I understand that there is a group of people who feel that TRADA (Top Rank Anti Doping Agency) is more legitimate, competent and unbiased than USADA (United States Anti Doping Agency).
OK, fine.
So, go ahead and name all of the athletes who have been cheated by USADA.
Tests administered by USADA: http://www.usada.org/testing-statistics
http://www.steroids.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/USADA_Logo_300DPI-640x323.jpg
usda also did not bust marion jones so how effective are these people
they were not in existence during the games where she won all those gold medals nephew
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I got this quotes form previous threads, and it shows how incompetent USADA can be....
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I keep reading how a lot of these Olympic athletes have never tested positive, and how USADA should get off their backs already. But one athlete reportedly testified to the grand jury that he used steroids, and some of the stuff he used was designed to fool the drug tests. Leaking grand jury testimony is deplorable. If USADA's people did that, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I'm also troubled by how USADA has lessened the burden of proof to sanction an athlete, from a positive test to circumstantial evidence. There's an Oklahoma Land Run quality to USADA's prosecution. But now we're told you can take drugs and still pass the drug tests. So what do we do with that knowledge? How do you catch the people who do that? I've always assumed athletes want their sports to be clean.
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Armstrong's attorneys say USADA's current offer is for riders to talk to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who could then give the information to USADA.
Presumably, the deal would only be worthwhile for riders who are still competing or young enough to return to competition if a ban was lifted.
"USADA is promising riders a sweetheart deal if they can produce anything harmful on Armstrong," Herman said. "A rider who has doped, they tell them, 'If you can finger Armstrong, we'll get out the eraser ... and everything is cool.'\u2009"
Herman said he could not disclose which rider or riders have been offered a deal. In the past Herman has said that, as a private entity, USADA's deal offer is similar to bribery.
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One of the book’s revelations is Landis’ claim that his consultant, Paul Scott, heard from contacts inside the anti-doping community that USADA declined to pursue two strong cases of doping violations by American athletes in the fall of 2006.
LOL all of you guys putting the blame on Pacquiao when it's merely the scumbag who's running his mouth on all these.
All of yo rants are gonna be valid, IF PAC HIMSELF said all these.
Don't tell me he's not his own man, coz he isn't. He's a YES-man to Bob!
Bob's the one running the show, and you guys know it.
And LOL at Dios spinning all these with a touch of bashing The Philippines! Too fukkin low!
now Arum is a flomo LOL facts facts facts......
I understand that there is a group of people who feel that TRADA (Top Rank Anti Doping Agency) is more legitimate, competent and unbiased than USADA (United States Anti Doping Agency).
OK, fine.
So, go ahead and name all of the athletes who have been cheated by USADA.
Tests administered by USADA: http://www.usada.org/testing-statistics
http://www.steroids.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/USADA_Logo_300DPI-640x323.jpg
real sports of hbo already did a documentary on usda and how inadequate they were on detecting steroid users. one time they ban an olympian for using rogaine even though he informed them that he was using rogaine
WADA is not a testing agency.
Get your facts straight first. WADA does NOT perform testing.
You may say that WADA is the governing body of all international meets under the IOC, but for the richest event in the last century to happen, even the president of WADA will have no problem doing it himself... WADA on Olympic season only requires local agencies to do the tests for them and help them because of the sheer number of athletes that were needed to be tested in such a short period of time, but we are only talking about 2 athletes here and it will take maybe an atmost of 2-3 competent staff from WADA to do the job, so now what is wrong with that??... As you say USADA works under the supervision of WADA, so simple logic will say, there is nothing wrong of them asking WADA to do the tests for them...
the USADA isn't a nuetral party?
when did they become controversial and biased towards americans?
Bob arum opens his mouth and you clowns fall right in line every time
It never fails.
So you would feel comfortable defending Floyd because he refuses to use the biggest testing agency in the world? I'm sure even Floyd is ok with WADA.
WADA is not a testing agency.
Get your facts straight first. WADA does NOT perform testing.
If USADA is not neutral then who is?
Pac fights in the USA
Trains in the USA
Makes millions in the USA
The fight between Mayweather vs Pacquiao would be in the USA
Has an American Promoter and Trainer
I don't get it. The United States Anti Doping Agency isn't neutral all of a sudden?
Why doesn't Pacquaio fight in the Philippines?
You trust your American trainer and Promoter.
You also said that the NSAC testing was the best commission in boxing. So you trust the NSAC but not USADA?
Please explain
Arum is just reaching, they can use the phillipino drug testing agency for all he likes, they would still implement the same protocol that is govern by WADA.
If USADA is not neutral then who is?
Pac fights in the USA
Trains in the USA
Makes millions in the USA
The fight between Mayweather vs Pacquiao would be in the USA
Has an American Promoter and Trainer
I don't get it. The United States Anti Doping Agency isn't neutral all of a sudden?
Why doesn't Pacquaio fight in the Philippines?
You trust your American trainer and Promoter.
You also said that the NSAC testing was the best commission in boxing. So you trust the NSAC but not USADA?
Please explain
So you would feel comfortable defending Floyd because he refuses to use the biggest testing agency in the world? I'm sure even Floyd is ok with WADA.
I would, their size is irrelevant and their competency can be questioned.
WADA has shown incompetence in testing athletes in the past so theres no debate.
So you would feel comfortable defending Floyd because he refuses to use the biggest testing agency in the world? I'm sure even Floyd is ok with WADA.
Are we seriously debating that WADA is not good enough for testing now?
WADA has shown incompetence in testing athletes in the past so theres no debate.
We have reached agreement on that.
Except that I am in favor of drug testing because professional boxers have told me that PED use is rampant in the sport.
Its an impossible war to win though. As soon as new testing procedures are created drugs are created to beat them. Its a never ending cycle. Boxers of the past have used stimulants and other PEDs to gain advantages over their opponents, its an unfixable problem. Only way to lower the amount of cheating going on is to lower the amount of ways in which an athlete can cheat. If its not illegal its not cheating.
:haha: man, pac must be a very special fighter. :haha:
look at these dumb floyd apologists. easy fight, easy money.
yet how many boxers out there were demanded the most stringent test ever demanded of a fighter? this to a boxer they call one dimensional, amateurish, ordinary, fought nothing but bums coming out of losses, etc?
i just love these threads.
i now believe that these apologists are not real boxing fans.
these are homos and sissies. :haha:
keep it up homos!
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I understand your point I just dont understand why any boxing fan is excited about more reasons to delay big fights, especially if we all understand that these tests arent perfect. Im against testing in general, for those reasons, as far as USADA being corrupt they're not. If you're going to get tested may as well be by the USADA, but I say fuck all this extra testing in general.
We have reached agreement on that.
Except that I am in favor of drug testing because professional boxers have told me that PED use is rampant in the sport.
That's what I am saying. Their job is to test and report. That's it. HOW that substance got into your body (possibly innocently) has nothing to do with USADA.
Imagine that you have a poppy bagel, and then go take a pre-employment drug test. ChoicePoint reports that you have opiates in your system.
Is it ChoicePoint's fault? NO
Are you innocent? YES
Two separate issues.
I understand your point I just dont understand why any boxing fan is excited about more reasons to delay big fights, especially if we all understand that these tests arent perfect. Im against testing in general, for those reasons, as far as USADA being corrupt they're not. If you're going to get tested may as well be by the USADA, but I say fuck all this extra testing in general.