Top 15 P4P in 3 years

Segura and Rios will never be top 3 p4p fighters Segura is as much of lock as Ward

Orlando Salido=tough. Carlos Quintana=TKO'd in all his losses. I'm Puerto Rican, by the way. I'm betting on Juanma losing again.:boxing: Salido is a D level fighter if he continues to duck Juanma it wouldn't surprise me if he lost to some bum first. You people are delousional Salido is nothing more then a fluke winner no different than Buster Douglas or Carlos Quintana

I gotta disagree with you on Juanma, I love the kid- his personality and style, but I don't see how he could beat Gamboa. Gamboa is too fast and too smart, if you compare their Salido fights you can see how Gamboa doesn't mind being less exciting to get the win while Juanma has to go balls to the wall each time. I think Juanma loses to both Gamboa and Donaire, I think Mikey Garcia would also beat Juanma. I think Gamboa vs Donaire would be extremely interesting. I tend to agree with New England, I don't think Canelo turns into a P4P type. I think he'll make great fights but fall short in his biggest ones, maybe like De La Hoya. So perhaps his name will appear on a P4P list at some point, but he won't stay there long. Juanma was going through a divorce and the ref completely screwed him like I said Juanma will destroy him in the rematch and no one will remember that fluke loss. Also DLH was consistently in the top 10 P4P for about 10 years so I don't see what your point is. The guy getting the biggest fights will always be in the top 10 P4P

1. Bernard Hopkins 2. Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferrari 3. Kimbo Slice 4. Juan Hipolito Helmann Rivas 5. Samson Onyango 6. Nick Diaz 7. Philip Houthoofdt 8. George Blades 9. Panomdej Ohyuthanakorn 10. Khalif Shabazz

Rios that high no way ! Khan should be higher top 5 min Gamboa should be on there nonito should be way higher and the ghost should be on there too

khan should be top 5

LOL Salido = Carlos Quintana. He'll get destroyed in a rematch Orlando Salido=tough. Carlos Quintana=TKO'd in all his losses. I'm Puerto Rican, by the way. I'm betting on Juanma losing again.:boxing:

Segura and Rios will never be top 3 p4p fighters

I agree Juanma won't be a featherweight in 3 years but he isn't moving up until he beat Gamboa and Donaire first. While Donaire best attribute is his technique his second best is his size he will have a lot trouble against Gamboa Donaire and maybe even Moreno. That and his chin has never been tested. Canelo will get big fights so its pretty much a given that he'll be in the top 10. Oh and there are tons of P4P stars who weren't fast or hard to hit. I gotta disagree with you on Juanma, I love the kid- his personality and style, but I don't see how he could beat Gamboa. Gamboa is too fast and too smart, if you compare their Salido fights you can see how Gamboa doesn't mind being less exciting to get the win while Juanma has to go balls to the wall each time. I think Juanma loses to both Gamboa and Donaire, I think Mikey Garcia would also beat Juanma. I think Gamboa vs Donaire would be extremely interesting. I tend to agree with New England, I don't think Canelo turns into a P4P type. I think he'll make great fights but fall short in his biggest ones, maybe like De La Hoya. So perhaps his name will appear on a P4P list at some point, but he won't stay there long.

damn, i didnt even see juanma on there. He may not even get a chance to fight anyone unless he can beat salido. I just dont see him anywhere near that list, his best days may be behind him and not thats really saying all that much. LOL Salido = Carlos Quintana. He'll get destroyed in a rematch

1. Andre Ward(after beating Froch, Bute and Martinez he begins to unify at 175) 2. Giovanni Segura 3. Brandon Rios 4. Wladimir Klitschko 5. Chad Dawson 6. Juan Manuel Lopez(beats Gamboa and Donaire) 7. Canelo Alvarez 8. Nonito Donaire 9. Sergio Martinez 10. Yuriorkis Gamboa 11. Nathan Cleverly 12. Ismayl Sillakh 13. Miguel Vasquez 14. Amir Khan 15. Abner Mares Remember this is 3 years so if a fighter is not at least close to real title shot now then there is almost no chance you'll be ranked this high in just 3 years. So leave off Frankie Gomez and guys like that[/QUOTE Hate to say, BUT that is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE list 3 years from now.

juanma is done he's not going to be a FW in 3 years bro he's huge right now he's going to be a LW, and with his style he wont have a prayer. if i ventured a guess i'd say donaire will be at the top he's got a style and power that will undoubtedly carry to FW ward up top as well pretty much a given if he were a knockout puncher i'd be talking about him as the next great american fighter, and as it is he's already the best young fighter from the states agree with segura if he can stay light. if a guy stops moving against segura he will get stopped to the body. period. wladimir very well could be retired by then. if we think about it, unless big fights come along, he's beaten almost everybody else. not sure canelo will be on that level he looks to be shaping up into more of a superstar and action fighter than top tier p4p guy. he's just not fast or difficult to hit. otherwise it looks like a solid list if sergio keeps fighting and mares fights and loses to donaire as well i'd also put mikey garcia in the top 20 the kid has the goods if he's willing to take the necessary steps I agree Juanma won't be a featherweight in 3 years but he isn't moving up until he beat Gamboa and Donaire first. While Donaire best attribute is his technique his second best is his size he will have a lot trouble against Gamboa Donaire and maybe even Moreno. That and his chin has never been tested. Canelo will get big fights so its pretty much a given that he'll be in the top 10. Oh and there are tons of P4P stars who weren't fast or hard to hit. I think Wlad will stick around as the next wave of heavyweights come threw. Segura is a beast I think he can move all the way up to Bantamweight without missing a beat

juanma is done he's not going to be a FW in 3 years bro he's huge right now he's going to be a LW, and with his style he wont have a prayer. if i ventured a guess i'd say donaire will be at the top he's got a style and power that will undoubtedly carry to FW ward up top as well pretty much a given if he were a knockout puncher i'd be talking about him as the next great american fighter, and as it is he's already the best young fighter from the states agree with segura if he can stay light. if a guy stops moving against segura he will get stopped to the body. period. wladimir very well could be retired by then. if we think about it, unless big fights come along, he's beaten almost everybody else. not sure canelo will be on that level he looks to be shaping up into more of a superstar and action fighter than top tier p4p guy. he's just not fast or difficult to hit. otherwise it looks like a solid list if sergio keeps fighting and mares fights and loses to donaire as well i'd also put mikey garcia in the top 20 the kid has the goods if he's willing to take the necessary steps

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