damn floyd domintated..its weird seeing such a great fighter like jmm get dominated like that...floyd is just on another level,his defense is extremly tight and he just seems to be like neo in the matrix
Larry you admitted a couple of days ago it was a cherry-picked fight....and that's what everyone else thinks too, please don't talk it up, it was a shameful night for boxing.
cherry-picked and a beautiful display of boxing skills against the #2 P4P boxer of the world....
cherry-picked ??? yes just like pacquiao is doing now
The only reason why he beat Marquez's a$$ in such a manor, was because Floyd was 2 pounds heavier than he should've been in that fight.
I can gurantee you that if he had've came in at 144 instead of 146, Marquez would've stopped him late, somewhere around the 8th-10th round.
How can you 'gurantee' it? Do you have some demonstrative scientific method at your disposal or is your assertion based on the more nebulous rationale of instinct?
Larry you admitted a couple of days ago it was a cherry-picked fight....and that's what everyone else thinks too, please don't talk it up, it was a shameful night for boxing.
I could agree on almost all points except for one, I do give Floyd credit beating Marquez..
floyd is indeed extremely talented. one doesn't accomplish what he did without the level of skill he has shown.
but like i said earlier. true, floyd beat marquez and beat him good.
but i won't praise a cat for beating a mouse.
just like i won't praise Pac for fighting marquez a third time at 144.
No. I think the manner in which it was accomplished is what was impressive.
Who knows though? Maybe Marquez was just sluggish from all the weight gain, and couldn't pull the trigger. We'll never know for sure.
dude. marquez WAS sluggish.
you only need to look at him at that fight. heck, even during the 24/7 episodes during his training you could see him not being his best.
i only wish Pac would have fought marquez a third time at 140 or even lower, which is why i'm quite disappointed in him for fighting him at 144, even if it is at catchweight.
Floyd felts Marquez's power in the first round and realized that he couldn't hurt him. He still fought like a lil b*tch.
When asked a very relevant question by Max about why Floyd didn't make the weight even tho Marquez had to jump 2 weight classes, Floyd threw a b*tch fit and completely avoided the question. His mind was all about getting a reebok deal.
Sh*t like that is why hes a disgrace to the sport. If he would fought Marquez at 130-35 he would've got his ass beat.
floyd jr has mad skills, no doubt about that, and is possibly the best defensive fighter out there.
but consider the situation before heaping too much praise on floyd for that fight.
floyd was the taller one with the the longer reach.
he was the younger one.
they fought AT HIS WEIGHT CLASS, even when he already was the bigger man.
he made marquez GO UP in weight, in weight class he never was before. (and yeah, i'm against Pac fighting marquez at 147 as well)
he fought HIS FIGHT, whereas marquez was forced to fight AS THE AGGRESSOR, when everyone knows marquezs' specialty is being the defensive one.
in short?
floyd had ALL THE ADVANTAGES.
and he STILL cheated at the weight. he would have STILL beaten Marquez handily and possibly just the way he did even if he didn't cheat, but i guess that's the kind of guy he is.
he won, and won by a mile. but i won't give him props for that.
i guess its all Pac's fault in a way. if he hadn't beaten dela hoya the way he did, in spite of going up in weight, the Floyd/Marquez fight would have NEVER been taken seriously.
it would have been called what it really was... a circus.
this just proves one thing about you Larry...
you're no true boxing fan. i'm a true blue pac fan and at least i don't PRETEND to be a boxing fan like you do.
Lol! praising a welterweight for basically beating a lightweight.
I could agree on almost all points except for one, I do give Floyd credit beating Marquez..
True enough. You HAVE to take away from Floyd's performance for that. That being said, I don't think ANYONE expected Floyd to dominate JMM the way he did. Beat him? Of course. But like that? No way. I thought JMM would at least be able to land something. He landed NOTHING.
floyd is indeed skilled, and it takes talent to do what he did to marquez.
but like i said. it was essentially a cat playing with a mouse. its quite entertaining actually. the way a cat plays with a mouse it cornered.
cats are incredibly skilled and could take on a cobra if need be.
but i won't praise a cat for beating a mouse.
You and I must have been watching two different fights. Floyd busted Marquez up like nobody`s business. And I've said it before: The weight differential was almost meaningless. The difference was CLASS. Floyd woulda' whooped him at 140lbs as well. It might have been slightly closer, but a blowout none the less.
Floyd just clearly had Juan Manuel Marquez's number. JMM does best when he's able to engage. Floyd completely shut him down.
The weight differential puts a slight damper on the win for Floyd, IMO. I'd say, if it were at a neutral weight, the performance would have been about an A- for Floyd. With the weight differential though, it drops to about a B-.
Still an impressive win, IMO. To make a world-class boxer like Marquez look as bad as he did, is impressive.
so you honestly think a welterweight beating a lightweight is impressive eh? you're no different from larry then.
Take a look at the way Marquez's body looked at 147, and take a look at Pac's at 144. Marquez obviously didn't intelligently move up in weight, and he didn't gradually do it like Pacquiao. He had only fought at lightweight twice, and that was within a 5 month period before shooting up two weight classes. His body physically isn't made for that, and it showed in how sluggish and slow he looked against Mayweather. The only thing Marquez has that's balancing it out is his great skill and intelligence.
Running like a lil b*tch for 12 rounds is hardly dominating. Epecially when you make Marquez jump up 2 weight classes and you still can't even make the weight. And he refused to step on the scale for that fight because he knew damn well he outweighted him by 20+ pounds on fight night.
And Marquez's face looked completely fine after the fight. He didn't even look like he was in a fight. Thats not dominating thats fighting like a lil b*tch.
damn floyd domintated..its weird seeing such a great fighter like jmm get dominated like that...floyd is just on another level,his defense is extremly tight and he just seems to be like neo in the matrix
floyd jr has mad skills, no doubt about that, and is possibly the best defensive fighter out there.
but consider the situation before heaping too much praise on floyd for that fight.
floyd was the taller one with the the longer reach.
he was the younger one.
they fought AT HIS WEIGHT CLASS, even when he already was the bigger man.
he made marquez GO UP in weight, in weight class he never was before. (and yeah, i'm against Pac fighting marquez at 147 as well)
he fought HIS FIGHT, whereas marquez was forced to fight AS THE AGGRESSOR, when everyone knows marquezs' specialty is being the defensive one.
in short?
floyd had ALL THE ADVANTAGES.
and he STILL cheated at the weight. he would have STILL beaten Marquez handily and possibly just the way he did even if he didn't cheat, but i guess that's the kind of guy he is.
he won, and won by a mile. but i won't give him props for that.
i guess its all Pac's fault in a way. if he hadn't beaten dela hoya the way he did, in spite of going up in weight, the Floyd/Marquez fight would have NEVER been taken seriously.
it would have been called what it really was... a circus.
this just proves one thing about you Larry...
you're no true boxing fan. i'm a true blue pac fan and at least i don't PRETEND to be a boxing fan like you do.
Lol! praising a welterweight for basically beating a lightweight.
Yes Floyd abused JMM and would defeat him at any weight. But we also must realize that JMM, for some reason, has Manny's number in a sense. Norton had Ali's, even though he won 1 of 3, consensus is he deserved 2. Floyd doesn't exactly have that fighter but Castillo comes close.