I try to listen to Max Kellerman's radio show when I can, as he is one of my favorite boxing guys along with Iole, Fischer, Rosenthal, and Rafael. I noticed some suspicions he has had for Jose Bautista. I haven't followed baseball in years, but apparently this guy has come out of nowhere to put up incredible numbers. What does Max think of this? Read for yourself on his twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/Max_Kellerman
I, myself, think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. Max's comments do not suggest that he does the same. In other words, it seems as if Max feels that he has reasonable suspicion to think that Bautista is on PEDs. Now, I would think that it is reasonable to assume that the same can translate into boxing.
There is some assuming here, but I think it is reasonable to assume that Max has questions about Pacquiao's recent success. I don't, but I'm just pointing out what a credible boxing guy may think.
I try to listen to Max Kellerman's radio show when I can, as he is one of my favorite boxing guys along with Iole, Fischer, Rosenthal, and Rafael. I noticed some suspicions he has had for Jose Bautista. I haven't followed baseball in years, but apparently this guy has come out of nowhere to put up incredible numbers. What does Max think of this? Read for yourself on his twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/Max_Kellerman
I, myself, think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. Max's comments do not suggest that he does the same. In other words, it seems as if Max feels that he has reasonable suspicion to think that Bautista is on PEDs. Now, I would think that it is reasonable to assume that the same can translate into boxing.
There is some assuming here, but I think it is reasonable to assume that Max has questions about Pacquiao's recent success. I don't, but I'm just pointing out what a credible boxing guy may think.
Assuming something makes an "A$$" out of "U" n "ME.... ever heard that expression?
Non of yoz brought up the fact bautista has played winter ball on dr for the last few years,that means hes been playing all year round and pitchers in DR are young and throw up to 98-99 heaters! While pitchers here dont throw as hard pluss ball parks in DR are bigger.Estadio Quisqueya home of Los Tigres De licey santo domingo is 410 center feild.a player that plays all year round is consistent and over time develops a better swing and better timing on pitches.
yahhh winter league. thats where bartolo colon went after he couldnt win ish in the majors anymore and he came back throwing 95mph again rite?? lol. im a huge yankees fan but i kno for a fact theres more to it than that with colon. i really like bautista but i have reason to doubt him as well.
Non of yoz brought up the fact bautista has played winter ball on dr for the last few years,that means hes been playing all year round and pitchers in DR are young and throw up to 98-99 heaters! While pitchers here dont throw as hard pluss ball parks in DR are bigger.Estadio Quisqueya home of Los Tigres De licey santo domingo is 410 center feild.a player that plays all year round is consistent and over time develops a better swing and better timing on pitches.
Late bloomers occur all the time in sports, im not even a casual baseball fan or a fan in general but **** I know you dont have to be on PED's to be a successful power hitter.
Barry Bonds in Pittsburgh or pre-PED's was one of the best players in baseball, could hit for power, run the bases, and field his position well. Ken Griffey Jr didnt use PED's and was one of the 90's premier sluggers, etc. I know those guys were great from the start, but **** maybe Bautista just found his groove and his talent is now showing
nahh, im telling u. baseball is a game with so many moving parts, its more thar rare. i dont think i can ever think of a time where it happened. barry and ken were both great and highly touted. any everyday player that u can name rite now thats considered great in the league were highly touted. its rare for such a thing to happen in most sports, but in baseball its more than rare.
I'm not a big baseball watcher but it seems to me that you can tell when a homerun hitter is using roids. Just look at their physique. Like Mcguire, Sosa, Bonds, etc they all got freaking huge.
Bautista is 6 feet and 195 pounds probably all muscle. He just doesn't look like he is on roids imo.
There are many examples in baseball history where players who were ordinary for years start producing brilliant numbers.
Sandy Koufax started in 1955. His numbers were:
not a bad rookie:
1955: 2-2 3.02
then 5 rather rather poor seasons:
1956: 3-4 4.91
1957: 5-4 3.88
1958: 11-11 4.48
1959: 8-6 4.05
1960: 8-13 3.91
then 2 decent seasons:
1961: 18-13 3.52
1962: 14-7 2.54
and then 4 brilliant seasons:
1963: 25-5 1.88
1964: 19-5 1.74
1965: 26-8 2.04
1966: 27-9 1.73
Athletes mature and improve. Sometimes they find a groove.
thats a pitcher. totally different ball game. u cant compare at all.
So because Bautista becomes the premier power hitter in sports he's on PED's? God forbid that he actually maybe just worked on his game, improved in all facets, and got better that way..just saying
yea, no...that **** doeant happen in baseball. esp when ur on the step of your 30th bday. mebbe u dont watch baseball, but i do, religiously. its very unheard of, and its not just his power hitting. like i said, he went from being sent down to AA ball to being the best player in the mlb. and this isnt some guy who was ever highly touted or anything like that. its very peculiar. and its hard to blame ppl for being skeptical.
It does seem strange. I will admit that much. Who knows if they even let him slide on a positive test. Apparently they let Barry Bonds slide.
chances are if hes doing something, they just dont kno what it is. its something new thats proly totally undetectable. either that or the guy got struck by lightening and became a superhero. when i see him play, its like damn. this guy went from being below average to great. its totally inexplicable.
thats why im saiying, i dunno if hes doing, and i certainly hope hes not, because hes a very likable guy. but if someone were to look for a prototype of an athlete that could possibly be using, its him. **** all that manny ****.
I haven't followed baseball in years, but is the bolded statement actually true? It's my understanding that it was a colossal improvement. We are talking numbers that are comparable to Ted Williams...
yea, he doesnt kno wat hes talking about. bautista went from being a bench player to being the best player in the mlb. there is no wiggle room there. went from being close to being cut from a team to being the best in the whole league. do u get that?
Max is just showing his small knowledge of sports. He doesn't even understand that most athletes start gaining popularity at their later years because those athletes remained consistent throughout their careers.
Jose Bautista is the same. He remained average a not so great and not so worst player in baseball. Now, Bautista is just showing a little bit of improvement late in his career.
Babe Ruth played baseball from 1914 to 1935 that is a total of 21 years playing professionally. Same with Michael Jordan who played from 1984 to 2003. Jordan won his championship at 28 years old. And became a legend after that age. So, Bautista is now making noise because he remained consistent and now improved.
I give him a benefit of the doubt until the truth comes out. Looking at baseball the truth always comes out.
I haven't followed baseball in years, but is the bolded statement actually true? It's my understanding that it was a colossal improvement. We are talking numbers that are comparable to Ted Williams...
Max is just showing his small knowledge of sports. He doesn't even understand that most athletes start gaining popularity at their later years because those athletes remained consistent throughout their careers.
Jose Bautista is the same. He remained average a not so great and not so worst player in baseball. Now, Bautista is just showing a little bit of improvement late in his career.
Babe Ruth played baseball from 1914 to 1935 that is a total of 21 years playing professionally. Same with Michael Jordan who played from 1984 to 2003. Jordan won his championship at 28 years old. And became a legend after that age. So, Bautista is now making noise because he remained consistent and now improved.
I give him a benefit of the doubt until the truth comes out. Looking at baseball the truth always comes out.
A credible boxing guy knows that wifebeater is just playing games... wifebeater doesn't really want the fight hence the false PEDs slander
SMH, can you seperate the two at all? He's talking about Pac, the other guy wasn't even brought up.
As a Blue Jays fan, I have followed Bautista since his arrival to the team.
His year last year and this are surprising, but when you scratch the surface there are a lot of reasons why he has improved so much. Consider work ethic, improvements to his swing, increased study of pitchers, new manager, new hitting coach---there are lots of reasons, lots of pieces to the puzzle that come together to great a great player, season, or what have you. All of the reasons of nothing to do with PEDs.
Hurling insinuations that any sportsman who does something remarkable seems to have become the default position for people who are too intellectually lazy to do the necessary research and critical thinking required to adequately explain a great sportsman. People like Max Kellerman or Roger Mayweathers, (actually all the Mayweathers for that matter).
Once again, Max Kellerman tries to compare apples to oranges and can't even explain the apple properly. What a star.
I agree with your sentiment that most of these types of people are indeed intellectually lazy, but that's not Max Kellerman. He knows his stuff.
Roger and Floyd Sr. seem to be intellectually lazy to me.
As a Blue Jays fan, I have followed Bautista since his arrival to the team.
His year last year and this are surprising, but when you scratch the surface there are a lot of reasons why he has improved so much. Consider work ethic, improvements to his swing, increased study of pitchers, new manager, new hitting coach---there are lots of reasons, lots of pieces to the puzzle that come together to great a great player, season, or what have you. All of the reasons of nothing to do with PEDs.
Hurling insinuations that any sportsman who does something remarkable seems to have become the default position for people who are too intellectually lazy to do the necessary research and critical thinking required to adequately explain a great sportsman. People like Max Kellerman or Roger Mayweathers, (actually all the Mayweathers for that matter).
Once again, Max Kellerman tries to compare apples to oranges and can't even explain the apple properly. What a star.
man, if anybody is roiding its definitely bautista. theres no way in hell u go from being a bench player to being the best player in baseball. that **** is unheard of in a sport where u either have it or u dont. i dunno if he is, but his improvement is so frikkin unreal. he makes manny p. look normal.
I try to listen to Max Kellerman's radio show when I can, as he is one of my favorite boxing guys along with Iole, Fischer, Rosenthal, and Rafael. I noticed some suspicions he has had for Jose Bautista. I haven't followed baseball in years, but apparently this guy has come out of nowhere to put up incredible numbers. What does Max think of this? Read for yourself on his twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/Max_Kellerman
I, myself, think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. Max's comments do not suggest that he does the same. In other words, it seems as if Max feels that he has reasonable suspicion to think that Bautista is on PEDs. Now, I would think that it is reasonable to assume that the same can translate into boxing.
There is some assuming here, but I think it is reasonable to assume that Max has questions about Pacquiao's recent success. I don't, but I'm just pointing out what a credible boxing guy may think.
As a Blue Jays fan, I have followed Bautista since his arrival to the team.
His year last year and this are surprising, but when you scratch the surface there are a lot of reasons why he has improved so much. Consider work ethic, improvements to his swing, increased study of pitchers, new manager, new hitting coach---there are lots of reasons, lots of pieces to the puzzle that come together to great a great player, season, or what have you. All of the reasons of nothing to do with PEDs.
Hurling insinuations that any sportsman who does something remarkable seems to have become the default position for people who are too intellectually lazy to do the necessary research and critical thinking required to adequately explain a great sportsman. People like Max Kellerman or Roger Mayweathers, (actually all the Mayweathers for that matter).
Once again, Max Kellerman tries to compare apples to oranges and can't even explain the apple properly. What a star.