probably feels discraced for taking dive money...africans have a lot of pride...he no longer wants to show his guilty mug to the public...
really... So Africans have a lot of pride so he took dirty money to take a dive.
gotcha, homey :D
Clottey was BRIBED to "throw" his fight with Pac, and is now currently receiving BRIBE money in quarterly payaments by Arum's 2nd or 3rd party associates.
Clottey doesnt have to fight at all, cause he's basically "set for life".
and Clottey isnt the only one that "layed down" for Pac.
Margarito also "threw" his fight with Pac so that he can a $7 million dollar payday and get re-licensed.
Mosley also "threw" his fight with Pac and is getting close to $10 million for doing so.
3 FIXED FIGHTS in a row for Pac.
so arum paid clottey to take a dive eh? clottey who has no chance against Pac was asked to take a dive... funny people.
not sure if you implied it, but in case you mistook my words, I never thought Clottey was a bad fighter. And I agree with you that his style, and approach to that fight lead to his downfall, but then again we could use that excuse to a lot of fights, can't we? I still believe Pac would have won if Clottey chose to let his "hands go;" Pac was too fast for Clottey, and in my opinion, Clottey would've exposed himself to a myriad of punches, but neither one of us will ever know with 100% certainty.
I like Clottey, I think he's a skilled fighter, he's solid defensively, he possess a good offensive repertoire, and he has an underrated punch. His KO ratio is 50%, but seeing how he could be more active in his fights, that number could've potentially been higher, so fans shouldn't analyze the numbers too much....and maybe I shouldn't either...but if you remember Pacquiao speaking of Clottey's power, his expression thereafter indicated Clottey hit him with some hard shots and you could tell...it only took like 3 rounds for Pac to have that welt under his eye. Further more, watch a few of his fights, Judah, Margarito, Cotto...you can tell the guy can punch.
My advice to Clottey is to put the past behind him, get out there and fight. I've heard he wants Top Rank to pay him more money, but dude, you're not getting multi-million paydays anymore, just take a fight and begin to prove your rank. I suggest going straight up to 154, the layoff could make it hard for a big guy like him to get back down to 147....unless he's been keeping himself within weight this whole time, doubt it. :boxing:
I didn't mistake anything. That statement I made was not to you (so to speak). It was for the tons of people that forget that Clottey is a good fighter, they choose to scold him for one fight...The Pac fight. When in reality, he is a good fighter. I used the phase at the end of your post to point out, that in fact Clottey is actually a good fighter.
Bold: Clottey actually isn't that bad...Still one of my favorite fighters. Clottey's situation on the eyes of that fans is a sad one. My biggest knock on Clottey is he is to injury prone (also finds alot of excuses), but some fans just hate him for the Pac fight and nothing else....Sad really. Dude is a skilled fighter.
I have said before, and still stand by it, Clottey was victim of his own style in the Pac fight. If he would have let his hands go more, he would have beat Pac. That is his style though...Most who have not seen him alot, or followed his career say he threw the fight. Most of his fans like me, knew he would handle Pac when he let his hands go, the question was, would he let his hands go. We find out the answer.
Clottey is a good solid fighter. Always has been.
not sure if you implied it, but in case you mistook my words, I never thought Clottey was a bad fighter. And I agree with you that his style, and approach to that fight lead to his downfall, but then again we could use that excuse to a lot of fights, can't we? I still believe Pac would have won if Clottey chose to let his "hands go;" Pac was too fast for Clottey, and in my opinion, Clottey would've exposed himself to a myriad of punches, but neither one of us will ever know with 100% certainty.
I like Clottey, I think he's a skilled fighter, he's solid defensively, he possess a good offensive repertoire, and he has an underrated punch. His KO ratio is 50%, but seeing how he could be more active in his fights, that number could've potentially been higher, so fans shouldn't analyze the numbers too much....and maybe I shouldn't either...but if you remember Pacquiao speaking of Clottey's power, his expression thereafter indicated Clottey hit him with some hard shots and you could tell...it only took like 3 rounds for Pac to have that welt under his eye. Further more, watch a few of his fights, Judah, Margarito, Cotto...you can tell the guy can punch.
My advice to Clottey is to put the past behind him, get out there and fight. I've heard he wants Top Rank to pay him more money, but dude, you're not getting multi-million paydays anymore, just take a fight and begin to prove your rank. I suggest going straight up to 154, the layoff could make it hard for a big guy like him to get back down to 147....unless he's been keeping himself within weight this whole time, doubt it. :boxing:
Came across this highlight reel, by accident...or maybe I just kept refreshing the youtube search waiting for something on Joshua Clottey to come up, your choice. Didn't wanna create a thread, but thought I'd throw it in here for anyone interested, it's actually not that bad:
and something older
Bold: Clottey actually isn't that bad...Still one of my favorite fighters. Clottey's situation in the eyes of that fans is a sad one. My biggest knock on Clottey is he is to injury prone (also finds alot of excuses), but some fans just hate him for the Pac fight and nothing else....Sad really. Dude is a skilled fighter.
I have said before, and still stand by it, Clottey was victim of his own style in the Pac fight. If he would have let his hands go more, he would have beat Pac. That is his style though...Most who have not seen him alot, or followed his career say he threw the fight. Most of his fans like me, knew he would handle Pac when he let his hands go, the question was, would he let his hands go. We find out the answer.
Clottey is a good solid fighter. Always has been.
These ppl are idiots and just don't seem to understand how a fixed fight works, it would have been better to fix it so Clottey won so Arum could make more $$$ betting on him seeing as he was a huge underdog.
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No, YOU don't understand how betting works.
How much would multi-millionaire Bob Arum have to bet on the fight for it to be meaningful for him? Keeping in mind the prospective lost revenue for future Pacquiao fights after Manny lost.
Came across this highlight reel, by accident...or maybe I just kept refreshing the youtube search waiting for something on Joshua Clottey to come up, your choice. Didn't wanna create a thread, but thought I'd throw it in here for anyone interested, it's actually not that bad:
and something older
These ppl are idiots and just don't seem to understand how a fixed fight works, it would have been better to fix it so Clottey won so Arum could make more $$$ betting on him seeing as he was a huge underdog.
What did ppl expect from Clottey though, that is how he always fights. catch and counter but he just ended up catching more than trying to counter because pac throws so much.
whoever thought the outcome of that fight wasnt predictable was fooling themselves. when u have a fighter who refuses to throw, even to the point where he gives up fights, fighting a guy who throws fast and often, wtf did u expect? I see no reason to think it was fixed tho. just perfectly matched. Arum had ppl believing clottey was a big bruiser when he really wasn't and never has been
You're a troll, bottom line, and I don't need size 20 red text to clarify that situation.
you're from Boxing Scene staff and that make you a pactard by default you have a lot of racist pactards to ban so go and do your job.....
"floyd mayweather and the mayweathers are definitely whats wrong with boxing"
a great thread coming from your friend HOF ATG STRUGG.....
I need size 20 red text to clarify that situation....
He's suffering from Post Traumatic Pac Syndrome
Every time someone raises there arms in his direction he retreats and curls up in the fetile position.
I've heard it's curable and they have some of the finest most astute doctors in Ghana working on him as we speak and a recovery is expected but it won't be easy this isn't something you just bounce back from without perseverance
pacquiao face after the fight says otherwise.....