...when they know full well that a fighter is only eligible for induction five years after retirement?
Tyson only made it into the HOF this year, for goodness sake. Holyfield isn't in it yet due to the fact that he's still active. Since Wlad and his opponents are also active it's impossible for him to beat a HOF fighter unless they come out of retirement, doddering and wheezing, looking for that one last payday. Yeah, some achievement that will be. :rolleyes:
As for future hall of famers, I can't predict the future and neither, last I checked, could anyone else on this planet. However, based on some of their previous inductees, I suspect Chris Byrd will get in due to his achievements and wins over Holyfield, Vitali and Tua. Not first ballot, but I think it'll happen. Adamek and a few others might be up for consideration depending on what they do from now until their retirement day, and if he sticks around after the Vitali fight he's a viable opponent. But like I said, I can't predict the future and neither can you.
Maybe in twenty years time we'll look back and see that Wlad didn't, in fact, beat any hall of famers, in which case the above criticism would be perfctly legit. Until then however it's a totally unfair and ridiculous thing to ask of him.
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You posting images doesn't change the facts. Both Wlad and Vitali will be in the HOF after they retire, FACT.
Maybe you need your eyes checked. They are both first ballot slam dunk HOFers.
WHy Vitali? Wlad ok, even though the TS is correct he hasn't beaten any HOF fighters.
Good point, but I believe he is an as a non participant.
Edit: he's in as an observer.
SInce Stallone is in I should change my answer because Wlad fought Lewis in Ocean's 12 and Lewis is a 1st ballot HOF.
Byrd is fringe,i loved the guy coming up but i am not sure if he has the record,honestly wlad in my eyes has not earned a trip just yet,neither has Vitali.imo
Yes they have, come on. I would be willing to bet money on that if the timeline werent so big.
Barry McGuigan?
I don't think McGuigan should be in so it shows it CAN happen. Like I said though, its unlikely. The heavyweights are much more noticed than the featherweights. To start letting in unworthy heavies would open the door to massive criticism in my opinion.
this is so juvenile. Instead of having a decent boxing-argument people resort to calling eachother fat, loser etc?
Seems like what the trashier girls did in highschool.
Shape up and make it a boxing debate. Much more fun for us spectators to read.
Medved and Freedom are crap posters when it comes to talking about the Klitschko's.
Though they are slightly better than Klitschko2011.
Congrats guys, you've successfully turned my thread to shit. Welcome to my ignore list for a bit.
Now let's get back to the discussion at hand, how 'bout?
My apologies for my part in that. I wasn't trying to ruin your thread.
Anyway....Wlads opponents are questioned because the likelihood of any making the HOF is slim at best. Of Jerry Quarry isn't in, what is the chances of anyone Wlad has fought getting in? Not very good in my opinion. There are still fighters to fight who may one day make it, but the way todays heavyweight scene is I wouldn't bank on it. The don't fight often enough and against the best comp. They sit on paper rankings waiting for their big shot. That to me is not conducive of a Hall of Fame fighter. Admittedly though that could change. I just don't see any hope of it any time soon.
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Now let's get back to the discussion at hand, how 'bout?
None of Wlad's opponents are going to the HOF. Period. There is simply no reason to discuss this. Un fortunately people on this site let who they like interfere with sound reasonable boxing facts and loigic.
We do not have to wait 5 years for anyone to retire.
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Wow, nothing like being your own biggest fan, fat boy. Too bad you aren't as big a fan of salad as you are of yourself, you'd be stick thin.
It is an unarguable FACT that I have run you, medved, Freedom and SPANK A DONG out of every single thread because you can't argue against facts and logic. It is also a fact I have now reduced the 4 of you to following me around and trolling instead of trying to debate me. By the way, your insults are weak. You're gonna have to do better if you really want to hurt my feelings. :fing02: