This isnt the NFL, NBA or NCAA Basketball and Football.
The crowd has no bearing on the game/boxing match. They cant yell so loud that you cant hear your trainer. They dont make your chin stronger. They dont make you hit harder and most of all they dont judge fights.
There is no such thing as a home court advantage in boxing. It doesnt exist. I see people whining all the time about Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Felix Sturm and even one troll said Floyd has an advantage at MGM because he lives in Vegas.
How did the home court advantage work out in Williams-Margarito? Thats right it didnt. Paul went into Margs backyard, beat him and took his belt.
The home court advantage thing is highly annoying. Anyone remember Gatti-Floyd? Floyd had like 4 people in the crowd who wanted him to win.
The crowd doesnt throw punches.
That's ****ing embarrassing, Burner.
"Hometown advantage" doesn't just mean geographical location. Having that advantage means you have the fight in your backyard; the judges, promoters, ref. are working more in your favor than in the other guy. Not being unbiased is what is implied.
You REALLY think that boxing is completely fair and unbiased? Seriously. You're not that stupid. No way. You have to just be trolling at point.
Ey dipshyt when did I say that?
This isnt the NFL, NBA or NCAA Basketball and Football.
The crowd has no bearing on the game/boxing match. They cant yell so loud that you cant hear your trainer. They dont make your chin stronger. They dont make you hit harder and most of all they dont judge fights.
There is no such thing as a home court advantage in boxing. It doesnt exist. I see people whining all the time about Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Felix Sturm and even one troll said Floyd has an advantage at MGM because he lives in Vegas.
How did the home court advantage work out in Williams-Margarito? Thats right it didnt. Paul went into Margs backyard, beat him and took his belt.
The home court advantage thing is highly annoying. Anyone remember Gatti-Floyd? Floyd had like 4 people in the crowd who wanted him to win.
The crowd doesnt throw punches.
the crowd can influence the judges interpratation of a punch...... especially when the judge does not have a good angle to determine its force/power/effectiveness. watch the floyd odl fight on mute, he didnt win any rounds.....maybe 2
It's a mental thing, just like with all the other sports you named. The crowd don't make footballers faster or more skillful; they don't make basketball players taller or more agile . . .
This..........^^
You're wrong.
When the hometown fighter hits his opponent whether it's a stiff jab or a simple weak body punch that lands on the elbow, what does the crowd do?
They scream. Now you can act like the judges aren't affected by that, but they are. I'll admit I get swayed by the crowd from time to time, though I try not to. I believe everyone is.
A perfect example o fthis is the DLH/Mayweather fight. Now this fight should really have been a 8-4, maybe even 9-3 win for Floyd, but the fans went ape**** with every little Oscar flurry so he had people convinced that he won 5-6 rounds when he didn't.
Gatti was STOPPED by Mayweather, and although brave, was no great shakes as a boxer. Don't talk foolishness.
There is a definite Home advantage, If the crowd is uproriously behind the home fighter, it will affetct the decisitons of both judges ans referee, even subconsciously. Where every "near miss" by the home guy causes an uproar, it's bound to and, by admission of several judges whom I have read ove the years, CAN affect the decisions.
As a sidenote, and about as relevant to the topic as your Mayweather-Gatti remark is,...... When Tommy Burns fought Jem Roche in the Dublin Theatre Royal(owners were family friends, and my father and uncles etc got comps) before a packed house (3000 plus) The crowd expected Roche to win.
When he was KO'd in the 1st rd. the crowd went crazy, came looking for both the ref and Burns. They escaped, although I heard that the ref was rescued from being torn to pieces by the Constabulary. They had to escape from the country secretly during the night, evading roaming bands of drunks.
They left behind them a sparring partner who was sick, and who stayed the rest of his life in Dublin. I used to meet him when he was a very old man, hobbling along the Sth. Cir. Rd. in Dublin. Very tall, very black, immacuately dressed in a black frockcoat, with a cane, although threadbare. My uncle always stopped to talk old times. He lived well into the 1950's. I'd bet money that he was once the only black man in the whole country. My unc was a Carnival fighter as a kid, and lived healthily until aged 96.
Yeah, and I suppose the crowd shouting "Ooooooh" every time their fighter lands a punch on the opponent's forearms doesn't make a difference in the judging at all...Kotelnik begs to differ.
That's ****ing embarrassing, Burner.
"Hometown advantage" doesn't just mean geographical location. Having that advantage means you have the fight in your backyard; the judges, promoters, ref. are working more in your favor than in the other guy. Not being unbiased is what is implied.
You REALLY think that boxing is completely fair and unbiased? Seriously. You're not that stupid. No way. You have to just be trolling at point.
The crowd influences the judges when they cheer for every punch the home fighter throws even tho it's not landing.
The examples you gave are retarded because Floyd stopped gatti and Margarito never really got into the fight until very late.
This isnt the NFL, NBA or NCAA Basketball and Football.
The crowd has no bearing on the game/boxing match. They cant yell so loud that you cant hear your trainer. They dont make your chin stronger. They dont make you hit harder and most of all they dont judge fights.
There is no such thing as a home court advantage in boxing. It doesnt exist. I see people whining all the time about Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Felix Sturm and even one troll said Floyd has an advantage at MGM because he lives in Vegas.
How did the home court advantage work out in Williams-Margarito? Thats right it didnt. Paul went into Margs backyard, beat him and took his belt.
The home court advantage thing is highly annoying. Anyone remember Gatti-Floyd? Floyd had like 4 people in the crowd who wanted him to win.
The crowd doesnt throw punches.
the crowd influences the judges.
This isnt the NFL, NBA or NCAA Basketball and Football.
The crowd has no bearing on the game/boxing match. They cant yell so loud that you cant hear your trainer. They dont make your chin stronger. They dont make you hit harder and most of all they dont judge fights.
There is no such thing as a home court advantage in boxing. It doesnt exist. I see people whining all the time about Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Felix Sturm and even one troll said Floyd has an advantage at MGM because he lives in Vegas.
How did the home court advantage work out in Williams-Margarito? Thats right it didnt. Paul went into Margs backyard, beat him and took his belt.
The home court advantage thing is highly annoying. Anyone remember Gatti-Floyd? Floyd had like 4 people in the crowd who wanted him to win.
The crowd doesnt throw punches.
Gatti was STOPPED by Mayweather, and although brave, was no great shakes as a boxer. Don't talk foolishness.
There is a definite Home advantage, If the crowd is uproriously behind the home fighter, it will affetct the decisitons of both judges ans referee, even subconsciously. Where every "near miss" by the home guy causes an uproar, it's bound to and, by admission of several judges whom I have read ove the years, CAN affect the decisions.
This isnt the NFL, NBA or NCAA Basketball and Football.
The crowd has no bearing on the game/boxing match. They cant yell so loud that you cant hear your trainer. They dont make your chin stronger. They dont make you hit harder and most of all they dont judge fights.
There is no such thing as a home court advantage in boxing. It doesnt exist. I see people whining all the time about Devon Alexander, Andre Ward, Felix Sturm and even one troll said Floyd has an advantage at MGM because he lives in Vegas.
How did the home court advantage work out in Williams-Margarito? Thats right it didnt. Paul went into Margs backyard, beat him and took his belt.
The home court advantage thing is highly annoying. Anyone remember Gatti-Floyd? Floyd had like 4 people in the crowd who wanted him to win.
The crowd doesnt throw punches.
I don't agree the crowd plays a major part in how fights are scored and how most perceive a fight to have went..Devon vs Kottie is a prime example of this,when a fighter is barely landing a punch the crowd is going crazy for jabs can swing a close rd the hometown fav's way..Having a fight in ya hometown will always be an advantage..
To say a home crowd plays no effect is plain silly. But nonetheless...
A home crowd has the potential to influence what the judges see and their scoring. That in my book is home court advantage.
Some fighters can overcome being in another guy's backyard - and some can't. To say a home court advantage doesn't factor into boxing, though, I think is a little off base.
It's a close fight, counter puncher against an activity fighter - but the busier guy is fighting at home. He has thousands of people roaring every time he throws a punch that comes close to connecting; even when the shots don't cleanly connect.
Mentally, the guy who throws less is slowly starting to feel he's falling behind- even if the judges themselves still have it quite close- because of the crowd's boisterous approval of every combination his opponent throws. It gets to the counter puncher and, psychologically, he gets off his game plan and late in the fight opens up when he shouldn't- fearing the fight is almost gone- gets clocked, and put to sleep. Why? Home court advantage.
That's my opinion.
I strongly disagree. The crowd is everything in a boxing match. They influence the judges/decisions more often than not, as well as drive their fighter to perform at their best. I'd argue that the "home court advantage" is more of a factor in boxing than it is in football.
Well, I have seen fighters get hometown decisions, that they probably wouldn't have gotten in other places.
I mean, there have been instances of hometown fighters, getting hometown judges, or a hometown ref. And that, my friend, is an unfair hometown advantage.
Do you think Malignaggi would have lost a unanimous decision (with a 118-110 scorecard in there) to Juan Diaz, if the fight had been in Brooklyn?
But, when a hometown fighter wins, no matter what, there are always going to be idiots in NSB blowing up with "so and so got robbed" threads.
I think HCA is alive and well in all sports. First, you have the issue of being a hometown fighter in a situation where the cards are lined up by your manager/promoters to win.
Secondly, all those intangibles I think to do happen more often than not. The energy of the crowd can propel a man to break through their own limits and achieve something more. Its the old cliche, "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts".
In Football for instance, players traditionally play better at home, its not common for teams to have better away records than home records, although it has happened. Their is comfort in not having to travel, and most importantly, comfort and energy from hearing a crowd roar to elevate you.
you can pretend it doesn't exist but it does. the home boxer is more motivated. has crowd cheering for him for every good action he does=affects judges for sure, and may affect the referee too. of course if the other boxer wins by KO then the home advantage is gone.