Dan Rafael: "Floyd sees Victor Ortiz as not even remotely in his league"

I recently went to an interview for a fire fighter position... I was nervous as faack, so I had cotton mouth and drank lots of water in front of the interview panel. I WAS NERVOUS!! I saw floyd drinking water like a mofo and playing with the bottle, looking pretty uncomfortable. just saying. :dance:

What makes you think Mayweather can't KO Ortiz? If Mayweather puts on a dominant performance he can definitely wear Ortiz down take his heart and dump him on the ground later in the fight. BTW...Floyd doesn't underestimate Ortiz. He's just confident that his a-game will be way too much for Ortiz to handle. Floyd by TKO round 9 Floyd hasn't had a KO since Hatton and he was a guy begging to be punched in the face over and over. He also moved up in weight and it still took Floyd 11 rounds to do it and he couldn't even KO Marquez. He isn't about to KO someone who is going to weigh 155-160 on fight night, its just not going to happen. Floyd has what I like to call "stay back" power, in the sense that when he hits you it makes you think twice about coming in, he doesn't have KO power. I can't even think of one WW he's actually KO'd... I may be wrong, but I can't think of a WW he KO'd. (Moving up to WW like Hatton doesn't count.)

dude, i answered that ? ages ago. keep up, i can keep up with u. ive watched every hbo fight cotto had and then some, and every fight mayweather had. can u keep up with me? so when u fancy going back and proving me wrong, ill be there waiting. BWAHAHAHA!!!! You've seen every HBO fight!? Oh man what a huge fan you are, you watch all the HBO fights. You made yourself look worse than I ever could, but can I be with the cool kids? I watch HBO boxing too!

I dont think Floyd views any active fighter as being in his league

To anyone who thinks Ortiz will offer Floyd some kind of threat, take a look at his record. Total fights = 33 Total 12 rd. fights(title fights) = 5 Total 12 rd. fights at LWW = 4 ; Wins 3, 1 loss ******W 9/13/08 Roberto Arrieta (16 losses) ******W 12/6/08 Jeffrey Resto (3 losses) ******W 4/7/09 Mike Arnoutis (7 losses) ******L/TKO 7/27/09 Marcos Maidana Total 12 rds. fights at WW = 1 ******W/UD 4/16/11 Andre Berto (w/ 8 12 rd. fights) Compare that to: Miguel Cotto; 12 rd. fights = 24 Floyd Mayweather; 12 rd. fights = 23 Manny Pacquiao; 12 rd. fights = 34 Summary: Ortiz has only 5 title fights total, 4 at LWW with 3/1 record, and 1 at WW against the paper titlist Berto. His first defense at WW is against Floyd.

Floyd saying he isn't in his league is exactly what makes Floyd a dumbass, but I'm done until you answer my question from the Cotto thread. All I did was ask a question and you said you would ignore me, ducking me like your favorite fighter you've learned well. dude, i answered that ? ages ago. keep up, i can keep up with u. ive watched every hbo fight cotto had and then some, and every fight mayweather had. can u keep up with me? so when u fancy going back and proving me wrong, ill be there waiting.

does floyd think anyone is in his league??? smh...dude, ive never heard floyd say a fighter stood a chance against him. i dont get why ppl like u, who dont follow the guy think u can just make ignorant comments and skirt like no1 will call u out on it. floyd has never thought a person hes fought was in his league. that will never change, whether he says they are dangerous or not. Floyd saying he isn't in his league is exactly what makes Floyd a dumbass, but I'm done until you answer my question from the Cotto thread. All I did was ask a question and you said you would ignore me, ducking me like your favorite fighter you've learned well.

Its one thing to say he won't hurt me, its another thing to say the guy isn't even in my league. Um... then why are you even fighting him? Floyd just said its an easy fight for him and I pointed that out and now you are butt-hurt? Be mad at Floyd for not fighting proper competition. Also, I don't hate Floyd I just want him to actually fight SOMEONE ANYONE who actually would be a threat to him. What did Floyd say, specifically?

Its one thing to say he won't hurt me, its another thing to say the guy isn't even in my league. Um... then why are you even fighting him? Floyd just said its an easy fight for him and I pointed that out and now you are butt-hurt? Be mad at Floyd for not fighting proper competition. Also, I don't hate Floyd I just want him to actually fight SOMEONE ANYONE who actually would be a threat to him. does floyd think anyone is in his league??? smh...dude, ive never heard floyd say a fighter stood a chance against him. i dont get why ppl like u, who dont follow the guy think u can just make ignorant comments and skirt like no1 will call u out on it. floyd has never thought a person hes fought was in his league. that will never change, whether he says they are dangerous or not.

dude, u make no sense. wtf is he supposed to say? hes supposed to be like oh yea this guy will reallly hurt me. i gotta watch out! stfu and try to make sense outta all ur hate. Its one thing to say he won't hurt me, its another thing to say the guy isn't even in my league. Um... then why are you even fighting him? Floyd just said its an easy fight for him and I pointed that out and now you are butt-hurt? Be mad at Floyd for not fighting proper competition. Also, I don't hate Floyd I just want him to actually fight SOMEONE ANYONE who actually would be a threat to him.

Typically Floyd, when he takes the fight the guy is a dangerous fighter but once its signed what Floyd feels really comes out. He makes himself look bad, if Ortiz is so easy then why fight him at all? As usual Floyd tells you who is and or isn't a threat by the guys he DOESN'T fight, those are the ones who actually have a shot. Floyd once he left 135 only fights guys he knows he can beat, same situation here. I also LMFAO at the "his young" comments as if THAT is all it takes to make this fight legit. Quit and Draw in against his last two toughest fights (apart from Berto, who is garbage) somehow that makes you a threat to Mayweather? dude, u make no sense. wtf is he supposed to say? hes supposed to be like oh yea this guy will reallly hurt me. i gotta watch out! stfu and try to make sense outta all ur hate.

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Typically Floyd, when he takes the fight the guy is a dangerous fighter but once its signed what Floyd feels really comes out. He makes himself look bad, if Ortiz is so easy then why fight him at all? As usual Floyd tells you who is and or isn't a threat by the guys he DOESN'T fight, those are the ones who actually have a shot. Floyd once he left 135 only fights guys he knows he can beat, same situation here. I also LMFAO at the "his young" comments as if THAT is all it takes to make this fight legit. Quit and Draw in against his last two toughest fights (apart from Berto, who is garbage) somehow that makes you a threat to Mayweather? Floyd always fights for the green strap.

Over the years you have never seen Floyd act like or say he is going to destroy his opponent as if they are nothing? Where the f*ck have you been, Dan? And no I highly doubt Floyd is underestimating Victor. Fact of the matter is, he doesn't underestimate any of his opponents.

Typically Floyd, when he takes the fight the guy is a dangerous fighter but once its signed what Floyd feels really comes out. He makes himself look bad, if Ortiz is so easy then why fight him at all? As usual Floyd tells you who is and or isn't a threat by the guys he DOESN'T fight, those are the ones who actually have a shot. Floyd once he left 135 only fights guys he knows he can beat, same situation here. I also LMFAO at the "his young" comments as if THAT is all it takes to make this fight legit. Quit and Draw in against his last two toughest fights (apart from Berto, who is garbage) somehow that makes you a threat to Mayweather?

You feel Ortiz is a better puncher than Oscar? better??? no. more power? yes.

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards Ortiz "melting under the lights" and doing things he's not used to and performing worser and worser as the fight progresses. Make no mistake, Victor Ortiz has BETTER TOOLS to work with than either Mosley, Márquez, or Hatton had. Ortiz is younger than Mosley, bigger than Hatton, and more aggressive than Márquez. Even if Márquez and Mayweather met at a comfortable weight, Mayweather would've beaten him because he's a clean counter-puncher. He socks you with one precise punch and then gets out. Márquez isn't like that, he favors getting into exchanges and nearly always gets the better of it because he's an excellent counter-puncher. Ortiz has the physical tools to beat Mayweather. What worries me is his mental state. He seemed sooooooooooooooo out of character on that Face-Off show... "I'm going to do to you what Chávez did to...to, uhh..." "Go ahead and say it, Roger..." :rofl: It's just another day in the life of Mayweather. Ortiz has been offered a golden opportunity here by being tossed into what will probably be the biggest fight of his life at the tender age of 24, and he will not be able to cope with it. I'm calling it now: Mayweather TKO 11. There's a chance of an upset, but I'm betting Ortiz won't be able to deliver on fight night. If Floyd is really sleeping on Ortiz then we will have the upset of the decade. or more likely Ortiz knocks him down and wake that ass up If he knocks Mayweather down, he better make sure Floyd's down and out. Because if Mayweather gets up, he's going to step his game up tenfold. You piss Floyd off, he's coming to tear that ass!

If Floyd is really sleeping on Ortiz then we will have the upset of the decade. or more likely Ortiz knocks him down and wake that ass up

Mayweather was having a ball laughing and smerking everytime Ortiz opened his mouth. Mayweather knows Ortiz is a joke Why do u think that Ortiz is a joke? What can you base it off? What logic are u using to call him a joke?

PBF gets KTFO if he brings anything lesser than his A+ game. He aint KOin Ortiz so lets kill that BS. I think its pretty dumb to try and walk this kid down like he did ssm too! But, hey. He has been listening to the critics too much and it will hurt him soon.