Comments Thread For: David Haye: I Don't Want To Go Out on a Defeat

Wlad's past 4 opponents have been: Haye 30 Peter 30 Chambers 28 Chagaev 30 Haye's past 4 before Wlad were: Audley 39 Ruiz 38 Valuev 37 Barrett 37 Haye has only had 5 fights at HW. Who wad Wlad facing in his 5th fight?

Hay for the FAIL!

That's just not true sorry. "fans" might have been the wrong term. People who want to see him get battered might have been better. But even those are few and far between now.

man up haye,b/s retirement out window. get your ass to america, fight: Arreola chambers povetkin europe/uk: dimitrenko chageav fury/price get fight with vitali if poss,take what ever contract,your rich enough to do that now. vitali is slower and less defense/technique,lesser footwork,haye can catch him,outbox him,even injured,like he will be,as this is a habbit he has of niggling injuries each fight,so get used to it and deal with it!. needs to improve his balance and in fighting,needs to work on pressuring and throwing combinations,needs to give ass to to get as*!. haye can redeem himself alone by fighting a number of top ten guys,on hbo,in america,win big and win entertainingly,even if he cant get a klit again and beat them,if he takes entertaining fights to the US and wins then hele be thought of more favourably anyway. sure wlad won,but he didnt impress,he looked worse than usual,he just took every round,barely landed,his power looked poor,haye allowed it through inaction and mental prob with letting his injury affect him. i mean when your 30 pounds heavier,with all the height and reach and ability,you should be landing more and being more aggresive. haye was cautious cuz wlad was cautious,it was for wlad to win bigger,risking haye getting to him in the process to gain true adoration.

fraudley harrison still has plenty of fans over there. That's just not true sorry.

fraudley harrison still has plenty of fans over there. that guys like john ruiz.they never go away. haye can stay at home and rule the national and regional belts. i'm afraid hayes legacy is permanently tainted. Haye will probably try to fight the winner of Chisora-Fury. When he comments on the possibility he will use the word "massive" 4 times in every sentence.

On September 2nd 2010 I wrote at ESB: "You have to see the whole picture: Haye is not a coward but HIS BODY is falling apart. That's why he wants to retire in a few months. That's why he isn't fighting. That's why he broke his back (vs Wladimir). That's why he broke his hand (vs Valuev). That's why he couldn't train (vs Ruiz). That's why all 4 of his opponents have rather low KORatios. Haye is in PAIN." But even I didn't know how BAD it was. A fighter should fight. When you do f*ck all for 11 months in between every fight your body is going to have a harder and harder time dealing with the stress when you throw it back into such a demanding sport. Fighters like to say they are taking a break to rest their body but it doesn't make any sense. On one hand you have Klitschko with 60 career Heavyweight fights who gets in the ring every 3 months and manages to stay healthier than just about any other top Heavy. On the other hand you have Gayefaker with his 25 fights, of which half were 8 rounds or less, coupled with his 11 month breaks between fights and what do you get..... an injury and excuses every single time he steps in the ring? Amazing how that works innit?

On September 2nd 2010 I wrote at ESB: "You have to see the whole picture: Haye is not a coward but HIS BODY is falling apart. That's why he wants to retire in a few months. That's why he isn't fighting. That's why he broke his back (vs Wladimir). That's why he broke his hand (vs Valuev). That's why he couldn't train (vs Ruiz). That's why all 4 of his opponents have rather low KORatios. Haye is in PAIN." But even I didn't know how BAD it was.

A pity for Haye. He's nowhere near what he talks himself up to be but if he had kept his mouth shut all of these years, he might have gotten greater kudos for what he did at cruiser and for his smart but not ballsy enough performance against a magnificent heavyweight champion. But then again if it wasn't for his mouth, he may not have gotten that shot or would've had to work harder for it. He'll have to do just that going forward.

Haye also fought some guy named Bonin at heavyweight. I know you're listing only the past 4 fighters that they fought. But I was wondering how old Bonin was. name..................|ages(fights)...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................|ages.(wins)......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................|ages(KOwins)............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ Wladimir.Klitschko....|27.42,33.33,33.25,24.25,32.48,33.29,36.75,24,28.05,27.55,40.59,36.4,26.77,34.23,33.4,30.6,28.05,33.69,25.43,30.53,33.95,31.63,31.38,36.49,31.97,37.16,34.8,31.82,32.67,30.88,35.5,35.52,28.3,28.07,29.14,30.17,33.04,28.5,33.47,41.24,32.55,37.17,34.27,36.1,30.85,36.19,29.98,25.05,35.69,31.8,36.36,34.09,32.96,36.73,36.1,30.67,27.98,30.01.................|27.42,33.33,33.25,24.25,32.48,33.29,36.75,24,28.05,27.55,40.59,36.4,26.77,34.23,33.4,30.6,28.05,33.69,25.43,30.53,33.95,31.63,31.38,36.49,37.16,34.8,31.82,32.67,30.88,35.5,35.52,28.3,28.07,29.14,30.17,33.04,28.5,33.47,41.24,32.55,34.27,36.1,36.19,29.98,25.05,35.69,31.8,36.36,34.09,32.96,36.73,36.1,30.67,27.98,30.01.....|27.42,33.33,33.25,24.25,33.29,36.75,24,28.05,27.55,40.59,36.4,26.77,34.23,33.4,30.6,28.05,25.43,30.53,33.95,31.63,31.38,36.49,37.16,34.8,31.82,32.67,30.88,35.5,35.52,28.3,28.07,29.14,33.04,28.5,33.47,41.24,32.55,34.27,36.1,29.98,35.69,31.8,36.36,34.09,36.73,36.1,30.67,27.98,30.01 Lennox.Lewis..........|31.21,22.27,26.32,27.3,29.9,31.09,27.24,27.84,27.72,28.9,27.73,34.87,29.16,36.01,28.23,40.08,27.02,30.92,31.7,27.14,27.39,28.86,34.37,31.87,29.99,29.42,27.8,29.53,26.76,35.1,31.79,31.75,29.75,26.32,29.61,36.4,37.07,27.73,31.8,27.97,28.46,29.03,35.94,31.92................................................................................................|31.21,22.27,26.32,27.3,29.9,31.09,27.24,27.84,27.72,28.9,27.73,34.87,29.16,36.01,28.23,40.08,27.02,30.92,31.7,27.14,27.39,28.86,34.37,31.87,29.99,27.8,29.53,26.76,35.1,31.79,31.75,29.75,26.32,29.61,37.07,27.73,31.8,27.97,29.03,35.94,31.92...................................................................................|31.21,22.27,26.32,27.3,31.09,27.24,27.84,27.72,28.9,27.73,29.16,36.01,28.23,40.08,27.02,30.92,27.14,27.39,28.86,31.87,29.99,27.8,29.53,26.76,31.79,29.75,26.32,27.73,31.8,29.03,35.94,31.92............................................................................................. David.Haye............|32.86,26.15,34.27,28.37,39.89,37.48,31.43,27.86,29.93,39.5,40.29,29.67,34.44,33.99,29.51,34.69,30.26,29.83,37.26,33.63,35.44,27.55,37.47,36.21,38.25,39.05.....................................................................................................................................................................................................|32.86,26.15,34.27,28.37,39.89,37.48,31.43,27.86,29.93,39.5,29.67,34.44,33.99,29.51,34.69,30.26,29.83,37.26,33.63,35.44,27.55,37.47,36.21,38.25,39.05.............................................................................................................................................................................|32.86,26.15,34.27,28.37,39.89,37.48,31.43,27.86,29.93,39.5,29.67,34.44,33.99,29.51,34.69,30.26,37.26,33.63,35.44,27.55,37.47,38.25,39.05................................................................................................................................................ Muhammad.Ali..........|30.7,25.98,30.88,?,28.61,26.38,30.99,26.71,26.54,29.15,21.61,22.51,25.68,24.69,25.74,48.92,30.29,26.04,29.12,31.8,33.05,30.88,28.55,32.05,32.13,28.8,33.37,27.84,35.82,25.45,28.2,27.16,31.42,28.43,28.72,29.76,34.64,27.12,?,37.71,34.57,22.92,29.64,30.09,28.17,30.04,25.8,36.07,34.26,25.3,31.72,29.61,27.45,31.35,33.14,22.45,32.08,24.59,25.18,30.91,27.36|30.7,25.98,30.88,?,28.61,26.38,30.99,26.71,26.54,29.15,21.61,22.51,25.68,24.69,25.74,48.92,30.29,26.04,29.12,31.8,33.05,30.88,28.55,32.05,32.13,28.8,33.37,27.84,35.82,25.45,28.2,31.42,28.43,28.72,29.76,34.64,27.12,?,37.71,34.57,22.92,30.09,28.17,30.04,25.8,36.07,34.26,25.3,31.72,29.61,27.45,31.35,33.14,22.45,32.08,25.18|25.98,30.88,?,28.61,26.38,26.54,29.15,21.61,22.51,25.68,24.69,25.74,48.92,30.29,29.12,31.8,33.05,30.88,32.05,32.13,28.8,33.37,35.82,25.45,31.42,28.72,27.12,?,37.71,34.57,25.8,34.26,29.61,31.35........................................................................................ Source: www.heavyweightblog.com I didn't update the Haye-Wlad fight yet, thus Haye and Wlad don't include each other's ages.

Nipple is much more aggressive and throws many more punches per round than Wlad and even against Wlad Haye was huffing and puffing in the corner while not doing very much in the rounds. Good analsys lol. Arreola throws more punches and Haye "huffed and puffed". You should get a job on HBO with that kind of breakdown.

It's the other way around. Arreola would force Haye to throw punches and Haye would gas as a result. He has never shown any ability to fight at a consistent pace in his entire career. Anyone who thinks that Haye (the most inactive fighter in the history of boxing, proven by the punchstats) could keep a durable fighter who throws 70 punches a round off of him may as well give up on life and just stick to the crackpipe. Hell when Haye landed his "Hayemaker" he couldn't even dent Wlad, Arreola would laugh at him and walk through the punches all night long. Haye went 12 with Wlad without getting hurt and you're claiming he isn't fit enough to go distance with Arreola? You're stupid.

Arreola would be exhausted trying to keep pace with Haye for mire than 4 rounds. Easy win for Haye. It's the other way around. Arreola would force Haye to throw punches and Haye would gas as a result. He has never shown any ability to fight at a consistent pace in his entire career. Anyone who thinks that Haye (the most inactive fighter in the history of boxing, proven by the punchstats) could keep a durable fighter who throws 70 punches a round off of him may as well give up on life and just stick to the crackpipe. Hell when Haye landed his "Hayemaker" he couldn't even dent Wlad, Arreola would laugh at him and walk through the punches all night long.

Arreola isn't looking so fat anymore. Not as fat, but still doesn't quite look like a world class heavy and certainly not as good as Haye. That being said, it's pretty amazing that even the sloppy ass disgusting 270lb version of Arreola had more stamina than Haye does.

Arreola would be exhausted trying to keep pace with Haye for mire than 4 rounds. Easy win for Haye.

Well, Haye can earn a shot at Vitali if he beats a good fighter at heavyweight like Povetkin, Chambers, Solis, and Arreola. But I think he might struggle against some of those fighters styles, I don't think it was coincidence he didn't fight any of those risky fights. Arreola would kick the sh*t out of Haye more than any other heavy aside from Vitali. I don't think Haye can beat any Heavyweight who has a good chin and throws alot of punches. Arreola would probably lose the first 4 rounds but he would grind Haye down and maul his ass into submission. A guy who throws 20 punches per round would never be able to keep someone like Arreola off of him. After the fight Haye would be calling him a cheater for throwing so many punches and everyone would have a good laugh at the fat ass jelly roll guy throwing 5 times as many shots as the ripped up prima donna.

Wlads next fight will probably about as profitable as Hayes next fight. Even though Haye has proven himself to be a disgrace, he could still sell tickets to fight thin air with his mouth. No one outside of Eastern Europe gives a damn about either Klit, and no one outside of the UK gives a damn about Haye. You misunderstood me, i apologize. Haye's next bout, a possible matchup with Vitali, will be bigger than Wladimir's next bout. No matter who he faces. And its Wladimir's own fault. Had he brought closure to the Haye-Klitschko rivalry, there would be no need for Haye vs Vitali.

so according to Haye, Wlad and him both made around 50mil $ a piece? because a fifth of their fight, fighting Povetkin would make him 12-15 mil euroes, which is still approx. 20$mil or so.

Haye did make make enough noise to generate a nice payday for both he and Klitschko, but wont happen again. After watching Haye refuse to fight, along with all those european flops, is hard to see the public being fooled again by the Hayemaker. If David continues to fight at HW, he either has to fight Vitali or become a stepping stone for up and comers. Fighting Vitali is not a smart option so Haye will have to fight live opponents such as Delboy, Fury, or even David Price to stay relevant. Americans like Arreola and Thompson ,or even the cuban Solis, will never get a shot at Haye and there is more money for David to fight fellow englishman so i imagine David will stay in-house with his future opponents. I will say that i now have Haye ranked below all the up and comers i mentioned due to the fact that Chisora Fury and Price would put up a much better challenge to the Klitschko than Haye is capable of doing.

Answer this. Whose next bout is going to be bigger? Wladimir or Haye? Now answer this. Had Wladimir settled the Klitschko-Haye rivalry, would David's next bout even matter? Wlads next fight will probably about as profitable as Hayes next fight. Even though Haye has proven himself to be a disgrace, he could still sell tickets to fight thin air with his mouth. No one outside of Eastern Europe gives a damn about either Klit, and no one outside of the UK gives a damn about Haye.