First of all im shocked that there has been nothing whatsoever been said by the American posters on this forum about the flagrant ducking and stalling that has been going on by Bradley for not fighting Khan. The plan was always for Khan to fight Bradley if Khan beat Maidana and Bradley beat Alexander which they both did.
Bradleys apostles will bring up Gary Shaw, Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw is Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw I dont see why that should be used as an excuse to duck opponents. Whats all the more tragic is that American posters are normally the first and most ardent people to accuse others of ducking opponents yet are nowhere to be seen or heard when it comes to Bradley.
Its just another case of an African American fighter ducking an Asian fighter, Im sure we all know the most famous case of an African American boxer who refuses to fight Manny Pacquaio, Mayweather has set a bad precedent for other African American boxers: Just duck opponents that can beat you, build up a padded record, Drop PEDS to stall the fight, Drop rival promoters to stall the fight, Drop money to stall the fight, Then cash out in a big fight like Mosley by turning up to collect a payday and not throwing a punch or causing an upset like a good journeyman.
The culture of HBO hand outs and dole outs MUST end, What boxing needs is some kind of Performance related pay, You will find these African American boxers that don't throw a punch in a fight and cash out will be fighting like you never seen them before for their daily bread. The more punches they throw and the more punches they take the more money they will earn.
Tim has a right to conduct his business the best way he sees fit. But there is no justification for not fighting khan unless:
1. He signs with GBP and then fights Khan(of course he is really d!cking SHaw in the a$$ and shaw treated him professionally)
2. he signs with top rank and fights Manny
I'm so tired of this Shaw was a good promoter crap..Bradley wanted to leave Shaw before he fought Alexander and it also held up nego between the two sides..Bradley signed an extension with Shaw for the fight now he wants to part ways(which is a smart move)which is his right..Shaw does not/nore can he get the big fights Bradley is looking for,so what is he suppose to do??Shaw has been with Bradley for yrs and has not promoted him right,the only reason Bradleys name is out there at all is because he has kept winning..F Shaw Bradley is doing the right thing by getting away from him now...
Why would he duck Khan he is the superior fighter,he just wants a payday and i think he has earned it look at the row of killers he beat to get to this point.One fight falling apart means nothing.If Khan takes care of business against Judah the fight will happen.
Tim has a right to conduct his business the best way he sees fit. But there is no justification for not fighting khan unless:
1. He signs with GBP and then fights Khan(of course he is really d!cking SHaw in the a$$ and shaw treated him professionally)
2. he signs with top rank and fights Manny
If it was Khan that ducked Bradley the entire forum would be up in arms, there would be riots in the streets of the US, and there might even be a resolution passed at the United Nations condemning Khan! LOL!
Yet when Bradley ducks Khan the deafening silence is put down to apathy and you go one further to give Bradley a "carte blanche". Perhaps you like the culture of ducking opponents, padding your record, using OST/PEDS and promotors to stall and duck opponents and then claim you arent getting the kind of limelight you deserve because of your race, Or better doing a Mosley and turning up to collect a pay day and not even throwing a punch.
This is the respones you give to that great post??OMG sad really..You also sound like a moron most on this site like Khan,weather they are a real fan or just a d!ck licker like ya self..So if Khan did this same thing there would be morons who don't understand business giving Khan Sh!t and people defending him as well..There would be no diffence...
i give bradley full blown carte blanche if he's getting away and out of contract with gary shaw........
i see no reason for bradley to continue with shaw and if there is trouble with your promoter, why deal with any of that while training for your toughest fight.......???
bradley has proven his mettle, he's gone overseas to fight and prove his worth, he's taken the fight to every single one of his opponents and he's outworked them all, even coming off the canvas to get wins, THE HARD WAY WITHOUT A KO WIN from getting up after being dropped.....
bradley isnt ducking anyone and he's not waiting for someone to get beat up and worn out like mayweather does, wait for all the competition to fight one another then come back after everyone has been soften up..... that aint bradley's M.O.......
there are elements that none of us have any clue about when it comes to the stickiness of contracts with a promoter that you want to get rid of....... especially the pervert shaw.........
bradley will fight khan, or whoever else, he's not afraid, he's taking care of his business first before anything else so he can completely focus on his fight training..........
yall just need to be patient........ bradley is coming to take some scalps...... don't worry.
If it was Khan that ducked Bradley the entire forum would be up in arms, there would be riots in the streets of the US, and there might even be a resolution passed at the United Nations condemning Khan! LOL!
Yet when Bradley ducks Khan the deafening silence is put down to apathy and you go one further to give Bradley a "carte blanche". Perhaps you like the culture of ducking opponents, padding your record, using OST/PEDS and promotors to stall and duck opponents and then claim you arent getting the kind of limelight you deserve because of your race, Or better doing a Mosley and turning up to collect a pay day and not even throwing a punch.
First of all im shocked that there has been nothing whatsoever been said by the American posters on this forum about the flagrant ducking and stalling that has been going on by Bradley for not fighting Khan. The plan was always for Khan to fight Bradley if Khan beat Maidana and Bradley beat Alexander which they both did.
Bradleys apostles will bring up Gary Shaw, Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw is Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw I dont see why that should be used as an excuse to duck opponents. Whats all the more tragic is that American posters are normally the first and most ardent people to accuse others of ducking opponents yet are nowhere to be seen or heard when it comes to Bradley.
Its just another case of an African American fighter ducking an Asian fighter, Im sure we all know the most famous case of an African American boxer who refuses to fight Manny Pacquaio, Mayweather has set a bad precedent for other African American boxers: Just duck opponents that can beat you, build up a padded record, Drop PEDS to stall the fight, Drop rival promoters to stall the fight, Drop money to stall the fight, Then cash out in a big fight like Mosley by turning up to collect a payday and not throwing a punch or causing an upset like a good journeyman.
The culture of HBO hand outs and dole outs MUST end, What boxing needs is some kind of Performance related pay, You will find these African American boxers that don't throw a punch in a fight and cash out will be fighting like you never seen them before for their daily bread. The more punches they throw and the more punches they take the more money they will earn.
i give bradley full blown carte blanche if he's getting away and out of contract with gary shaw........
i see no reason for bradley to continue with shaw and if there is trouble with your promoter, why deal with any of that while training for your toughest fight.......???
bradley has proven his mettle, he's gone overseas to fight and prove his worth, he's taken the fight to every single one of his opponents and he's outworked them all, even coming off the canvas to get wins, THE HARD WAY WITHOUT A KO WIN from getting up after being dropped.....
bradley isnt ducking anyone and he's not waiting for someone to get beat up and worn out like mayweather does, wait for all the competition to fight one another then come back after everyone has been soften up..... that aint bradley's M.O.......
there are elements that none of us have any clue about when it comes to the stickiness of contracts with a promoter that you want to get rid of....... especially the pervert shaw.........
bradley will fight khan, or whoever else, he's not afraid, he's taking care of his business first before anything else so he can completely focus on his fight training..........
yall just need to be patient........ bradley is coming to take some scalps...... don't worry.
Seems to me that no one was really excited by Tim 'Billy Goat' Bradley anyway.
Just when he was starting to get some light, he stepped out of it and took the wind out of his sails.
People haven't given Bradley a free pass so much as people have began to care even less about Bradley than they already did, if that's even possible.
i never thought bradley would beat khan, i guess that's why he's been avoiding him. either way, fukk bradley, his fights will never appeal interesting to me, and i doubt he's ever going to amount to anything more than what he already has done. if he doesn't end up fighting khan and trying to unify the division, dude needs to dissapear off the face of the earth, kind of how he's doing right now.
I don't know man, I thought it was about as ripe as it's gonna get. They are both fringe of moving to WW, they are both the last one's standing in the 140 pound division. . . Bradley stood to make EASILY double of what he has ever made before. He was making more money than any other boxer not fighting floyd or pac would make.
He is leaving Shaw, and ducking Khan because he wants to fight Pacquiao and get a guaranteed payday of around 3-4 million. If he loses to Khan, then he would move further back in line for pacquiao. He is also GUARANTEED a million dollar payday for his next fight on HBO opponent notwithstanding.
If he was 100% confident of beating Khan, he would have taken the fight, made the 3 million, AND then been guaranteed a pacquiao fight immediately. RATHER, he knows Khan will beat him, so he is taking "the road MOST travelled by". - the "easy", "more secure" way.
I can see them meeting at WW. I don't think either Bradley or Khan are a household name, they are both young with fewer than 30 pro fights each. They are both improving and getting better. This only applies given that Tim Bradley is not a ***** and eventually fights Khan.
What I am reading is
A) Is he isn't well known therefore it is ok to duck.
B) He has contractual issues, which is fine, but he has had these issues for awhile now, he needs to get his **** sorted.
First of all im shocked that there has been nothing whatsoever been said by the American posters on this forum about the flagrant ducking and stalling that has been going on by Bradley for not fighting Khan. The plan was always for Khan to fight Bradley if Khan beat Maidana and Bradley beat Alexander which they both did.
Bradleys apostles will bring up Gary Shaw, Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw is Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw I dont see why that should be used as an excuse to duck opponents. Whats all the more tragic is that American posters are normally the first and most ardent people to accuse others of ducking opponents yet are nowhere to be seen or heard when it comes to Bradley.
Its just another case of an African American fighter ducking an Asian fighter, Im sure we all know the most famous case of an African American boxer who refuses to fight Manny Pacquaio, Mayweather has set a bad precedent for other African American boxers: Just duck opponents that can beat you, build up a padded record, Drop PEDS to stall the fight, Drop rival promoters to stall the fight, Drop money to stall the fight, Then cash out in a big fight like Mosley by turning up to collect a payday and not throwing a punch or causing an upset like a good journeyman.
The culture of HBO hand outs and dole outs MUST end, What boxing needs is some kind of Performance related pay, You will find these African American boxers that don't throw a punch in a fight and cash out will be fighting like you never seen them before for their daily bread. The more punches they throw and the more punches they take the more money they will earn.
you do realize that more time between the fight means more buildup, more trash talk, more on the line and more money, right?
First of all im shocked that there has been nothing whatsoever been said by the American posters on this forum about the flagrant ducking and stalling that has been going on by Bradley for not fighting Khan. The plan was always for Khan to fight Bradley if Khan beat Maidana and Bradley beat Alexander which they both did.
Bradleys apostles will bring up Gary Shaw, Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw is Timothy Bradleys problem with Gary Shaw I dont see why that should be used as an excuse to duck opponents. Whats all the more tragic is that American posters are normally the first and most ardent people to accuse others of ducking opponents yet are nowhere to be seen or heard when it comes to Bradley.
Its just another case of an African American fighter ducking an Asian fighter, Im sure we all know the most famous case of an African American boxer who refuses to fight Manny Pacquaio, Mayweather has set a bad precedent for other African American boxers: Just duck opponents that can beat you, build up a padded record, Drop PEDS to stall the fight, Drop rival promoters to stall the fight, Drop money to stall the fight, Then cash out in a big fight like Mosley by turning up to collect a payday and not throwing a punch or causing an upset like a good journeyman.
The culture of HBO hand outs and dole outs MUST end, What boxing needs is some kind of Performance related pay, You will find these African American boxers that don't throw a punch in a fight and cash out will be fighting like you never seen them before for their daily bread. The more punches they throw and the more punches they take the more money they will earn.
Let's not act like Bradley didn't try and fight Khan before when Khan said he wants to make some money before he fight the big fights against guys like Bradley. Now b/c he's got a pair hanging from damn near getting destroyed Timmys ducking Amir. GTFO!!
floyd has to promote with his mouth, manny promotes with his fists. . .
I think they both promote with their fist,Floyd is just better at promoting with his mouth..
You don;t want salesmen in boxing...you want hard-workers makin beautiful fights happen on time and regular. And when they make them they put their heart onto it.
What Mayweather is doing now is all good to see. Its great but its not what a man on the street wants to see.
I want a fighter who is gonna get that three fight a year, maybe two fights a year in...and Mayweather is too old for that.
He keeps taking beaks and resting.....so bad and makes the standard in the rest of the school drop cos they all get lazy ass.
That would be really great if boxing worked like that but it just does not..Boxing is a sport but it's also a business,in a perfect world Pac May Bradley Khan all would have happen already..But Boxers want to get paid even Euro fighters..
Exactly..... He's irrelevant and I dont care for him now, or ever.
oddly enough this is how I feel too. I forgot Bradley existed for a while after Khan vs Judah was signed, only was reminded when this thread was made.
lol u must not have seen my posts straight blasting on bradley, then. HBO doesn't intentionally set out to be in situations like this - but they have to end up offering all these extra guarantees and bonuses JUST to get some of the best american fighters to NUTT the **** up and take a dangerous fight. . .
i know timmy, as a man, has to look out for his wife and kid first, and the fans second. but the kind of money he was set to make against khan it gets pretty hard to keep defending on the basis of "feeding my family". . .
The funny thing is Bradley is the one who has lost out, He will be stripped of his WBC/WBO titles because he is not defending them, He is moving up to welterweight and because he is a pygmy I doubt he will win a title in that division. So his chances of getting a pay day against Khan are lost. Its just another cause of a boxer shooting himself in the foot or cutting off his own nose to spite his face.
I like the Mayweather I see in the ring. I don't like the man he is or anythin about him, includin his attitude towards the sport.
He treats like a coin-purse.
On the other hand Gary Shaw should get a healthy kickback to keep quiet and leave Timmy alone.
I mean say what ya will about May but he is keeping boxing alive(as far as the casual fan is concerned)I love Pacmonster but he is not the salesman May is..