Just rewatched Wlad vs. Haye.

Having watch it again since last week, I was surprise the fight went 12 rounds.. The hype surrounding the fight made it look like the fight was bad, but I knew it would be a cautions fight, another surprise for me was Haye was able to make Wlad miss with that jab, I thought he would be tagged a lot more than he did, especially with the way Ruiz was able to tagged him with his jab in their fight.

It was a bad fight. Maybe everyone else's standards for a heavyweight fight have fallen, but it doesn't change that Wlad-Haye was bad.

Steward gave the right advice. Wlad was winning rounds because of 2 hard shots. Haye may have got one. The final stats were 105 jabs and a total of 134 shots landed. So it tells you that Wlad didn't do that much. Klitschko 134/509 ; Haye 72/290 (haye landed 36 jabs) if you look at some of klitschkos other punch stats, it's really not much different from his output over the last few years. it's just that he usually isnt fighting someone who's not willing to engage as much as haye wasn't. here's an excerpt from an article i found on the compubox website.. "Klitschko has outlanded his last four opponents 632-188 in total punches. In those fights against Hasim Rahman, Ruslan Chagaev, Eddie Chambers and Samuel Peter, Klitschko was both perfect soldier and supreme ring general. Of Klitschko's combined 52.6 total punches thrown per round, 36.7 of them -- 70 percent -- were jabs. Of those 632 landed punches, 421 (or 67%) were jabs. He out-landed Rahman 134-15, Peter 53-9, Chambers 124-54 and Chagaev 110-26 but his connect percentages have steadily gone down (50.3 Rahman, 30.6 Chagaev, 24.2 Chambers and 19.6 Peter). Still, he won virtually every round because his rivals mustered a token counter-attack, landing an average of FIVE, yes FIVE total punches per round."

It was good to see Heavyweights lasting 12 rounds and still giving it their all not puffed out after a couple of rounds. It was a very tactical fight and i expected that, Wlad was never going to fight any differently, Haye was never going to go in there all guns blazing despite what both said. It was definitely the pre-fight hype that killed it. Both promised spectacular KO's and both didn't deliver. Haye's limited punch output was another contributing factor as it made it look like he wasn't trying to all the casual fans, when really he was trying he just couldn't get past the size/reach difference. Having said all that, i don't want to see a rematch. If Haye is going to fight again he has to do it against Vitali. But first he's gotta face a top 10 guy to get the interest in a fight between him and Vitali back.

The fight certainly wasn't as one-sided as most people say, Wlad was just winning most of the rounds because of the way he fought, racking up points and keeping the pressure on. I want to see a re-match, there's nothing better at the moment. But facing Vitali would definitely spark some interest again first.

Call me crazy but the fight wasn't that bad. Both guys took flush shots and stood up pretty well and the fight was at a very high speed and very tactical. I wouldn't mind watching Haye against Vitaly or even better with a guy like Adamek or Arreola. Your Crazy :) Jokes aside, it wasn't the worst fight i seen but he sure as hell could of been better.

Call me crazy but the fight wasn't that bad. Both guys took flush shots and stood up pretty well and the fight was at a very high speed and very tactical. I wouldn't mind watching Haye against Vitaly or even better with a guy like Adamek or Arreola. ur not crazy ur just a f-uckin dope.thats fight was terrible

the way both men talked in the conference, people thought it would be a big scarp with blows, instead it was a technical fight. Both men were tryingt o outsmart each other in the press conference and both changed tactics once they got into the ring, neither man thought it'd be that type of fight it wasnt a bad fight, unless you wanted a all out fight where a fighter takes a 20 blows to the face per round

I saw the fight live with a bunch of mates, and you could cut the tension with a knife. There was a really palpable sense that anything could change on a dime, and early on Haye's body language, his grinning, his hands down, taunting and the relative ease with which he was avoiding Wlad's shots and landing hard ones of his own made me feel like we were in for a much better fight than I was expecting. By the third I was genuinely getting concerned that Haye might pull it off. Wlad looked really nervous coming to the ring, and that nervous expression didn't leave his face throughout the whole fight. He was also having quite a bit more trouble than usual landing his hard shots and looking (I hate to perpetuate a stereotype) a bit limited and robotic. Obviously the fight in hindsight wasn't a classic, but the uncertainty of not knowing what would happen at the time made the fight pretty tense viewing for me. I will definitely say that Haye surprised me with how much better he was than I thought, as well as how much better he could take a hard shot (I already knew Wlad could take several hard shots from Haye). His head movement was excellent, and his timing and punch selection in the early going was spot on. Like in the Valuev fight, Haye displayed a new facet to his game, and showed substantial development as a fighter. Ultimately it was futile of course, since he was fighting someone so much better and more experienced than him, but I won't let that blind me into blanket trashing his performance. (the toe issue is another matter entirely...) A final thought: People familiar with me know I've never been the biggest Haye fan, but I wish to hell that he wasn't such a foul-mouthed arrogant diva because he possesses genuine skill and charisma as a fighter, and brings that razor edge uncertainty to a fight that makes even dull contests interesting. Matched up right I think he could be involved in some classics. But David has to understand now that he's no longer Mr Big Shot. He can't afford to fight once a year against no hopers. He needs to fight often, and he needs to fight fan-friendly fights like he did in his Cruiser days. Whether he'll be willing to do this at this stage of his career or not, I don't know; in fact I highly doubt. But that's what needs to happen if he wants to stick around. He's not getting the rematch, and he doesn't deserve to, and I'm skeptical if he gets (or wants) the Vitali match either. That still leaves plenty of decent opponents to fight: Adamek, Chambers, Povetkin, Chagaev, Boytsov, all men who are more or less the same size as him and bring a different set of skills into the ring. Even guys like Perez or Chisora would make for good matchups. The future's still bright if he's willing to put the work in and drop his obnoxious attitude. I won't shed a tear if he fukks off to Holywood, but I do think the heavyweight division would be a poorer place without him.

I loved the fight... very seldom do i find any fight boring honestly. I found it very fast and technical. IMO it showed how good Wlad actually is. Dude is poise as hell and LIGHTENING fast. His judging of distance is great too.

I enjoyed the fight more or less. Wlad was boxing beautifully, and I like the atmosphere they had there in Germany.

Call me crazy but the fight wasn't that bad. Both guys took flush shots and stood up pretty well and the fight was at a very high speed and very tactical. I wouldn't mind watching Haye against Vitaly or even better with a guy like Adamek or Arreola. I think Haye against guy's like Adamek or Arreola are fights that Haye can win..Haye is not a bad fighter(reminds me of a bigger version of Pascal)but a fight with Vitaly would be a career ending beating for Haye..Vitaly fights at a different pace and risk more in his fights esp when forced to exchange..Wlad should fight Arreola if Arreola wins a few more..

Yeah I hear you with that but it just seems like common sense that if your fighter is winning and his weakness is his chin there is no reason for him to open up unless he was behind. I think it was after 6 or 7 seven rounds, the fight was verry even to that point so Steward thought it could be close. I also thought it was close to that point to be honest. George Foreman scored the fight a draw, lewis gave Haye no rounds. I think both scored verry wrong....

I liked the fight, of course I like Wlad so a lot of guys will say that's the only reason why I liked it, but the fact is that it was a very tense fight, you couldn't tell if something was going to happen next, and because both guys had KO power you could say that at any moment with just one shot any guy could be KOd. exactly, the fight was not that bad. Forget all the talk before the fight and you have a good fight, much better than the other Klitschko fights. Haye was far better then the last opponents.

Yeah, Wlad dominated the fight, but couldn't rule out Haye, he had enough power to put Wlad in trouble. About people that were expecting Mike Tyson or something like that, that's just not logical. Wlad was going to fight the same way he always fights, and Haye was going to look to lure Wlad into his trap to land a hard counter. Wlad was smarter in this fight, his gameplan was better, but Haye did what he could, he knew that if he tried to exchange punches with Wlad he would be KOd... I was expecting Haye to put up a good fight and even KO Wlad. I, like most everyone, wasn't expecting it to go 12.

It was good to see to HWs moving with speed over all 12 rounds. Both in great shape. I thought Haye showed great speed but poor tactics, he was way too cautious. If he had taken some chances like he did in R12 then it could have been a very different night. Wlad was just too clever and experienced.

i missed it live.. but when i did watch it... only thing that was missing was a KO. wasnt as bad as 'some would say

fight sucked and it was Haye's fault been much worse, but the hype was big, fight dulled out

It was pretty intense. But it was apparent Wlad was dominant throughout the fight. Wlad made Haye earn his money in that one. Yeah, Wlad dominated the fight, but couldn't rule out Haye, he had enough power to put Wlad in trouble. About people that were expecting Mike Tyson or something like that, that's just not logical. Wlad was going to fight the same way he always fights, and Haye was going to look to lure Wlad into his trap to land a hard counter. Wlad was smarter in this fight, his gameplan was better, but Haye did what he could, he knew that if he tried to exchange punches with Wlad he would be KOd...

It wasn't horrible but it was bad.