Should Pac ask Floyd for xylocaine test in this fight?

u do know pac came in overwieght for a fight before huh? You know that doesn't matter the only thing that matters is the PBF came in overweight. Manny actually did it twice but that is neither here nor there!:wtf1:

pac will give floyd his test, in return floyd will do xylocaine test, that fair isn't it?

should pac ask for xylocaine testing?.....no need...pac aint a b1tch like floyd, he dont need to be asking sh1t like that....

You damn right Manny should ask for it if that is how he feels! WTF kind of question is this?

Actually it is relevant because in addition to USADA/WADA testing the fighters still undergo the ****ty testing the NSAC does........... It's really sad if people don't understand that basic concept.

Fruck you both and liar! Ex-NSAC Chairman: Floyd not tested for Xylocaine Before & After the Fight Goodman Questions Mayweather-Mosley Drug Testing Gap By Lem Satterfield A former Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board Chairman and Chief Ringside Physician who has worked more than 400 fights, Margaret Goodman generally applauds the United States Anti-Doping Agency's inagural overseeing of a random blood and urine system for detecting steroids and other illegal drugs in boxers. But one of the questions Goodman has is why USADA did not test either Floyd Mayweather's or Shane Mosley's blood closer than within 18 days of their May 1 fight. USADA test results from Mayweather-Mosley were released and revealed that Mayweather had both blood and urine taken on March 22, April 1, April 13 and then on the night directly after the fight. Mayweather reportedly provided urine only on April 3, April 6, April 21 and April 24. Meanwhile, Mosley, who claims that he unknowingly used the steroids "the cream" and 'the clear" obtained from BALCO Founder, Victor Conte, provided both blood and urine on March 23, March 31, April 12 and directly after the bout on fight night. Mosley provided urine on April 3, April 6, April 21 and April 24. Goodman said that the long window between the final day of blood testing and the fight impuned the system and the good intentions of Mayweather, who has vowed to champion the inclusion of random testing. "I, too, was concerned about the lack of blood testing of Mosley and Mayweather right up until their fight. It unnecessarily promoted conspiracy theories as to why a fighter who had previously admitted EPO use was not thoroughly examined," said Goodman to ***********.com, adding that "the testing needs to be tailored to boxing and M M A." "It was absurd that the fighters were not checked for numbing agents such as lidocaine or xylocaine before and after the fight, when one fighter has admitted using these agents before for sore hands. No fighter should fight nor face an opponent with numb hands," said Goodman. "Both fighters wanted to demonstrate that they fought free of PEDs that night," said Goodman. "That was not adequately accomplished, which is a shame for the participants, whom I do believe fought clean." In another move, WBA super middlweight (168 pounds) champion, Andre Ward and challenger Allan Green are mutually pushing for the inclusion of random blood and urine testing for their June 19 title bout at The Oracle Arena in Ward's hometown of Oakland, Calif. "More and more fighters are stepping forward and asking for extensive PED testing," said Goodman. "They want to fight a clean opponent. Yet, the powers that be continue to ignore their requests." Lem Satterfield is the boxing editor for AOL FanHouse and the news editor... The NSAC has their own testing in place for that, numbing agents that is.

It's not tested for or banned by USADA/WADA, so the wall of text you posted is irrelevant. Protect our fighters, ban lidocaine/xylocaine, gold standard my ass, take the (lidocaine) test Floyd, so on and so forth :purity: Actually it is relevant because in addition to USADA/WADA testing the fighters still undergo the ****ty testing the NSAC does...........

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada It's not tested for or banned by USADA/WADA, so the wall of text you posted is irrelevant. Protect our fighters, ban lidocaine/xylocaine, gold standard my ass, take the (lidocaine) test Floyd, so on and so forth :purity:

Floyd didn't take a single blood or Urine test in over a year. Pacquiao took a Test not even 2 months ago. How do we know Floyd wasn't roiding up in that year where he was inactive? He says he want to clean up the sport and force people to take the test but he himself wont even take the test.

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+HOYA+CUT+BY+HIS+CUT-MAN.%28Sports%29-a0122340014 Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sports/sports-people-boxing-honeyghan-faces-fine.html?pagewanted=1 Tested as far back as 1989 Even writers your Pac fans like to qoute conceded nothing is on the Xylocaine topic. The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED? - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-national/the-official-answers-on-xylocaine-is-it-illegal-the-usa-is-it-banned-boxing-is-it-a-ped#ixzz1Q1knQl99 Michael Marley - True that: Floyd Mayweather is cleaner than Board Of Health More? As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time. “Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.” Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain therapeutic” medications. (Nevada commission director Keith Kizer) http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m3d11-Nevada-boxing-boss-Floyd-Mayweathers-hands-are-clean Testing is Worse is Dallas, making it easier To take if wanted. The Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation won't be drug testing the boxers before and after their bout, a spokesman told the Daily News Most state commissions have boxers submit to only urine tests before and after a fight. The Texas agency doesn't even do that. Its executive director, William Kuntz, can order a drug screen for boxers if there is "good cause." But Susan Stanford, a public information officer for the department, doesn't envision that happening for this fight, even though Pacquiao has come under increased scrutiny of late over the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. "At the present time, no drug testing will be required of the boxers," she told The News Thursday. "We don't see rumors as good cause. There is a medical examination before the fight, but that doesn't include drug testing." Arum said he chose to stage the fight in Texas for the amenities, not the lack of drug testing. "I always assumed (that Texas) did drug testing, but I know for sure that the WBO insists on that," Arum said in a phone interview. "The reason the fight is in Texas is because it's in Cowboys Stadium, not because of the (lack of) drug testing." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_no_test_issues_for_manny_fight.html#ixzz0gdhpb9LS Testing for drugs after the fight is not Mandatory in Texas, Just if they choose to. (Making testing guide lines worse) Ownage of epic proportions. /Thread

pac doesnt give a shiit what floyd takes. this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pac only trains and fights and doesn't concern himself with stupid testing sh.t. only cowards demand that sh.t. :bigeyes:

**** thread, and its probably a wind up, but the ts sounds almost as dumb, if not as dumb as the butthurt flomo's that have posted in here.

Olympic style testing is done for athletes who compete in the olympics. If floyd fights pac in the 2012 olympics then they both will have their blood tested olympic style. Floyd test is far the real Olympic test. He also wasn't tested for xylocaine abuse in Mosley fight according to ex-NSAC chairman.

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+HOYA+CUT+BY+HIS+CUT-MAN.%28Sports%29-a0122340014 Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sports/sports-people-boxing-honeyghan-faces-fine.html?pagewanted=1 Tested as far back as 1989 Even writers your Pac fans like to qoute conceded nothing is on the Xylocaine topic. The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED? - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-national/the-official-answers-on-xylocaine-is-it-illegal-the-usa-is-it-banned-boxing-is-it-a-ped#ixzz1Q1knQl99 Michael Marley - True that: Floyd Mayweather is cleaner than Board Of Health More? As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time. “Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.” Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain therapeutic” medications. (Nevada commission director Keith Kizer) http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m3d11-Nevada-boxing-boss-Floyd-Mayweathers-hands-are-clean Testing is Worse is Dallas, making it easier To take if wanted. The Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation won't be drug testing the boxers before and after their bout, a spokesman told the Daily News Most state commissions have boxers submit to only urine tests before and after a fight. The Texas agency doesn't even do that. Its executive director, William Kuntz, can order a drug screen for boxers if there is "good cause." But Susan Stanford, a public information officer for the department, doesn't envision that happening for this fight, even though Pacquiao has come under increased scrutiny of late over the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. "At the present time, no drug testing will be required of the boxers," she told The News Thursday. "We don't see rumors as good cause. There is a medical examination before the fight, but that doesn't include drug testing." Arum said he chose to stage the fight in Texas for the amenities, not the lack of drug testing. "I always assumed (that Texas) did drug testing, but I know for sure that the WBO insists on that," Arum said in a phone interview. "The reason the fight is in Texas is because it's in Cowboys Stadium, not because of the (lack of) drug testing." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_no_test_issues_for_manny_fight.html#ixzz0gdhpb9LS Testing for drugs after the fight is not Mandatory in Texas, Just if they choose to. (Making testing guide lines worse) ^^^^ what he said. Also if a weight penalty is there to deter cheating, isn't the same true of random blood and urine testing. Every authority on the topic had rubbished NSAC testing standards as inadequate and ineffectual.....it's not even up for debate, yet when Floyd wants to deter cheating it's not acceptable???

Yes, that was to deter the cheating on the scales like he did against Marquez. We're talking about preventing a fighter from using numbing agents that allow him to hit much harder than usual, which is dangerous for both the fighter and his opponent. My guess is that's the reason Floyd takes such long stretches of time off- he loads up on the injections during training camp and now during fights because WADA/USADA doesn't test for it. Then once it wears off, he realizes how much damage he's done to his hands, and needs time to heal. Just my theory. But either way, can't have a fighter going into the ring with numbed hands, lidocaine in Boxing is a PED, no doubt about it. We have to protect our fighters, no tainted Ws on the record because guys are loading up with lidocaine or other substances and performing past their pain thresholds. Random testing for numbing agents should be a part of this fight and all others. Manny hasn't made contracted weight twice in his career (if i'm not mistaken) so why doesn't Floyd have a penalty in place. Is it because it's ridiculous to think Manny will come in greater than 147, because he missed the contracted weight at 120 or 130??, absolutely and RIGHTLY so it is ridiculous!!!! The same way it's ridiculous to say Floyd set a precedent by weighing 146 in a fight contracted for 144. If he had failed to make contracted weight at WW, then fair enough. EITHER WAY IT'S MOOT BECAUSE FLOYD SAID YES!! Pain killers don't make you hit harder. They make you be able to hit at your hardest without being hindered by pain if you hurt you hand.....if you break your hand it will still hurt. Topical Lidocaine isn't magic, it's a local anaesthetic. Lidocaine is legal in Nevada and not a prohibited substance under WADA code. You should look up some of the uses of topical Lidocaine and Lidocaine in other forms.....i LOL at you trying to turn this debate on it's head. If Manny is concerned about it, perhaps they should add it to the USADA's list for the purpose of this fight, but he better watch it if he get's a bad headache or needs some painkillers for his leg or back, just in case they contain Lidocaine. Then again i believe the NSAC tests for it post-fight, so i'm assuming it's not used during any fight, as apparently it's only legal one week before fights. So despite additional testing by USADA, Floyd and Manny would still be subject to the meek testing of the NSAC. I thought Pactards loved the NSAC testing standards.....guess that is only when it fits your agenda???

Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+HOYA+CUT+BY+HIS+CUT-MAN.%28Sports%29-a0122340014 Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4. http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sports/sports-people-boxing-honeyghan-faces-fine.html?pagewanted=1 Tested as far back as 1989 Even writers your Pac fans like to qoute conceded nothing is on the Xylocaine topic. The official answers on Xylocaine: Is it illegal in the USA? Is it banned in Boxing? Is it a PED? - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports-in-national/the-official-answers-on-xylocaine-is-it-illegal-the-usa-is-it-banned-boxing-is-it-a-ped#ixzz1Q1knQl99 Michael Marley - True that: Floyd Mayweather is cleaner than Board Of Health More? As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time. “Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.” Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain therapeutic” medications. (Nevada commission director Keith Kizer) http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m3d11-Nevada-boxing-boss-Floyd-Mayweathers-hands-are-clean Testing is Worse is Dallas, making it easier To take if wanted. The Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation won't be drug testing the boxers before and after their bout, a spokesman told the Daily News Most state commissions have boxers submit to only urine tests before and after a fight. The Texas agency doesn't even do that. Its executive director, William Kuntz, can order a drug screen for boxers if there is "good cause." But Susan Stanford, a public information officer for the department, doesn't envision that happening for this fight, even though Pacquiao has come under increased scrutiny of late over the issue of performance-enhancing drugs. "At the present time, no drug testing will be required of the boxers," she told The News Thursday. "We don't see rumors as good cause. There is a medical examination before the fight, but that doesn't include drug testing." Arum said he chose to stage the fight in Texas for the amenities, not the lack of drug testing. "I always assumed (that Texas) did drug testing, but I know for sure that the WBO insists on that," Arum said in a phone interview. "The reason the fight is in Texas is because it's in Cowboys Stadium, not because of the (lack of) drug testing." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_no_test_issues_for_manny_fight.html#ixzz0gdhpb9LS Testing for drugs after the fight is not Mandatory in Texas, Just if they choose to. (Making testing guide lines worse)

floyd is willing to take any test just like Ortiz martinez ward donaire... and your god pacman...................mmmmmmm....well...........afraid of needles... http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathers-adviser-floyd-not-use-xylocaine--26889

another thread fail

Yes, that was to deter the cheating on the scales like he did against Marquez. We're talking about preventing a fighter from using numbing agents that allow him to hit much harder than usual, which is dangerous for both the fighter and his opponent. My guess is that's the reason Floyd takes such long stretches of time off- he loads up on the injections during training camp and now during fights because WADA/USADA doesn't test for it. Then once it wears off, he realizes how much damage he's done to his hands, and needs time to heal. Just my theory. But either way, can't have a fighter going into the ring with numbed hands, lidocaine in Boxing is a PED, no doubt about it. We have to protect our fighters, no tainted Ws on the record because guys are loading up with lidocaine or other substances and performing past their pain thresholds. Random testing for numbing agents should be a part of this fight and all others. I thought Floyd is championing the drug test in boxing. He must show to the world that he is not using a xylocaine during his fight by including this xylocaine test in his fight with Ortiz. Floyd take the xylocaine test!

He already has the 10m per pound penalty. Yes, that was to deter the cheating on the scales like he did against Marquez. We're talking about preventing a fighter from using numbing agents that allow him to hit much harder than usual, which is dangerous for both the fighter and his opponent. My guess is that's the reason Floyd takes such long stretches of time off- he loads up on the injections during training camp and now during fights because WADA/USADA doesn't test for it. Then once it wears off, he realizes how much damage he's done to his hands, and needs time to heal. Just my theory. But either way, can't have a fighter going into the ring with numbed hands, lidocaine in Boxing is a PED, no doubt about it. We have to protect our fighters, no tainted Ws on the record because guys are loading up with lidocaine or other substances and performing past their pain thresholds. Random testing for numbing agents should be a part of this fight and all others.