According to Dan Rafael on Twitter:
"A fight promoters Gary Shaw & Golden Boy discussed for @therealbhop-Dawson undercard is Lucas Matthysse vs Kendall Holt. Bombs away. #boxing"
This is actually a great fight. Good for both.
I was already gonna buy the PPV because of Dawson and Hopkins. But another favorite of mine, Kendoll Holt in it? vs Lucas Mataysay? WOW. If this comes through, it's gonna be a happy night of boxing for me that Saturday.
Let's not forget Pascal may be in this undercard as well vs Cloud or Erdei.
he got hit A lot by Antillon in the second part of that fight, plus his firel fight vs fidel was close for no reason...
I"ve thought humberto was sliding a bit since he fought the frenchman under ricky-pac. he hasn't stopped anyone since 130 so you have his lack of power problem at 135 translating into a bigger problem with an iron chinned dude like bradley. he has stayed busy, which he has to do, but I can't get over his fights with plodders like chavez and diaz where I didn;t think he looked all that fast
I think Soto has always fought just a little over the level of his opponents.I wouldnt pick him over Bradley but think he is game against the lightweights and a few of the jwws. I doubt anyone is blowing him out.
You're right. I wasn't aware that it was so low. Then he must be in better shape now. That's good to hear.
holt is ready to go, I'll be strongly behind holy for this fight and I really hope it goes down...
I thought the Diaz fight on ESPN was at 140? Maybe I;m wrong, but if he's having problems fighting at 14-0, then he needs to be fighting solid Ww.
You're right. I wasn't aware that it was so low. Then he must be in better shape now. That's good to hear.
I didnt see Sotos fight this last weekend but he was sharp against Antillon(watched live in a box suite at The Ponda Center with Antillon fans)and in the rematch against the S. American guy that gave him trouble last fall.
What have you seen in his last 4 fights that make you think hes slipping? I didnt think he looked great in the 1st fight against the S. American but besides that, was fine up untill this weekend, which I havent seen. If anything I think fighting 5 times within a year will be helpfull even though he has had only had 1 high profile bout among them. It would've worked wonders for a guy like Bradley or PWill/
he got hit A lot by Antillon in the second part of that fight, plus his firel fight vs fidel was close for no reason...
I"ve thought humberto was sliding a bit since he fought the frenchman under ricky-pac. he hasn't stopped anyone since 130 so you have his lack of power problem at 135 translating into a bigger problem with an iron chinned dude like bradley. he has stayed busy, which he has to do, but I can't get over his fights with plodders like chavez and diaz where I didn;t think he looked all that fast
Matthysse needs to step up or shut up. This is a fight where either he proves that he's the real deal, or another hype job like his brother.
For Holt, this is a fight that could make him a factor @ 140 again.
lucas whoops holt:bottle:
Matthysse needs to step up or shut up. This is a fight where either he proves that he's the real deal, or another hype job like his brother.
For Holt, this is a fight that could make him a factor @ 140 again.
It will probably be a welterweight fight at a catch weight if it happens. You saw what happened last time Holt tried to make 140. If its at 140 and he struggles to make weight as much as he did against Mabuza, it'll be over by the 3rd round.
Yea, i agree with the soto thing, but matthysse would have been good enough in my eyes. Bradley needs to gdt back in the ring as soon as he can.
Personally, im not a fan of bradley-soto but ill watch it. I think soto's slowijg down in a big way and cant fuk with bradley at all.
I didnt see Sotos fight this last weekend but he was sharp against Antillon(watched live in a box suite at The Ponda Center with Antillon fans)and in the rematch against the S. American guy that gave him trouble last fall.
What have you seen in his last 4 fights that make you think hes slipping? I didnt think he looked great in the 1st fight against the S. American but besides that, was fine up untill this weekend, which I havent seen. If anything I think fighting 5 times within a year will be helpfull even though he has had only had 1 high profile bout among them. It would've worked wonders for a guy like Bradley or PWill/
Imo they need to stack the undercard if its gonna be ppv. If they are shooting for 450,000-500,000 US buys, which I believe is in the neighborhood of the Hopkins/Taylor fights.
Hopkins vs Bad Chad
Pascal vs Glencoffe or Cleverly (Steve Kim is saying Erdei or Shumenov)besides Erdei/Andrade I dont think Ive seen much of either. Obviously Im pulling for Pascal/Cloud but Im just throwing out names.
Holt vs Mattysse
Lemieux vs Karmazin/McEwan (Might be a bit much for a comeback but would be entertaining)or Ouma
Thats a card every fan should get behind
That probably would have happened if Lucas beat Devon convincingly. Bradley did better against him than he did. I get the feeling he's going to fight Humberto Soto next.
Yea, i agree with the soto thing, but matthysse would have been good enough in my eyes. Bradley needs to gdt back in the ring as soon as he can.
Personally, im not a fan of bradley-soto but ill watch it. I think soto's slowijg down in a big way and cant fuk with bradley at all.
Damn, didn't know this was gonna be a ppv. Thought this one was suppose to be a regular HBO card just like Hopkins-Pascal. They are messing up if they do put this on ppv. I'm a pretty hardcore boxing fan, but even I don't pay for a ppv unless it's headlined by a Mayweather or Pacquiao these days. Money is too damn tight.
^^^^=retarded. Why would you limit yourself LIKE THAt? Probably cuz you arent a hardcore boxing fan. Since when are floyd and manny more entertaining than other fighters? I didnt buy the last pac figt or the floyd-jmm fight. But i would buy dawson-bhop (a better chess match than floyds been in since maybe augustus that includes a greater fighter than floyd) holt-matthysse (a more dangerous fight for than anything manny's been in since cotto at least that's guaranteed action) and cloud pascal (better than any undercard fight on any floyd or pac fight).
Why not a tripleheader?
Matthyse vs Holt
Cloud vs Pascal
Dawson vs Hopkins
that'd be a pretty dope ppv. good to hear hbo is thinking about broadcasting another matthysse fight.
its gonna be a ppv hbo barely has enough money to get by for the rest of the year
Damn, didn't know this was gonna be a ppv. Thought this one was suppose to be a regular HBO card just like Hopkins-Pascal. They are messing up if they do put this on ppv. I'm a pretty hardcore boxing fan, but even I don't pay for a ppv unless it's headlined by a Mayweather or Pacquiao these days. Money is too damn tight.
do it
want Matthysse to get another shot!
he can beat Zab or Alexander if he gets those rematches
this would be an action fight
pick Lucas if they do it
Why not a tripleheader?
Matthyse vs Holt
Cloud vs Pascal
Dawson vs Hopkins
That would be an amazing card. I'm sure HBO would support it, because it would hype up a possible unification between Cloud and the winner of the main event.