Am I the only one who didn't really see Wlad's jab landing early on?

All the Hayeloaders scurrying around like mice, trying to find something good to say about their tarnished hero is really like a comedy. Keep goig guys...I need a good laugh.

I actually thought that Haye came in with a good game plan for the fight. He kept slipping Wlad's jab with ease and then landed a power right hand or a left hook. I totally disagreed with Ledderman's scorecard for the first 4 rounds, cuz Wlad only landed like two jabs? The HBO crew except for Roy Jones kept getting wet off of Wlad's jab which was not really landing. I had the fight at 5 rounds to 7 for Klitchko. I also think that Haye was falling down cuz of Wlad's extra 30 pounds. I don't think that was on purpose. What Haye shoulda done was affective jabbing after the 6th round since he couldn't KO Wlad. The headmovent was good at the beginning, but as a heavy weight you can't do that for long. He shoulda jabbed for the rest of the fight to give Wlad something to respect. Even if it was a jab to the arms it would still earn Wlad's respect. JIM WATT haye's biggest booster, gave Klitschko the first SEVEN rounds, even including the point taken away. So THAT should tell you that your "scoring" is all cockeyed. No offence meant, but in time ....maybe...you'll learn something aboutboxing, especially the scoring points.

No Ceiling You have horus shades on. If Wlad was black it would be 125-108 like you had in both Alxander-Kotelnik/Matthysse. Face it, everyone comes in with a gameplan against Wlad and once they feel his power they turtle and run away for 12 rounds or until they get knocked out, what he does is dominate while maintaining one of highest KO%. I find it funny that you support bums like Alexander and other Horus fighters who have 40-50% KO and run away for 12 rounds but you hate wlad? wtf? He is 100x the Fighter/Man/Tactician than any of your fights, but yea keep thinking otherwise you dumb buffoon.

NO. I saw that too.

I actually thought that Haye came in with a good game plan for the fight. He kept slipping Wlad's jab with ease and then landed a power right hand or a left hook. I totally disagreed with Ledderman's scorecard for the first 4 rounds, cuz Wlad only landed like two jabs? The HBO crew except for Roy Jones kept getting wet off of Wlad's jab which was not really landing. I had the fight at 5 rounds to 7 for Klitchko. I also think that Haye was falling down cuz of Wlad's extra 30 pounds. I don't think that was on purpose. What Haye shoulda done was affective jabbing after the 6th round since he couldn't KO Wlad. The headmovent was good at the beginning, but as a heavy weight you can't do that for long. He shoulda jabbed for the rest of the fight to give Wlad something to respect. Even if it was a jab to the arms it would still earn Wlad's respect. I agree completely,Haye wasn't shut out & he won a few of the early rounds.He landed the bigger shots early & IMO if he attacked the body,he would have made it even closer.

I said before this fight Haye could slip the jab early, but not over the course of 12 rounds.

Haye's head movement and footwork were good most of the fight especially early on. The unfortunate thing for him is, he forgot to throw punches and as the rounds went on Wlad's jab was getting more and more effective.

It really wasn't for the first three or four rounds, which was when Haye was most competitive. Problem is he only threw like 4 or 5 punches a round, all wild ones that hit nothing.

He never made any adjustment when Wlad neutralise his main strategy for the fight, wanting to land the right.I thought he could have thrown a lot of jabs whiles boxing in circles...

haye defended relatively well but couldn't capitalize on it. i think it's at around round 7 that wlad started gaining confidence and throwing stronger more accurate jabs. he kinda saw that haye has nothing in the arsenal to hurt him.

Yes I also thought Haye was doing pretty good the first 4 rounds, even winning them. I though he started slipping in the 5th.

Haye clearly lost two of the first four rounds. Wlad's jab was landing in round 2 for sure. In round 1 Haye was pretty active, but he was missing. Wlad's jab wasn't that effective in the round, but at least he landed it sometimes. Haye landed nothing.

Yes but he didnt throw any punches, plus he reminded me if malignaggi vs hatton with all that rolling around on the floor.