Comments Thread For: Sauerland Breaks Down Why Klitschko-Haye Happens

Adamek had gotten the better of him upto that point. Arreola injured his hand, Adamek's shoes fell apart which obviously affected his movement. Adamek won the fight, get over it. And I didn't agree with the split decesion personally, I thought the victory was pretty clear cut. The victory was fairly clear cut but very close and the hand injury made a huge difference to the way Arreola fought. Without the injury I think Arreola would very likely have won. And that wasn't as good a version of Arreola as the current one in any case, as he's lost nearly 20lb since then.

Good by David Haye. You won't be missed.

Adamek would have lost that fight if Arreola hadn't injured his hand. And that was a seriously overweight Arreola. In his last fight Arreola weighed 236. Against Adamek he weighed 250½ and he injured his hand in the ninth round. As it was, Adamek only got a split decision win. Legacy-wise, that version of Arreola and the version of Valuev that Haye beat were about the same. The current version of Arreola would be a different matter though. Adamek had gotten the better of him upto that point. Arreola injured his hand, Adamek's shoes fell apart which obviously affected his movement. Adamek won the fight, get over it. And I didn't agree with the split decesion personally, I thought the victory was pretty clear cut.

I would think that Adamek's win over Arreola is worth about 10 times as much as all of Haye's heavyweight wins put together. Adamek would have lost that fight if Arreola hadn't injured his hand. And that was a seriously overweight Arreola. In his last fight Arreola weighed 236. Against Adamek he weighed 250½ and he injured his hand in the ninth round. As it was, Adamek only got a split decision win. Legacy-wise, that version of Arreola and the version of Valuev that Haye beat were about the same. The current version of Arreola would be a different matter though.

In any case, it does seem a bit misplaced to me that Haye would warrant so much respect, and Adamek is nothing. The entire frame almost sorta comes off as Vitali may have a showdown with Haye, just as soon as he brushes this nobody Adamek aside. Overall, Adamek is a more accomplished and proven fighter than Haye. Maybe not at heavyweight, but even there they aren't so entirely far apart as people would have it seem. I would think that Adamek's win over Arreola is worth about 10 times as much as all of Haye's heavyweight wins put together.

If it happens, it's only because the Klitschkos hate Haye and Vitali wants to finish what Wlad started and KO the guy. Haye doesn't deserve a damn thing, but the Klitschkos are running out of opponents.

Not sure how Adamek is less skilled than Vitali, but to each their own. Vitali is also quite shop worn and has shown some signs of slowing down (see Sosninski fight). That's all pretty much beside the point though. My point has to do with people (including supposed journalists) completely writing him off as if he is nothing. Adamek might be undersized, especially against the likes of a Klitschko, but he is a hell of a fighter. Anyone who would deny that is just ignorant. He's not nothing but he is not a serious threat to Vitali.

Ademek should show more than Haye did (which isn't saying much) -- but K. is twice as big as him -- as for Haye asking for a rematch or a fight with the other K, that's a joke -- Haye is lucky that his purse wasn't withheld and he hasn't been fined or suspended after his despicable 'performance' against WK

I'm fully confident that Vitali-Adamek will have more action than Wladimir-Haye. Sauerland is delusional if he thinks Wladimir-Haye rematch is a PPV event again.

It's funny how nobody gives Adamek a shot. They don't even go through with the formality of "if he beats Adamek in his next fight" instead it's just "after he fights Adamek on September 10." Keep sleeping on Adamek though people. He's obviously a huge underdog, but it's hard to imagine him doing any worse than Haye's pathetic performance against Wlad. Although I don't give Aadmek much of a chance to beat Vitali I will say that I believe he has much better boxing skills than Haye. Just not as fast and way less power. I also get really confused when fans keep stating that Grant almost stopped Adamek in the 12th round. Because in reality he never even came close to stopping him. Adamek get caught with maybe one clean shot and Grant could not hit him again. And the only time Adamek wobbled was when Grant grabbed him by the neck and pushed him. And if you don't believe me I suggest that you watch the round with the volume turned down. Because if you listen to the announcer you would believe that Adamek was out on his feet and ready to go which is far from what actually happened.

Not sure how Adamek is less skilled than Vitali, but to each their own. Vitali is also quite shop worn and has shown some signs of slowing down (see Sosninski fight). That's all pretty much beside the point though. My point has to do with people (including supposed journalists) completely writing him off as if he is nothing. Adamek might be undersized, especially against the likes of a Klitschko, but he is a hell of a fighter. Anyone who would deny that is just ignorant. Agreed Adamek has that guerilla style of hit and run which could cause Vit some problems if he keeps having to turn and search for Adamek. There's the chance he shows his age one of these fights and chasing a younger man around the ring could frustrate and keep him guessing

Not sure how Adamek is less skilled than Vitali, but to each their own. Vitali is also quite shop worn and has shown some signs of slowing down (see Sosninski fight). That's all pretty much beside the point though. My point has to do with people (including supposed journalists) completely writing him off as if he is nothing. Adamek might be undersized, especially against the likes of a Klitschko, but he is a hell of a fighter. Anyone who would deny that is just ignorant. In any case, it does seem a bit misplaced to me that Haye would warrant so much respect, and Adamek is nothing. The entire frame almost sorta comes off as Vitali may have a showdown with Haye, just as soon as he brushes this nobody Adamek aside. Overall, Adamek is a more accomplished and proven fighter than Haye. Maybe not at heavyweight, but even there they aren't so entirely far apart as people would have it seem.

Haye arguably won 2 rounds. I would be astonished if Adamek wins a single round against Vitali. It's true that he might show more heart than Haye did, but he does not have a Heavyweight punch or a Heavyweight chin, and although he is fairly skilled, he is less skilled than Vitali, and to beat Vitali on skills alone, or even to win a round, he'd have to be far more skilled than he is. Not sure how Adamek is less skilled than Vitali, but to each their own. Vitali is also quite shop worn and has shown some signs of slowing down (see Sosninski fight). That's all pretty much beside the point though. My point has to do with people (including supposed journalists) completely writing him off as if he is nothing. Adamek might be undersized, especially against the likes of a Klitschko, but he is a hell of a fighter. Anyone who would deny that is just ignorant.

This article highlights a couple of realities of how dumb Gayevid is: 1) Gayevid voluntarily made himself a slave to Saureland for 4 fights after he was screaming about "slave contracts" with the Klitschkos. The Klistschkos were giving a 3 fight option to fight them and only them, the biggest money fights out there, instead Gayevid chose to become a slave to Saureland regardless of the fighters he faces. 2) In reality Gayevid did NOT make 50% of the net revenues off the Klitschko fight, but Wlad did. Cause Wlad has no masters, his only master is himself, Gayevid had to pay a share to Saureland and GBP.

It's funny how nobody gives Adamek a shot. They don't even go through with the formality of "if he beats Adamek in his next fight" instead it's just "after he fights Adamek on September 10." Keep sleeping on Adamek though people. He's obviously a huge underdog, but it's hard to imagine him doing any worse than Haye's pathetic performance against Wlad. Haye arguably won 2 rounds. I would be astonished if Adamek wins a single round against Vitali. It's true that he might show more heart than Haye did, but he does not have a Heavyweight punch or a Heavyweight chin, and although he is fairly skilled, he is less skilled than Vitali, and to beat Vitali on skills alone, or even to win a round, he'd have to be far more skilled than he is.

Who would pay those kind of euros to see this match...I wouldn't watch it on hbo...a joke is Haye...retire and stop disgracing this great sport...

Yeah Adamek should still have that respect though but he is the underdog big time. Haye is stupid if he thinks he can beat Vitali and even without having a tune up fight.

It's no surprise people give Adamek close to no chance of beating Vitali. After all, in one of his most recent fights, he was put on queer street by old Michael Grant and barely made it to the final bell. Adamek hasn't achieved anything at HW besides beating Arreola, which was a very good win. He hasn't shown anything that makes us think he can upset Vitali. If he does, it will be a HUGE upset to me. That doesn't make it good journalism (among other things).

It's funny how nobody gives Adamek a shot. They don't even go through with the formality of "if he beats Adamek in his next fight" instead it's just "after he fights Adamek on September 10." Keep sleeping on Adamek though people. He's obviously a huge underdog, but it's hard to imagine him doing any worse than Haye's pathetic performance against Wlad.