martinez vs calzaghe would've been a sick fight

Calzaghe, ATG? I dunno about that. Sure he had great wins against the best at Super Middleweight but he blantantly ducked Glenn Johnson, Prime RJJ and Prime Bernard Hopkins. Calzaghe might have the edge against Martinez based on Martinez literally getting tired against Williams in their first fight and the fact that he wouldn't be as easy to hit plus he's also quick. It'd be competitive but Calzaghe prolly would win.

Calzaghe could beat Martinez with just his jab if he wanted to. Just too big, and he was as fast as a lmw. He would rehydrate to 180lbs+, easy fight. Imo Prime Winky vs Martinez is a much better fight.

Just saying a lot of people started jumping on the bandwagon. Especially after Pavlik. martinez doesn't have legendary wins like lacy or manfredo that merit such extreme fandom.

Calzaghe would own Martinez. Even though Martinez rehydrates up a lot, he'd be slower than usually, and Calzaghe is a smart fighter, he'd adapt to his style within rounds. Only way Martinez has a chance is if he lands a brutal punch like he did against Paul Williams, but i doubt Calzaghe would let himself be open to be caught like that.

Well, its not Ottke because he is 34-0. no it's not but when i think of the word great sven ottke is the first name that pops into my head as well.

again who is calzaghe? wanna play name that great? who is 35-0 2 weight champ 16 titles defenses name that great!

Calzaghe will be too much for Martinez in every department. Joe will win a decision. Too many people hate on Calzaghe, imo he was one of all time greatest fighters in the world.

46-0 21 title defenses 2 weight champ again who is calzaghe?

They both didn't really land anything significant in the fight except hopkins knocking Calzaghe down in the first. I don't know, that fight was weak sauce. It was the first fight I've actually seen where both men had a hard time landing anything. I don't think its enough to give Hopkins the fight just because he won the first round but neither really did anything after that. You can find pictures online of both Hopkins and Calzaghe landing punches in that fight but there's not alot of photos to back up either claiming the victory in that fight. I think I found like 5 photos of each of them landing like 5 clean shots in that fight. It was just an awful boring fight where nothing happened.that mainly had to do with hopkins insane amount of hugging

They both didn't really land anything significant in the fight except hopkins knocking Calzaghe down in the first. I don't know, that fight was weak sauce. It was the first fight I've actually seen where both men had a hard time landing anything. I don't think its enough to give Hopkins the fight just because he won the first round but neither really did anything after that. You can find pictures online of both Hopkins and Calzaghe landing punches in that fight but there's not alot of photos to back up either claiming the victory in that fight. I think I found like 5 photos of each of them landing like 5 clean shots in that fight. It was just an awful boring fight where nothing happened. why would you need to find photos? just look at the video. calzaghe landed virtually nothing while hopkins landed all the clean punches. hopkins outlanded him by a wide margin in at least 7 rounds but hopkins got tired towards the end so he auto loses. if you get tired all the rounds you dominated earlier retroactively go to calzaghe. weird system but hey it works. oh yeah bika beat calzaghe btw becaus calzaghe got tired and held all fight. he even faked low blows at the end to buy time. proof bika won. fair but firm system.

who is calzaghe??? LOL..... 46-0 21 title defenses 2 weight champ

not sure about 164 for either guy, but it'd be a tough fight. i think if martinez doesn't stop him, the decision goes to calzaghe.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/slburrow/Manfredo.gif The ref is like what the hell just hit me a fly? the ref spent 6 weeks in the infirmary with a collapsed lung and internal bleeding. manfredo is so lucky calzaghe couldn't hit him.

I'm not saying Martinez doesn't have power but, he stops at JMW and a guy with no defense and suddenly he's able to stop a guy with a very reliable chin that's also much bigger than him? Martinez is really a natural JMW, he tends to come into camp heavy nowadays. Have you guys even seen calzaghe fight? The guy has amazing handspeed, decent pop, endless stamina, a very good chin, and a very smart fighter. He may get knocked down sometime during the first 3 rounds but trust me, he would adjust and adapt and dominate him afterwards. No way Serg can endure his pace.

In a fantasy world where Calzaghe was able to get that low, he'd destroy him. Martinez is heavily overrated. Joe is one of the best at adapting to his opponents. Martinez lost a close decision to a sloppy, exposed southpaw and was beat by sheer work-rate. Calzaghe is a freakin' workhorse who is very fast and punches in combination. And lets not forget that Calzaghe won't exactly be standing in front of him like Martinez's last opponents (which allowed him to look more spectacular than he probably is). Calzaghe is not Pavlik, Williams, or Dzinziruk. Don't forget, Calzaghe also has a great chin, so I don't see Sergio knocking him out.

who is calzaghe??? LOL.....

calzaghe wouldve beat martinez

how is this even up for debate? http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/slburrow/Manfredo.gif :lol1: :rofl:

how is this even up for debate? http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff212/slburrow/Manfredo.gif

I think Martinez's limit is 160, hes a career welterweight/jr middleweight. 168 is night and day from 160 especially for a guy that relies alot on his speed.