From Kevin Iole's column New Jersey suspends Williams-Lara judges
He writes, "Williams’ promoter, Dan Goossen, did not seem particularly bothered by Smith’s decision to suspend the judges, though he has a vested interest in toeing the line. Andre Ward, whom Goossen promotes, will meet Carl Froch in the finals of Showtime’s Super 6 tournament on Oct. 29 in Atlantic City."
I'm from NJ but I think they need to move this fight to a different location like Las Vegas or Canada. Ward-Froch is a big fight that deserves fair judging and neutrality. I know that boxing has a long history of bad judging. However, until a full investigation is held concerning all stakeholders in the Williams-Lara fight, NJ shouldn't host a fight for a while, especially when the promoter of the beneficiary of the decision is involved. Any thoughts?
Dirrell looked like he was going to croak against Abraham tho. I think he is a mental midget. Has all the skills in the world, I just think something mentally is wrong with him.
Dirrell's a little b#tch but Ward would get knocked out by him. Froch and Abraham were hurt by Dirrell and he has the tools to keep Ward in the outside and KO him there. Ward's inside style won't work for him and he can't outbox a guy with better reach, speed and reflexes.
You think Dirrell would be Ward? Dirrell is local to me, and even I DON'T THINK HE'D BEAT WARD. HAHAHA
But to each his own.
Dirrell has the reach, hand speed and footspeed to keep Ward in the outside. Plus his power is very good and I don't think much of Ward's chin.
You can't beat Dirrell in the inside because his footspeed keeps him safe and in the event you catch up to him he will clinch, duck below the waist or even throw himself in the floor to avoid fighting there.
It would be fitting the way this tourney is going.
And for all of you claiming foreign fighters can't get a fair decision in America, that's the case in any country.
I don't think it will matter. Ward is going to box his ears off. And besides all that, he got a gift in England against Dirrell, IMO. It would be his penance.
He lost a close decision to Kessler in Denmark so that made up for that.
This is the finals so its important ythat we have no decisions given based on previous verdicts. It needs to be done fairly or it makes the whole tourny look like a joke. Its already clear that Ward was the one who has been groomed to win it from the start by having home advantage everytime whereas everyone else had to travel and lose. My opinion is that they will do everything within their power to prevent Carl from winning this even if he deserves it.
Ward will never give up home advantage so I cant see a Bute fighting the winner either.
Ward will win every minute of that fight so do not worry about him getting screwed.Ward hasnt lost a minute of the whole super 6 competition and yet Froch got a home cooked meal against Dirrell
He lost rounds clearly to Abraham's jab. Now i'm with you in that Direll beat Froch but is was a close fight and I think Dirrell would beat Ward.
If Froch beats him convingly, the fans will know. Hopefully they would be smart and ask for foreign judges to fly in for this fight (experienced ones though)
From Kevin Iole's column New Jersey suspends Williams-Lara judges
He writes, "Williams’ promoter, Dan Goossen, did not seem particularly bothered by Smith’s decision to suspend the judges, though he has a vested interest in toeing the line. Andre Ward, whom Goossen promotes, will meet Carl Froch in the finals of Showtime’s Super 6 tournament on Oct. 29 in Atlantic City."
I'm from NJ but I think they need to move this fight to a different location like Las Vegas or Canada. Ward-Froch is a big fight that deserves fair judging and neutrality. I know that boxing has a long history of bad judging. However, until a full investigation is held concerning all stakeholders in the Williams-Lara fight, NJ shouldn't host a fight for a while, especially when the promoter of the beneficiary of the decision is involved. Any thoughts?
Ward will win every minute of that fight so do not worry about him getting screwed.Ward hasnt lost a minute of the whole super 6 competition and yet Froch got a home cooked meal against Dirrell
What do think about Germany and Canada as boxing countries?
What about Nottingham England? One judge had Witter over Bradley. Another fight Froch-Pascal which was a close fight, 1 judge had it 118-110 and another judge 117-111. And how about Dirrell-Froch? Those 3 were all in Nottingham.
Yeah Bradley wiped the floor with Witter and got a SD, terrible.
I hate to say it, but the problem isn't Oakland nor New Jersey. The problem is America. Foreign fighters can simply not go to that country and expect to win a close one on the cards vs an American fighter, especially some up and comer with a bit of shine on them like Andre Ward.
In fact, Andre Ward has been the lucky recipient of some in-ring calls as well as judging verdicts. For example, there were lots of fouls against Kessler that weren't called and while Ward won the Bika fight, he didn't win by the wide margins the judges had it as.
The problem is in this place or that place. The problem is fighting American fighters in America.
What do think about Germany and Canada as boxing countries?
What about Nottingham England? One judge had Witter over Bradley. Another fight Froch-Pascal which was a close fight, 1 judge had it 118-110 and another judge 117-111. And how about Dirrell-Froch? Those 3 were all in Nottingham.
Froch is guaranteed a fair fight after the Williams Vs. Lara Fiasco......
But at the end of the day he will still lose the fight, S.O.G. will prove to be to much!!!! :boxing:
NJ has some retarded judges, I wouldnt be suprised if Pierre Benoist is judging the fight, he's the tard who had the Pwill-Martinez I fight 119-110.
They need to bring in outside judges, NJ has proven it cant judge/stop them from being bribed.
yeah, hopefully they bring outside judges to NJ for this one....
I hate to say it, but the problem isn't Oakland nor New Jersey. The problem is America. Foreign fighters can simply not go to that country and expect to win a close one on the cards vs an American fighter, especially some up and comer with a bit of shine on them, like Andre Ward.
In fact, Andre Ward has been the lucky recipient of some in-ring calls as well as judging verdicts. For example, there were lots of fouls against Kessler and Bika that weren't called and while Ward won the Bika fight, he didn't win by the wide margins the judges had it as.
The problem is in this place or that place. The problem is fighting American fights in America.
Its sad but you can make a case :guilty:
first Oakland wasnt good enough now new jersey isnt either?
I hate to say it, but the problem isn't Oakland nor New Jersey. The problem is America. Foreign fighters can simply not go to that country and expect to win a close one on the cards vs an American fighter, especially some up and comer with a bit of shine on them like Andre Ward.
In fact, Andre Ward has been the lucky recipient of some in-ring calls as well as judging verdicts. For example, there were lots of fouls against Kessler that weren't called and while Ward won the Bika fight, he didn't win by the wide margins the judges had it as.
The problem is in this place or that place. The problem is fighting American fighters in America.
NJ has some retarded judges, I wouldnt be suprised if Pierre Benoist is judging the fight, he's the tard who had the Pwill-Martinez I fight 119-110.
They need to bring in outside judges, NJ has proven it cant judge/stop them from being bribed.
Given all the decisions that go for American fighters in the USA, I think Froch has got to go for the knockout. He needs to put Ward on the canvas, hopefully more than once. It has too be real decisive. I don't see Froch being able to win a close one on the cards.