Are Pacfans Finally Ready to admit....

USADA/WADA/DeezNutsADA.....who gives a **** as long as this fight happens. At least we're arguing about who should do the blood testing and not what the cut off date is. So I guess its a progession...

Floyd's bigger and faster than Manny is, he is more likely a juicer than Manny is. With Al Hymon involved, pay offs can happen on any level.

What's wrong with an alternative testing body? I don't see the issue.

I heard johnm is so humble that he is willing to give people who ask him e-points. I only ask for 2M e-points. Thanks. You heard wrong. But I'll give ya a few points anyway.

I don't believe that Pacquiao is on anything. I also don't believe that he's afraid of Mayweather (obviously). I think that Arum doesn't believe Pacquiao can beat him. I heard johnm is so humble that he is willing to give people who ask him e-points. I only ask for 2M e-points. Thanks.

Some people cant seem to put 2 and 2 together. Simple minded individuals.. Let look at Floyds track record.. 1. When Floyd SD Oscar and a rematch was in the works who did Floyd decide to Fight rather then taking that rematch with the more nourished Oscar who gave Floyd the SD win.. Thats right the LWW Ricky Hatton who moved up in weight to fight Floyd.. 2. When the WW division was stacked with Cotto, Marg, Shane, Clottey, PW who did Floyd decided to fight back then before he retired? Thats right the LWW Ricky Hatton who was undefeated at 140... 3. After nearly taking 9 rounds to finally figure out head first Hatton style, where was Floyd.. Thats right announcing retirement to avoid the top WWs.. 4. Now that the dust has settled who did Floyd decided to fight as a comeback fight, LIGHTWEIGHT Marquez.. 5. Now Manny Pacquiao reigns as the top WW what does Floyd do, find an excuse such as extreme blood testing to avoid fighting Pacman. YOU FLOMOS HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED.. Really so the only thing Manny has to do is agree to the drug testing and he can expose this fraud Mayweather? Well what is Manny waiting for?! Take the test and he got him!

Floyd's version? like he is the one making up the code of testing lol. You pactards are as pathetic as Bob Arum, don't know when to stop the lies. When did they start testing Floyd and Shane, and when did they stopped? They started at the beginning of the training period and stopped 18 days before the fight. How many weeks was that?

People here act like Ellerbe and the Mayweathers are some saints, while Bob is played like the devil himself(he certainly has the looks tho).

I don't believe that Pacquiao is on anything. I also don't believe that he's afraid of Mayweather (obviously). I think that Arum doesn't believe Pacquiao can beat him. there you go...this is the truth

Floyd's version is a short 8-week period which leaves a gaping loophole for cycling PEDS which WADA is determined to close. Floyd's version? like he is the one making up the code of testing lol. You pactards are as pathetic as Bob Arum, don't know when to stop the lies.

The USADA has already shown some bias when it bent the rules of WADA by accepting Floyd's version of testing. WADA, in it's Athlete Whereabouts Requirements, recognized and accepted that (a) no advance notice Out-of-Competition Testing is at the core of effective doping control, and (b) without accurate information as to an athlete's whereabouts, such testing can be inefficient and often impossible. It further specified that an athlete is required to make a quarterly whereabouts filing that provides accurate and complete information about the athlete's whereabouts. This athlete must provide his/her whereabouts information within an 18-month period wherein he/she can be located for testing. Floyd's version is a short 8-week period which leaves a gaping loophole for cycling PEDS which WADA is determined to close. The USADA also made a pre-judgement of the situation when it made a statement saying that Floyd is a clean fighter. Would any of the Floyd defenders care to respond to this?

Some people cant seem to put 2 and 2 together. Simple minded individuals.. Let look at Floyds track record.. 1. When Floyd SD Oscar and a rematch was in the works who did Floyd decide to Fight rather then taking that rematch with the more nourished Oscar who gave Floyd the SD win.. Thats right the LWW Ricky Hatton who moved up in weight to fight Floyd.. 2. When the WW division was stacked with Cotto, Marg, Shane, Clottey, PW who did Floyd decided to fight back then before he retired? Thats right the LWW Ricky Hatton who was undefeated at 140... 3. After nearly taking 9 rounds to finally figure out head first Hatton style, where was Floyd.. Thats right announcing retirement to avoid the top WWs.. 4. Now that the dust has settled who did Floyd decided to fight as a comeback fight, LIGHTWEIGHT Marquez.. 5. Now Manny Pacquiao reigns as the top WW what does Floyd do, find an excuse such as extreme blood testing to avoid fighting Pacman. YOU FLOMOS HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED..

keep changing the subject homies. you still haven't answer why you need ost to a one dimensional boxer who fought nothing but bums? for 40 fights your guy didn't even think about it until the amateurish boxer came along. pac agrees to the test and floyd went on a looooong vacation. he came back demanding $100 million. ask uncle roger. :haha: fight not happening will suit pac fans just fine. i love hearing floyd holding up this fight. keep roadblocking it dudes. :bigeyes: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkxh87KuU1qhuvrd.gif Wait a second you actually think you're making a point? lol I thought you were just trolling. you still haven't answer why you need ost to a one dimensional boxer who fought nothing but bums? This line of questioning was kinda relevant back in 2009, and all answers to it back and forth were based mostly on opinions. But its 2011 and Its not relevant anymore with Arum finally saying he is Ok with Random Testing last week, so the why that you wanted answered is no longer a issue. Problem now is Arum not knowing what he is talking about when it comes to USADA/WADA. demanding $100 million. Was denied by the people that matter, and More importantly money was never a issue in any of the real negotiations. Testing was. Everything you bring up has nothing to do with the currant and only problem as of now, USADA/WADA.

The USADA has already shown some bias when it bent the rules of WADA by accepting Floyd's version of testing. WADA, in it's Athlete Whereabouts Requirements, recognized and accepted that (a) no advance notice Out-of-Competition Testing is at the core of effective doping control, and (b) without accurate information as to an athlete's whereabouts, such testing can be inefficient and often impossible. It further specified that an athlete is required to make a quarterly whereabouts filing that provides accurate and complete information about the athlete's whereabouts. This athlete must provide his/her whereabouts information within an 18-month period wherein he/she can be located for testing. Floyd's version is a short 8-week period which leaves a gaping loophole for cycling PEDS which WADA is determined to close. The USADA also made a pre-judgement of the situation when it made a statement saying that Floyd is a clean fighter.

Why is Bob Arum trying so hard to protect Manny from this test, from the excuses, the delays, the questioning of USADA's fairness, etc... What is this guy scared of? It has gotten ridiculous, as a Floyd fan, if the situation were reversed and it was Floyd's team making all these excuses, I would call him out, I'd agree he's ducking and got something to hide. If you are a Pac fan Bob Arum is truly making you look like sheep, mindless servants.

I don't believe that Pacquiao is on anything. I also don't believe that he's afraid of Mayweather (obviously). I think that Arum doesn't believe Pacquiao can beat him.

keep changing the subject homies. you still haven't answered why you need ost to a one dimensional boxer who fought nothing but bums? for 40 fights your guy didn't even think about it until the amateurish boxer came along. pac agrees to the test and floyd went on a looooong vacation. he came back demanding $100 million. ask uncle roger. :haha: fight not happening will suit pac fans just fine. i love hearing floyd holding up this fight. keep roadblocking it dudes. :bigeyes:

how is ANYTHING unfair when he'll be taking the same tests as Floyd??? USADA arent going to have a bigger needle to stick in Pacman than Floyd, they wont ask Pacman to piss harder and faster than Floyd ITS EXACTLY THE F*CKING SAME. Nothings unfair, nothings unequal, the tests are the same for one and all Arum is just a liar and a spin doctor, Pactards actually defend this sh1t

that Bob Arum is a lying pieces of ****?? I'm sorry but suggesting USADA wont be fair to Pac because he is not an American is the lowest it gets and Arum can get pretty low. Floyd fans, like myself, have argued and stood our ground on this testing issue since day 1, even with our threads being deleted and Pac fans dominating this board. I always felt Floyd had the moral high ground and the world is finally coming round to supporting his stance. Are any Pac fans on this board finally ready to admit that it is in fact Arum and Team Pacquiao blocking the fight, ducking the test, making excuses, and hence avoiding Floyd? Nah, they're gonna root harder for Ortiz now.