Does Vernon Forrest belong in the HOF?

no good fighter but not a special resume only has the 2 Shane wins as really notable

nope______

(R.I.P) VF...unfortuntely NO!!! Don't think he had that many big fights to qualify but I'll strongly believe a healthy VF either beats or gives complete hell to any current 147 fighter!!!

He doesn't have a HOF resume in my opinion... good but not great.. and definitely not Hall fame material.

No, I don't think so he beat Mosley twice but he lost to Ricardo twice in my book he doesn't get in but he was one of my favorite fighters growing up but he didn't have a lot of big wins under his belt.

no,but had alot of potential

No he doesnt.

Fair points. But I told you what I thought. Yes you did but without any reasoning. But, fine lets say you right(which you're not) and say that he used against Oscar the first. You implied that the only reason he won against Oscar was cuz' he took PED's....How can you come to such a conclusion? Just out of curiosity?

No there isn't. But, is that your comparison? :lol1: Why not? Especially since he lost 2 in a row against Forrest and looked like crap against Raul Marquez(for as long as it lasted) Fair points. But I told you what I thought.

Nah I don't think so. He had the skills to become one, but his resume is lacking.

Just like there is no evidence Marg cheated against Cotto. No there isn't. But, is that your comparison? :lol1: I don't believe he decided to take steroids after beating ODH the 1st time. Why not? Especially since he lost 2 in a row against Forrest and looked like crap against Raul Marquez(for as long as it lasted)

Yes the 2nd time. There is no evidence to suggest he used anything during the first fight. Just like there is no evidence Marg cheated against Cotto. I don't believe he decided to take steroids after beating ODH the 1st time.

I am confident SHane was using Balco products when he beat ODH. Yes the 2nd time. There is no evidence to suggest he used anything during the first fight.

But, that's not a fact. So......Your argument is shattered. I am confident SHane was using Balco products when he beat ODH.

Sadly, No. His lack of quality wins and longevity has him outside looking in for me. The losses to Mayorga coupled with his shoulder injuries really derailed his career. He was never really the same after both incidents.

I would say no only because the SHane wins are mitigated by the fact SHane used BALCO stuff to beat ODH both times. If Shane doesn't beat ODH Forrest prob doesn't fight him and even if he does the wins are not that significant. But, that's not a fact. So......Your argument is shattered.

I would say no only because the SHane wins are mitigated by the fact SHane used BALCO stuff to beat ODH both times. If Shane doesn't beat ODH Forrest prob doesn't fight him and even if he does the wins are not that significant.

Winky Wright? Borderline. There a few fighters who deserve to be in the HOF over Winky. I personally wouldn't vote Winky Wright in either. He could have gotten in if he wasn't such a stupid business man.

There are precious few legendary fighters in the last 25 years or so so it would be wrong to use the likes of Ali, Hearns, Hagler etc as yardstick for who gets into the IHOF then there would be no annual entrants. The fact that you've got Barry McGuigan and will have Arturo Gatti & Diego Corrales in as a first time ballot means space must be found for Vernon Forrest. I agree that you cant use Ali and those guys as the yard stick but those other 3 guys at the bottom should be nowhere near the HOF. You have to be very good. I dont mind a guy like JMM at all. Maybe even a guy like Tszyu but Vernon shouldnt make it even though Im a huge fan

.............No Winky Wright?