foundation to help kids in the Ukraine: http://www.klichkofund.org.ua/ Like I said, thats wonderful. But your claim of Wlad being the greatest because of his philanthropy is ridiculous. If you're going to recognoze him than you should be recognizing others instead of trying to put them down to make your hero look better.

Sanders one punches that china chinned fairy

Also beat his poor wife in drunken rages. Wlad would never hit a woman. What about his unfair public comments about Joe Frazier being an "Uncle Tom" caused Joe's children to be tormented by the other children in school? Has Wladimir ever done anything that low to an opponent? Long after his career ended? When he was an active boxer, he didn't do anything like that. The Klitschkos seem to find time to do a lot of charity work, despite being active boxers - including helping kids who have drug problems, as you can read about in the link below. Jack seems like he was a great guy. Boxers often help out other boxers. But the Klitschkos have helped a LOT OF PEOPLE by funding schools in Namibia, building boxing gyms in Ukraine, and many other charitable activities. And they have created The Klitschko Foundation to help kids in the Ukraine: http://www.klichkofund.org.ua/ this guy sh1ts on every other fighter and acts like the klits are saints

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Exactly where have I ever said he does? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=424823&highlight=Wladimir In some other ways he's probably the greatest heavyweight champion though: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165260&highlight=Wladimir So using other peoples money to donate to charity "probably" makes him the greatest heavyweight champion? :lol1: Joe Louis donated all his purses during WWII from exhibitions to his country. Ali has traveled the world in the name of world peace. George Chuvalo still travels and preaches the danger of drugs to children after losing 3 sons and a wife. Jack Dempsey use to give a broke and blind Sam Langford money to live, held benefits for him and paid for his funeral. The list goes on and on, so spare us your nuthuggery. :nonono:

How many men sodomized you in prison, Larry? Most definitely. sanders definitely sodomized wlad i know that 4sho,make all the excuses you want but he fukked that boy

Wladimir would even have beaten Sanders the night he lost, had he not been so over-confident and if he had trained to fight a hard-punching southpaw. At that time Wlad was becoming very frustrated by his sh1t promoter Peter Kohl (Universum) not being able to land him a big fight with a high-profile opponent like Holyfield, Lewis or Tyson. Wlad had expressed a desire to fight those guys back in 2000-2001, but the fights never happened during the next couple of years. It must have been becoming difficult for Wlad to motivate himself to fight guys like Shufford and Botha. Sanders had been avoided by others for a reason (low reward, high risk) - and I don't think Wlad realized the risk he was taking, he underestimated Sanders. Before the fight, Wlad had a disinterested, bored "ho-hum" look on his face. damnn ya'll got an excuse for everything...lmfao

C'mon Jab thats not fair is it, his attribute of size and power comes with some weaknesses too and he uses what he has to the best of his ability and also compensates for what he doesn't. It doesn't matter how he is winning just that he finds a way to keep winning. I agree. And as I've said before he has earned a place within the top 20 all time heavyweight because of his dominance and longevity with time to keep climbing the ladder. But he doesn't compare to many other greats h2h as Tunney and others would have us believe. Im sorry but the skilled greats of the past aren't the jokers today who don't know how to get inside the jab and they fought at a greater pace. Wlad is a contender in every era, but that doesn't mean he beats the best of the best.

Did you watch the 12th round of Haye-Wlad? Wlad was stunned by a haymaker, how did he respond? The Brewster fight was very different than the Sanders fight - it was more like the Purrity fight. Merchant even commented that Wlad was throwing too much, trying to KO Brewster, and he might gas again. Wlad dominated both Purrity and Brewster up until the last minute of each fight. Wlad doesn't fear being KOed like he was by Sanders and he doesn't mind mixing it up. He's worried about gassing like he did against against Brewster and Purrity, that's why he's hesitant by times. A man his size needs to pace himself, that's the lesson he learned from the Purrity and Brewster fights and why he modified his style. Every time Haye got close Wlad would octopus him. And if Wlad is afraid of gassing you shouldn't be comparing him wit ATG's. He can't mix it up because he is afraid to gas out and that is why he modified his style. Lol, brilliant defense Tunney, brilliant!!! :wank:

If he came in shape, he would have a chance, maybe like 40% chance. If he came into the fight at 230lbs like he did agains Vitali, Wlad would have murdered him.

Wlad still would have the same trouble with Sanders.

Wladimir would even have beaten Sanders the night he lost, had he not been so over-confident and if he had trained to fight a hard-punching southpaw. At that time Wlad was becoming very frustrated by his sh1t promoter Peter Kohl (Universum) not being able to land him a big fight with a high-profile opponent like Holyfield, Lewis or Tyson. Wlad had expressed a desire to fight those guys back in 2000-2001, but the fights never happened during the next couple of years. It must have been becoming difficult for Wlad to motivate himself to fight guys like Shufford and Botha. Sanders had been avoided by others for a reason (low reward, high risk) - and I don't think Wlad realized the risk he was taking, he underestimated Sanders. Before the fight, Wlad had a disinterested, bored "ho-hum" look on his face. So why did he commit the same mistake against Brewster a year later? Make all the excuses you want, but Wlad simply can't mix it up and fight under pressure and that is exactly the reason he fights as he does now. Smart move, just not exciting.

He can beat any HW from any era imo fatso Your opinion is null and void after you ran out of the thread the other day getting your ass handed to you like every other nonobjective nuthugger. You have a pleasant day though! :fing02: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498385&page=2

sanders didnt just stop him he beat him pillar to post

13 months later brewster sparked him out right

The assumption here is that rather than fight Vitali, Corrie would rematch Wlad. I am curious to see what boxingscene thinks about this. The same thing would have happened. Wlad had not yet mastered his frightened style of jab, jab, grab and was stopped again by Brewster 13 months later and put down by DaVaryl Williamson shortly after that. As talented as he is, he just isn't very good at fighting under pressure and is afraid to get hit while mixing it up. That said...he has mastered his new style (as boring as it is) and uses it successfully to beat today's best heavyweights.

that shot he almost floored vitali with wouldve ko'd wlad

differant year..same result