Is a Klitschko victory in the Haye fight better for boxing in the long run?

I don't know what gives you the idea that Klitschko could be mentally broken by a loss to Haye. What he would do would be to study what he did wrongly and then regroup. Exactly the way he did when he had the 2 unexpected and serious losses to Sanders and Brewster. As he reminded us recently, and as I'd seen years years ago, he was urged to retire after the Brewster fight by none other than his own brother, and he stubbornly refused. THAT doesn't see the behaviour of a mentally weak person. Not to ME anyway. David Haye is going to be mentally broken by what happens to him on July 2nd. Haye's talk about retirement, that is just a sorry ploy for attention, is going be funny in retrospect when Klitschko puts him on a permanent vacation. People will say, "Remember that David Haye guy who kept talking about how he was gonna retire after he whooped Klitschkos ass and then got knocked out so bad he had to retire anyway?" I suspect he won't even stick around for more than 5 rounds before he finds a soft spot on the canvas and takes a 10 count feigning and effort to make it up by 10 then saying the referee screwed him and counted too fast or some other nonsense. It still remains to be seen whether or not Haye will even show up on Saturday night.

Sorry but a Haye win would be better for the sport. Haye-Vitali would be made and be an EVEN BIGGER fight. There is no rematch clause so Haye doesn't have to fight Wlad again. Haye i seriously doubt will retire after beating Wlad. A Vitali fight would make him even more money. Plus he's got nothing to lose since he already proved himself with the weaker brother. Plus he'll have the fight in England. If Vitali loses, I see him retiring. Wlad might be mentally broken and possibly retire himself. I don't know what gives you the idea that Klitschko could be mentally broken by a loss to Haye. What he would do would be to study what he did wrongly and then regroup. Exactly the way he did when he had the 2 unexpected and serious losses to Sanders and Brewster. As he reminded us recently, and as I'd seen years years ago, he was urged to retire after the Brewster fight by none other than his own brother, and he stubbornly refused. THAT doesn't see the behaviour of a mentally weak person. Not to ME anyway.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Haye's talk isn't even remotely clever or witty. He's like a comic at amateur night who counts on his 5 best buddies to show up and laugh at his feeble attempts at humor. Thank you for the compliment. I normally don't go on like this but in Haye's case I can make an exception. He behaves as if he's a paranoid schitzophreniac, and according to him, he's doing it deliberately, and glorifies himself for it. To me, that's the lowest form of sentient being I can think of, and I am completely with Klitschko on his statements regarding this lowlife. No champion I've ever seen has behaved like this. The fact that it appeals to so many on this site shows his bad influence. This was once the very best site on boxing on the internet, bar none. I only stay out of loyalty, but even then sometimes get so fed up with the obscenities and coarseness, that I quit for a few weeks to recover my sense of self respect.

A really convincing KO win would legitimize Wlad as the best HW of his era. Personally, I can't stand his style and there are always niggling doubts that he has built an impressive record by fighting less than impressive opposition - but - a win over Haye would convince me that Wlad really is the best out there. I'm not talking a jab, jab hold points victory/robbery in Germany - I mean an impressive KTFO, or at the very least a toe to toe war like Vitali and Lennox. That's what we need to see. This is biggest fight of either boxer's career, so it has to be an impressive HW-style win - which means a huge, brutal KO.

Sorry but you're a mindless cunt. :peeright: TheSlickster "peeleft: Apology accepted and yes i am a mindless cunt :headbang: WAR GAYMAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry but a Haye win would be better for the sport. Haye-Vitali would be made and be an EVEN BIGGER fight. There is no rematch clause so Haye doesn't have to fight Wlad again. Haye i seriously doubt will retire after beating Wlad. A Vitali fight would make him even more money. Plus he's got nothing to lose since he already proved himself with the weaker brother. Plus he'll have the fight in England. If Vitali loses, I see him retiring. Wlad might be mentally broken and possibly retire himself.

Haye has some ignorant corn-rows and an underbite filled with moulinyan fart-breath. Klitschko will probably avoid doing any holding in this fight so that he doesn't get too close to Haye's hair which must smell like a pan of bacon drippings that was left out in the hot sun for 2 weeks.

haye retiring is the only thing that bothers me about him, so i'm kind of not sure who i really want to root for. big win for either guy, obviously a haye win would upset the brother's reign, but idk, if he retires, it's really a waste of a victory, they'll just regain the titles. if he wins though, he needs to face vitali

If Hayw wins, it will be bad for not only boxing but for the people in general. There was a time, when the Heavyweight Champion of the World was a highly respected person, admired by all. He wasn't only a boxer, he was, by his conduct outside the ring, especially an example for children to look up to. I just can't imagine a foul mouthed, insolent, big headed braggart like Haye even coming anywhere near this image. Whereas the klitschkos, whom, if he won, he would be replacing are, because of their World wide activities on behalf of the poor, and disadvantaged, and especially children everywhere, are exactly the kind of representatives, who can show that boxing is, as it was meant to be, a sport, and not a refuge for jailbirds and illiterate, low mentality thugs. This is MY opinion anyway. Couldn't have said it better myself. Haye's talk isn't even remotely clever or witty. He's like a comic at amateur night who counts on his 5 best buddies to show up and laugh at his feeble attempts at humor.

If Hayw wins, it will be bad for not only boxing but for the people in general. There was a time, when the Heavyweight Champion of the World was a highly respected person, admired by all. He wasn't only a boxer, he was, by his conduct outside the ring, especially an example for children to look up to. I just can't imagine a foul mouthed, insolent, big headed braggart like Haye even coming anywhere near this image. Whereas the klitschkos, whom, if he won, he would be replacing are, because of their World wide activities on behalf of the poor, and disadvantaged, and especially children everywhere, are exactly the kind of representatives, who can show that boxing is, as it was meant to be, a sport, and not a refuge for jailbirds and illiterate, low mentality thugs. This is MY opinion anyway.

Haye wins = mega-fight with Vitali, it will go ahead Wlad wins = status quo continues Long term = even if Haye beats both, the Klitschkos will continue to dominate as Haye will retire this has pretty much answered everything in one lol. respect

Haye wins = mega-fight with Vitali, it will go ahead Wlad wins = status quo continues Long term = even if Haye beats both, the Klitschkos will continue to dominate as Haye will retire