Haye showed a great defense, just wasn't busy enough. I felt he could have done more. People keep saying Haye couldn't trouble Klit enough but that's because he didn't try to be more offensive. Every time he did go for Klit, Klit would hold on for dear life or turn his head away.
Really annoys me about Haye. He's got good boxing skills, speed, power, reflexes. Loved watching him in the earlier days. If he was able to mix up an offense with the defense he would have put Klit in a world of trouble.
Just really disappointed with Haye. He's better than that! and he'll lose fans after giving it all that bravado.
You're clueless.
Haye's work rate was so little because Wlad did not allow him to work.
Just like Ibragimov. Just like all the rest.
Haye didn't get to throw because he was moving around dodging punches all night. Wlad's work rate was massive. Nothing Haye could do about it.
Exactly exactly.
Wlad BUMMIFIES his opponents.
Only clueless boxing fans think that his opponents are bad. His opponents LOOK bad when in the ring with Wlad.
yeah he was able to avoid damage, his defense was pretty good and he was making Wlad miss a lot....but the problem is that when he made Wlad miss he didn't counter with anything nor did he make him pay...also way too much head hunting and not enough body shots
EXACTLY!!! that's my point! he didn't need to head hunt, I saw Haye land the jab the odd times he threw it as well. He could have set things up, set more traps. should have tried to counter more. Just didn't do enough by way of countering. That would have made Wlad hesitate and think a little more. Haye beat himself more than Wlad did there.
yeah he was able to avoid damage, his defense was pretty good and he was making Wlad miss a lot....but the problem is that when he made Wlad miss he didn't counter with anything nor did he make him pay...also way too much head hunting and not enough body shots
Did no one notice haye huffing and puffing after the fight? He was fatigued as always. He's never had a tank and tiring tonight after doing nothing proved that.
Floyd has like 1 legit KO in his last 10 fights with a LOW kO% (most of them from his first 20 fights)
Wlad has one of the highest KO % in HW history, all while making his opponents look silly.
If he was BLACK you guys would be on his nuts how he is a master tactician and nobody could land a shot on him.
Wlad makes title holders LOOK LIKE BUMS.
If haye was busier he would have been exhausted by the 6th. You can't move like that defensively and have a high workrate and not get tired easily.
When I say work rate I mean answering more when Wlad asks the question, slip and counter and move. No one is saying to throw a thousand punches in the round. Just take a few more risks. Cos again I say, he has the speed to put a few punches together. Look when Haye did throw the big looping right, that is supposed to be the slower shot yet it either found a home, or glanced off the face/glove.
Quick fire combinations rather than single shots would have worked. I mean the last few rounds Haye should have picked it up.
If haye was busier he would have been exhausted by the 6th. You can't move like that defensively and have a high workrate and not get tired. I think they had horrible gameplan of relying of ending the fight with 1 punch.
Floyd has like 1 legit KO in his last 10 fights with a LOW kO% (most of them from his first 20 fights)
Wlad has one of the highest KO % in HW history, all while making his opponents look silly.
If he was BLACK you guys would be on his nuts how he is a master tactician and nobody could land a shot on him.
Wlad makes title holders LOOK LIKE BUMS.
Made himself look silly tonight actually. Haye slipped many many of his punches, just didn't counter enough. Don't go thinking Wlad looked good in this fight. He won rounds not by landing affective punches, but by being busier than Haye in throwing them.
Nonsense! Haye's inactivity allowed Wlad to stay in his comfort zone and jab and grab away! it's what he does best! The proof is there for all to see! When Haye exploded on Wlad he didn't like it one bit. I mean Haye landed only 36 or so punches and marked up Wlad's face. Haye in the last few rounds should just have let him hands go. The speed combined with a higher work rate would have unsettled Wlad. I mean Haye got to him more than any other fighter has done since the first Sam Peter fight.
What does that tell you??? the fact that he did that much with the measly amount he threw?
thank god someone who knows boxing! haye could have won this fight and still can if he fights on! there is no other guy in the heavyweight division who can beat wladimir or vitali! I hope haye recovers and bounces back very well!
i think the defeat will do more good than bad for him! wladimir didnt dominate him like he wanted to! nothing pizza face ... actually wlad did get more of a pizza face but anyway congrats to wlad hes a great fighter who wont be beaten period
The only problem I have with you Klit nuthuggers is that you make all the excuses for Wlad being boring, but are quick to say Mayweather is boring....
Floyd has like 1 legit KO in his last 10 fights with a LOW kO% (most of them from his first 20 fights)
Wlad has one of the highest KO % in HW history, all while making his opponents look silly.
If he was BLACK you guys would be on his nuts how he is a master tactician and nobody could land a shot on him.
Wlad makes title holders LOOK LIKE BUMS.
The only problem I have with you Klit nuthuggers is that you make all the excuses for Wlad being boring, but are quick to say Mayweather is boring....
who says wlad aint boring? who was more boring tonite? haye or wlad?
look at the stats, who threw more punches and who landed more?
both goes to the dr boring steel hammer
This is the first time I'm posting here you dimwit. So I have a new account does that automatically mean I used to be someone else?
Sorry but you don't know me. If that's how you welcome new members, then that says a lot about you.
u cant have high punch output when u spend all yr time running away.
its easy to say "throw 4-5 combination, get in close", but when u got a giant 6"6 cyborg bearing down at u with a long steel hammer , things changes very quickly.
Haye showed a great defense, just wasn't busy enough. I felt he could have done more. People keep saying Haye couldn't trouble Klit enough but that's because he didn't try to be more offensive. Every time he did go for Klit, Klit would hold on for dear life or turn his head away.
Really annoys me about Haye. He's got good boxing skills, speed, power, reflexes. Loved watching him in the earlier days. If he was able to mix up an offense with the defense he would have put Klit in a world of trouble.
Just really disappointed with Haye. He's better than that! and he'll lose fans after giving it all that bravado.
Yeah, he was great defensively because he didn't throw punches in the fight and decided that it was better to run. If he would've tried to be more offensive, most likely Wlad would've catched him with a powerful right hand.
Nonsense! Haye's inactivity allowed Wlad to stay in his comfort zone and jab and grab away! it's what he does best! The proof is there for all to see! When Haye exploded on Wlad he didn't like it one bit. I mean Haye landed only 36 or so punches and marked up Wlad's face. Haye in the last few rounds should just have let him hands go. The speed combined with a higher work rate would have unsettled Wlad. I mean Haye got to him more than any other fighter has done since the first Sam Peter fight.
What does that tell you??? the fact that he did that much with the measly amount he threw?
Haye showed a great defense, just wasn't busy enough. I felt he could have done more. People keep saying Haye couldn't trouble Klit enough but that's because he didn't try to be more offensive. Every time he did go for Klit, Klit would hold on for dear life or turn his head away.
Really annoys me about Haye. He's got good boxing skills, speed, power, reflexes. Loved watching him in the earlier days. If he was able to mix up an offense with the defense he would have put Klit in a world of trouble.
Just really disappointed with Haye. He's better than that! and he'll lose fans after giving it all that bravado.
And what was YOUR former username?
My money's on lfc19titles! :D
You're clueless.
Haye's work rate was so little because Wlad did not allow him to work.
Just like Ibragimov. Just like all the rest.
Haye didn't get to throw because he was moving around dodging punches all night. Wlad's work rate was massive. Nothing Haye could do about it.
Why is it after every single Wlad fight we hear the same stuff?
Oh Is a bum
Oh didnt do anything
Oh ran for 12 rounds
Oh Wlad is boring
Oh Wlad is overrated
Oh Wlad is bla bla bla
You guys still havent figured it out yet? HE MAKES EVERYONE ELSE LOOK BAD.
He is a master of the game, if you take the guys who Wlad beat and make them fight you will see an entertaining fight with lots of people getting hit in the face and maybe a KO.
What Wlad does it just control and dominate a fighter so badly that the opponent doesnt know what to do. So Haye did what they all did, run for 12 rounds and try to figure Wlad out.
Despite how "boring" he is Wlad still has The most "true" heavyweight fights and is dominant no matter who they put in with him.
Its easy to say yea im going to go and KO him but its another thing to do it once he starts jabbing your face off your strategy falls apart pretty quick.
How many of these wins will it take before people finally realize Wlad is a master tactitian and complete dominates anyone put infront of him.
is it pretty at time? no
But it works and its not like he has a 40% KO rate.
I dont get some of these posters, you guys nuthug Pacq and Floyd while they have way less defences,fights,KO %.
and its not the "HW Division". Most of ALI's fights were snooze fests. So quit acting like this dude is getting lucky, he dominating and winning like we havent seen before from a TRUE HW
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