This was now the 3rd fight of Wladimir against a superdefensive fighter (Ibragimov, Chambers, Haye) and Manny Steward doesn't have any clue how to instruct Wladimir.
Manny talked ridiculous nonsense like "Haye is tiring" (after round 2) and had no advice except "let your hands go" but I would have thought that already after the Ibragimov fight THEY SHOULD HAVE TRAINED MOVES/TACTICS against ultradefensive fighters.
I was very disappointed in Manny. Both in terms of preparation and during the fight.
This was now the 3rd fight of Wladimir against a superdefensive fighter (Ibragimov, Chambers, Haye) and Manny Steward doesn't have any clue how to instruct Wladimir.
Manny talked ridiculous nonsense like "Haye is tiring" (after round 2) and had no advice except "let your hands go" but I would have thought that already after the Ibragimov fight THEY SHOULD HAVE TRAINED MOVES/TACTICS against ultradefensive fighters.
I was very disappointed in Manny. Both in terms of preparation and during the fight.
Haye was gassed early... the guy was doing cartwheels around the ring, that's why his activity level dropped from round four, on.
It's not Steward's fault that his fighter wasn't willing enough to coerce Haye into actually engaging.
It reminds me of what Mayweather said to Naazim Richardson before the Mosley fight about respecting him but him not being able to fight for Mosley in the ring.
i love how some of you wanna be experts run your mouths about what manny did or did not do....especially when they show only a tiny bit of what he really says throughout the fight. the dudes a hof trainer, gimme a ****in break.
Manny was poor when Naseem hamed was losing to Barrera as well.
But Wlad had the fight in the bag, so in the 12 round he should have went for the KO if that is what he wanted. He knew Haye couldnt hurt him so what was up with Wlad?
This was now the 3rd fight of Wladimir against a superdefensive fighter (Ibragimov, Chambers, Haye) and Manny Steward doesn't have any clue how to instruct Wladimir.
Manny talked ridiculous nonsense like "Haye is tiring" (after round 2) and had no advice except "let your hands go" but I would have thought that already after the Ibragimov fight THEY SHOULD HAVE TRAINED MOVES/TACTICS against ultradefensive fighters.
I was very disappointed in Manny. Both in terms of preparation and during the fight.
Me too, I feel that same way. A fighter of Klitschko's experience with a Hall of Fame trainer should have been on top of ALL that an opponent might do. Especially since they knew that Haye was really more than a bit "gun-shy".
Steward announced several times that they had EVERY angle covered, and yet, A defensive Haye was at LEAST a 50-50 liklihood. So why the hell wasn't Klitschko prepared by Steward for it. Klitschko is that good, that he could have walked right through Haye's flail around.
The only mitigation I can think of is that Klitschko was carrying out his stated plan to punish Haye for 12 rounds and KO him in the last few seconds, which he messed up on.
Manny did an excellent job.
Manny picked out Haye's ambush game-plan immediately and was telling Wlad he was "giving the championship" away in order to light a fire under him. Telling him to stay busier than he usually does is why Haye wasn't able to set anything up.
Wlad is 35. He knows how to find his openings just fine. Steward saw the opening for the hook and told him to focus on that instead of the right, and Wlad had some success with it. Steward is perfect for Wladimir.
He won just about all but one round. Why complain?
Exactly. Steward was telling him everything he needed to do. He kept telling him to pick up the pace and to let his hands go and throw more right hands. He also told him to stop letting Haye (try to steal) the rounds in the last 10 seconds and not let him get off on him. And of course Steward is gonna tell his fighters they might have lost some rounds. He wants them to push themselves more and not get overly confident and end up losing on points because they "thought" they were winning.
It's up to Wladimir if he's gonna follow Stewards instructions or not. It's not like Manny can go in there and do it for him.
Steward is hard on who ever he trains even if you are winning the fight he is disappointed if you don't win in a spectacular fashion .
Its true but Steward, also being a commentator, knows the criticism that boxing analysts and fans have for boring fights, especially when it's been built up to be the next best thing since sliced bread. He knows it's just as important to the fans for it to be an exciting fight. Real fight fans would much rather have their guy lose in an exciting, can't forget fight more than a - "W" is all that matters, cautious and boring fight.
My only complaint about Steward is him not encouraging body work. A few hooks to the liver here and there and this fight would have been over mid-way through.
I sense that body work doesn't make Wlad comfortable, but still. He's very powerful that I'd love to see some dedicated body work
Emanuel Steward did his job in getting Wlad ready for that fight. Wlad had solid conditioning and was well prepared for Haye's assault. He coaches his fighters to win the fight by controling it fom start to finish without letting them grow complacent in the ring. What more do you want from him his fighter's always WIN!!!
This was now the 3rd fight of Wladimir against a superdefensive fighter (Ibragimov, Chambers, Haye) and Manny Steward doesn't have any clue how to instruct Wladimir.
Manny had no advice except "let your hands go"
Personally dude, I kinda agreed with Manny, Wlad had Haye backed up and vulnerable so often I really believe he would of KO'd Haye if he had of just let the punches go. Wlad seemed reluctant as usual to throw his right hand which frustrates me a little, because its a deadly weapon.
People often moan about Wlads jab straight combo like its all he has, but when its as effective as it is, why fix anything? The first time any Wlad opponent feels the double thud of that smashed into their face they end up hiding for the rest of the fight.
No, Manny predicted "Wladimir will stop David in 4 rounds."
If he said "exactly how it would" he's a liar.
haha it was just a joke. he always says that during every fight on hbo, usually about 1 minute into the fight.
I think Wlad should look for a new trainer, he is always telling Wlad he is loosing the fight, when Wlad was winning the fight comfortably. He also told Wlad after the 8th or 9th "to take more chances" because "he is not that dangerous", I am glad Wlad stuck to his gameplan, Gayevid was looking for that one-shot counter, and Wlad's job was to not give it to him, good for Wlad. Maybe if he went wild, Gayevid would have gotten lucky.
I also think there is some truth to what Gayevid said about his conversation with Steward, about him training him for Vitaly, he might have been joking, but there is always a little bit of truth behind every joke.
Steward is the best trainer in the history of boxing, BUT he also had the best boxers in the world (Lewis, Wlad, etc). Wlad was a world champ without Steward and it would be nice if he finished his career with his brother as his trainer. Vitaly is there giving him advice between every round anyway. Also, Wlad said that he trains to his schedule, not his trainer's.
Of course Wlad has gotten comfortable with Steward so I think he will stick with him but I noticed there has been a slight rift between the two since the Chambers fight, even just watching it on tv. What the hell do I know though, Wlad is a very smart man, I am sure if he felt Steward was disloyal in anyway, he would put a stop to it right away.
Can't say.. I think that Steward realizes that at 35 years old, Wlad is not going to change his style. No reason to scream at Wlad to be more aggressive if he's not going to do it anyway.
Manny did an excellent job.
Manny picked out Haye's ambush game-plan immediately and was telling Wlad he was "giving the championship" away in order to light a fire under him. Telling him to stay busier than he usually does is why Haye wasn't able to set anything up.
Wlad is 35. He knows how to find his openings just fine. Steward saw the opening for the hook and told him to focus on that instead of the right, and Wlad had some success with it. Steward is perfect for Wladimir.
He won just about all but one round. Why complain?
I still wish Manny said to Wladimir to take him out in the later rounds, Haye was defiantly tiring. Wladimir shouldn't have to be told to let his hands go anyway.
That fight went "exactly how he predicted it would go". Emmanuel Steward is like a modern day Nostradamus. Show some respect bro.
No, Manny predicted "Wladimir will stop David in 4 rounds."
If he said "exactly how it would" he's a liar.
I'm just surprised that Steward wasn't pissed off at the end. He was pretty calm. He's usually crazy mad at the end of these fights when he knows Wlad could knock out his opponent.