USADA cannot be considered neutral

Maybe people should go and read about USADA before they say stupid shiet like this.They are a non-profit organization recognized by the US Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States. Yeah, that have to mean they are working for Mayweather! :smashfrea I got this from the other thread perceiving USADA a bit suspicious... Quote: I keep reading how a lot of these Olympic athletes have never tested positive, and how USADA should get off their backs already. But one athlete reportedly testified to the grand jury that he used steroids, and some of the stuff he used was designed to fool the drug tests. Leaking grand jury testimony is deplorable. If USADA's people did that, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I'm also troubled by how USADA has lessened the burden of proof to sanction an athlete, from a positive test to circumstantial evidence. There's an Oklahoma Land Run quality to USADA's prosecution. But now we're told you can take drugs and still pass the drug tests. So what do we do with that knowledge? How do you catch the people who do that? I've always assumed athletes want their sports to be clean. Quote: Armstrong's attorneys say USADA's current offer is for riders to talk to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who could then give the information to USADA. Presumably, the deal would only be worthwhile for riders who are still competing or young enough to return to competition if a ban was lifted. "USADA is promising riders a sweetheart deal if they can produce anything harmful on Armstrong," Herman said. "A rider who has doped, they tell them, 'If you can finger Armstrong, we'll get out the eraser ... and everything is cool.'\u2009" Herman said he could not disclose which rider or riders have been offered a deal. In the past Herman has said that, as a private entity, USADA's deal offer is similar to bribery. Quote: One of the book’s revelations is Landis’ claim that his consultant, Paul Scott, heard from contacts inside the anti-doping community that USADA declined to pursue two strong cases of doping violations by American athletes in the fall of 2006.

What the hell does your post #20 have to do with my comment? If the tests are going to be done, they are going to be paid for before the fight is over, not afterwards. The lead promoter will pay for the tests in advance. So what the hell is your point? My point is this lame a$$ comment is Bob Arum's attempt to save face in the midst of the stupid comments made by Pacquaio's adviser and the continued criticism of Pac for refusing to take the tests when every other fighter from 140 to 154 is willing to take the tests. Arum had no problem with the USADA's neutrality when he was proposing a 14-day cutoff. Now, he does. Anyone but a pactard can see what is going on. Do you not know the word reimbursement?

See post #20. What the hell does your post #20 have to do with my comment? If the tests are going to be done, they are going to be paid for before the fight is over, not afterwards. The lead promoter will pay for the tests in advance. So what the hell is your point? My point is this lame a$$ comment is Bob Arum's attempt to save face in the midst of the stupid comments made by Pacquaio's adviser and the continued criticism of Pac for refusing to take the tests when every other fighter from 140 to 154 is willing to take the tests. Arum had no problem with the USADA's neutrality when he was proposing a 14-day cutoff. Now, he does. Anyone but a pactard can see what is going on.

So childish, all these threads... look at the big picture, we get random OST testing then we get a higher chance of the fight happening. That's what "real" boxing fans want to see.

The USADA was neutral a week ago. A week ago, neither Arum nor any of the Pac nuthuggers on this site had any problem with the USADA. Then, all of a sudden, Pac's adviser tells the truth and sticks his foot in his mouth and admits that Pac never agreed to random tests with no cutoff date. The next day, to save face, Arum claims that the USADA is not neutral and all of Pac's zombies on this site jump on the bandwagon. Exactly, how is the USADA not neutral. Mayweather is not paying the USADA to conduct the tests for the Ortiz fight and he didn't pay them for the Mosley fight. The promoter pays for the test. In both the cases of the Mosley fight and the Ortiz fight, the promoter has been Golden Boy Promotions. If Mayweather fights Pac, since Arum would be the lead promoter in that fight, Top Rank would pay for the tests. If another agency conducted the tests, Top Rank would pay for them. So would the neutral agency favor Pacquaio since Arum would pay for the tests? Your analogy is total bullsh!t! Bob Arum was lying in June 2010. He lied yesterday! He is lying today! He will lie again tommorrow! And all the Pactards will choose to believe whatever lie he tells. See post #20.

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Maybe people should go and read about USADA before they say stupid shiet like this.They are a non-profit organization recognized by the US Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States. Yeah, that have to mean they are working for Mayweather! :smashfrea There is no entity, agency, government or non-governmental organization that is free from being influenced, especially if they are hired by one of the involved party.

OFc people believe everything Bob Arum and Pacs camp says. WTF would a unofficial testing agency be better then the main olympic testing organization in the US? well cuz Bob Arum and the Pac camp said so said so. Pactards are unbelievably gullible. Exactly! Arum and Pac originally said they would only agree to the tests ordered by the NSAC. The NSAC went on record as saying that they could not conduct random blood tests, meaning there would be no random blood tests, which is exactly what Pac and Arum wanted from the beginning.

When there is a disagreement between two parties regarding an accusation by one of the parties, the chosen mediator must be neutral. When the mediator is chosen and paid for by the party that made the accusation, that mediator ceases to be neutral. Whether or not that mediator intends to remain neutral does not change the fact that he is now perceived as being indebted to his benefactor. Under these circumstances, any mediator with integrity has no other recourse but to recuse himself from that responsibility. Even a U.S. judge cannot preside over a case where he has had previous dealings, especially business dealings, with one of the parties involved in a dispute. The USADA was neutral a week ago. A week ago, neither Arum nor any of the Pac nuthuggers on this site had any problem with the USADA. Then, all of a sudden, Pac's adviser tells the truth and sticks his foot in his mouth and admits that Pac never agreed to random tests with no cutoff date. The next day, to save face, Arum claims that the USADA is not neutral and all of Pac's zombies on this site jump on the bandwagon. Exactly, how is the USADA not neutral. Mayweather is not paying the USADA to conduct the tests for the Ortiz fight and he didn't pay them for the Mosley fight. The promoter pays for the test. In both the cases of the Mosley fight and the Ortiz fight, the promoter has been Golden Boy Promotions. If Mayweather fights Pac, since Arum would be the lead promoter in that fight, Top Rank would pay for the tests. If another agency conducted the tests, Top Rank would pay for them. So would the neutral agency favor Pacquaio since Arum would pay for the tests? Your analogy is total bullsh!t! Bob Arum was lying in June 2010. He lied yesterday! He is lying today! He will lie again tommorrow! And all the Pactards will choose to believe whatever lie he tells.

OFc people believe everything Bob Arum and Pacs camp says. WTF would a unofficial testing agency be better then the main olympic testing organization in the US? well cuz Bob Arum and the Pac camp said so said so. Pactards are unbelievably gullible.

Maybe people should go and read about USADA before they say stupid shiet like this.They are a non-profit organization recognized by the US Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States. Yeah, that have to mean they are working for Mayweather! :smashfrea

If they can find a neutral party to agree upon, lets go! :boxing: I have been following these threads, but I need a few questions answered before I hop aboard the "USADA is a puppet organization directed by Floyd to make Pacquiao test dirty" train. Who would pay for the testing in the fight with whatever neutral agency they might select? How would that make a different agency any less "neutral" if the parties involved are still paying them? Who would pay? That's easy. Simply deduct the cost from the total price money. Problem solved.

You want the fight or you just want to keep arguing on PEDs forever? Pac already accepted Floyd OST in Floyd's favor. Why you keep whining about this minor changes when you get with the result you all flomonks wanted badly. Pac already kneeling on Floyd knees just to make this happen because Pac said the fans want it otherwise he doesn't need the coward. What? you want him to lick Floyd balls as well? You flomonks are bunches of whining b!tches. I don't have any problem with it as long both sides agrees which Floyd already has. What pisses me off is how some of y'all pactards are trying to portraying USADA as some sort of a corrupt anti-doping agency when none of y'all had any negative complaints to said about it before Arum spoke up.

im fine with it but which neutral agency brah? WADA is one and they can assign which laboratory will conduct the testing, or they can even give it to USADA but under their supervision. They can also impose the IOC drug testing rule which states that they can take blood and urine samples, both during, or in-competition, as well as out-of-competition which can occur at anytime, at any location, without any advance notice.

How can the USADA be considered unbiased if it was chosen and paid for by Floyd? They are performing the role of an investigator hired by the accuser. There are many ways to favor one party over the other. Just because USADA is a government created agency does not guarantee that it is beyond being influenced. which neutral agency brah?

USADA is a racial black owned anti-doping testing agency which happen to rig its athletes of other race test results, so it can't be trusted. Therefore, it's best if WADA insist for China Anti-Doping Agency (CHINADA) to handle it all with the assistance of NSAC just to make it more fair. You want the fight or you just want to keep arguing on PEDs forever? Pac already accepted Floyd OST in Floyd's favor. Why you keep whining about this minor changes when you get with the same result you all flomonks wanted badly. Pac already kneeling on Floyd knees just to make this happen because Pac said the fans want it otherwise he doesn't need the coward. What? you want him to lick Floyd balls as well? You flomonks are bunches of whining b!tches.

Look at Arum. That dude is genius. Spews some non-sense and the gullible fans of his cash cow eat it up. USADA is a racial black owned anti-doping testing agency which happen to rig its athletes of other race test results, so it can't be trusted. Therefore, it's best if WADA insist for China Anti-Doping Agency (CHINADA) to handle it all with the assistance of NSAC just to make it more fair.

usada is not a us judge and what ur saying does not at all make sense in this case. usada is not a meidator. they are in the business of anti doping. what the hell would they get by "siding" with floyd on this? a bad reputation. a bad reputation, something that would hurt their business. u guys are making analogies that just dont make common sense. You want the fight or you just want to keep arguing on PEDs forever? Pac already kneeling on Floyd knees just to make this happen because Pac said the fans want it otherwise he doesn't need the coward. What? you want him to lick Floyd balls as well? You flomonks are bunches of whining b!tches.