here's one from yahoo:
New deflection in Mayweather-Pacquiao testing controversy: Fan’s takeBy Paul Magno, Yahoo! Contributor Network
When we last spoke, we were going back and forth about Arum's comment that Manny will do random blood testing as long as it's not by the USADA.
I said that Floyd's side should agree to use another organization that would perform the random blood tests, and I was attacked by a bunch of idiots. I was asked to name other organizations that could do such testing, as if I should know as a boxing fan.
The point that I made was that, in order for the fight to be made, Team Mayweather should agree to random blood testing by a credible organization other than the USADA. I never said that there was something wrong with the USADA, but just that this should be done for the fight to be made.
With that said, check out what Richard Schaefer said, representing Team Mayweather, about random blood testing:
Be sure to scroll down to the date of Decemeber 26, 2009, and read the comments made by Schaefer.
http://fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html
Funny how all the Pac fans ignore REAL news when it hits the stand even though this is old news.
By giving the silent treatment, they all know now who held up this fight for the past 2 years.
What better way to say "I told you so".....
Whats worse is some of these so called respected writers do it, oh well they'll have to address it sooner or later.
I understand why Pacquiao doesn't want to get his blood drawn, I was about to eat this Pork fried rice and it had onions, PAC's afraid of the word random and i'm afraid of eating onions. I get it now
lol the pactards actually cheer for Arum because he is associated with their god manny... :rofl:
wha is real pactards?
"It's a symbol for your desire to return to reality. In your dreams you'll fall asleep."
Funny how all the Pac fans ignore REAL news when it hits the stand even though this is old news.
By giving the silent treatment, they all know now who held up this fight for the past 2 years.
What better way to say "I told you so".....
ESPN Chat
Hey dan, what do you make of Arum's stance on USADA, and why has this never been brought up before. Manny makes a living in the U.S, fights for U.S. boxing commissions and has american judges at his fights. So why is USADA an issue?
Dan Rafael (12:18 PM)
I have no idea. Bob says a lot of goofy stuff. I'm not too worried about it at this point. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao have fall fights. When they are over, and if they both win, I will care.
When its Arum being made a fool of, it becomes "I have no idea" & "I will care" at another time. lol. These writers and sites have picked their side and are not budging.
Was there any clarification with regards to the time Pac would be training in the Philippines? From the interview, the WADA person said that the USADA is the local (meaning U.S.) Anti-Doping agency and it will provide testing for a number of very high-profile sports in America. However, it was not specified whether it can perform testing outside of the U.S.. Will Pac be tested by the NADO in the Philippines since it has the jurisdiction over Filipino athletes or would USADA's jurisdiction extend to the Philippines?
This question is very relevant because if the host country would have jurisdiction over any foreign athlete who will compete in the host's country, even if that athlete will be training in another country, then it follows that, in international games like the Olympics, the host country can legally test any foreign athlete anywhere in the world. China then could have demanded for Phelps, all the members of the U.S. basketball team and the rest of the U.S. athletes, to undergo the Chinese Anti-Doping Agency test while they were training in the U.S...
The NADO from the Philippines would test Pacquiao while he is training in the Philippines and it would be handed over to USADA while he is training in the USA. It would make no logistical sense to have USADA testing Pacquiao in the Philippines. Whatever NADO organization in the Philippines or SE Asia that the WADA has accredited is the one that will test Pacquiao while he is training in a different country.
There are all types of different sporting events that happen all over the world. This would be nothing new.
This isn't news. I can't believe some people were actually hanging on to Bob Arum's words and assumed that WADA could just get up and start testing people themselves if they wanted to.
I was trying to explain this to dum dums the other day that the wada will only use the usada because they are the accredited nado for competition in the united states .
But those dummies think the wada is going to let the nasc to satisfy bob arum. Lol
Even he can no longer defend this charade. Even if his hero is in question. I know, I know.............it must suck knowing that your hero's accomplishments are all a LIE.
I put ALL of Manny's accomplishments on hold from the first Morales fight onward, UNTIL HE TAKES THE TESTS.
FUKK MANNY PACQUIAO, AND FUKK TOP RANK.
fuck top rank indeed.
How 'sudden' do you consider 2009?
And why hasn't Floyd or his people answered yet another public declaration by Manny's side that they are willing to do full, random, unlimited OS testing? Too busy burning bills and printing t-shirts? :thinking:
Weak. Kudos for trying though.
Besides, i thought Manny agreed to everything months ago, but gayweather was "on vacation." So if Manny agreed months ago, why do we have a sudden issue with USADA doing the testing???
How 'sudden' do you consider 2009?
And why hasn't Floyd or his people answered yet another public declaration by Manny's side that they are willing to do full, random, unlimited OS testing? Too busy burning bills and printing t-shirts? :thinking:
here's one from yahoo:
New deflection in Mayweather-Pacquiao testing controversy: Fan’s takeBy Paul Magno, Yahoo! Contributor Network
Garnering headlines and stoking the fading fire of a potential Mayweather-Pacquiao mega-fight, Top Rank promoter, Bob Arum, just came out with a statement that can only be considered a Grade-A deflection and yet another hurdle that seems more focused on avoidance than compromise.
"We have agreed in the Pacquiao camp to unlimited random testing done by a responsible, neutral organization." Arum told AC/Yahoo. "We don't believe USADA is a neutral organization…When you have a Philippine fighter and an American fighter? Wouldn't it be better if it would be done by the Olympic drug-testing organization?"
The USADA that Arum is referring to is the United States Anti-Doping Agency, "the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States."
The non-profit organization, almost completely funded through US government grant, works in conjunction with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), the organization that handles all Olympic testing protocol for performance enhancing drugs (PEDs). The USADA not only uses the exact same procedures and methodology, but they also report directly to WADA, as well as the International Olympic Committee.
In short, the USADA is the only approved organization to administer Olympic-style random testing within the boundaries of the United States. When WADA wants to conduct testing within the US, they turn to the USADA.
"I don't think anybody's test is as vigorous as the test administered by the Olympic Organization," Arum said in the same interview.
But, the USADA does adhere to the same testing protocol. As a matter of fact, they are the ones who actually do the testing.
Arum's apparent new-found love of random testing can be seen as downright insulting to the intelligence of the fans. He supports Olympic-style testing, except not by the agency that actually does it.
The 79-year-old promoter also stated his mistrust of any blood testing not "done under the auspices of a boxing commission."
"We can arrange for the Olympic Organization to handle the test under the supervision of the Athletic commission respective of the state where the fight is going to be held," Arum declared. "USADA tests these two fighters and the Nevada State Athletic Commission is responsible for the fight. So, if one of the fighters is tested dirty, what can happen? I mean, nobody can sort this thing out. This is absolutely absurd!"
So, in essence, Arum is willing to compromise on Olympic-style testing for the fight, except not by the agency that would actually be able to handle it and only under the supervision of a boxing commission not really familiar with testing protocol and not even in favor of utilizing it within their own jurisdiction.
More and more, it looks as though the mega-fight between boxing's two biggest draws will forever be held up by rhetoric, half-truths, and empty words. And Bob Arum, one of the key figures in this mess, just seems content on adding more twists and turns to the already jumbled maze.
Paul Magno was a licensed official in the state of Michoacan, Mexico and a close follower of the sport for more than thirty years. His work can also be found on Fox Sports and The Boxing Tribune. In the past, Paul has done work for Inside Fights, The Queensberry Rules and ******** Boxing.
i bolded the funny parts. Bob prefers testing by the commission, the one that doesn't test for EPO or HGH. The one that doesn't take sampels randomly and often, and the one that more than likely has been complicit in covering up a positive test from ODLH.
Pac fans KNOW Manny is dirty...........they just keep trumpeting on and singing to a new tune everytime their assertions are debunked, which let's face it, is often.
Besides, i thought Manny agreed to everything months ago, but gayweather was "on vacation." So if Manny agreed months ago, why do we have a sudden issue with USADA doing the testing???:omfg:
MANNY IS DIRTY!!!!!! This is just another excuse in a long list of excuses, most of them ridiculously comical.....Manny turned this fight down already. nothing has changed.
THIS FIGHT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AS LONG AS RANDOM BLOOD AND URINE TESTING IS ON THE TABLE.
Haha and then he says nothing..about as simple as it gets.
What am I dealing with Floyd Sr. and Roger here? Can't you read either? I told him to tell me what part he doesn't understand and I'll make it simple for him. I'm waiting.
Sir,
Do you realize you just made ZERO sense?
I understand it's late, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
I'll tell you what, get some sleep and report back to me tomorrow. Sound like a plan?
Can you read? What part of it don't you understand? I'll try to make it simple for you.
14y ago
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