Official:Devon Alexander vs Lucas Matthysse + Undercards RbR / Discussion

They can't keep doing this, it's completely ruining the credibility of the sport. i haven't watched this fight yet, but if it is indeed (another) a poor decision you are absolutely right. As much as i harp on the fact that a lax PED testing regime is bad for the credibility of the sport, it's probably not as bad as inept or biased judging.

only if you are an incompetent/corrupt judge. if the fight was on the table going into the 10th then mattyhse should have won since he easily won that round. That is a fine view to have but it is not exactly that clear cut as round 10 wasn't decisive at all, it was a good close fight feel however you want about it ~

Fun Fact, Judge Denny Nelson has only judged 2 fights out of 1000's in Missouri, both Kotelnik and Tonights fight with Devon Alexander. all his other fights have been in MN and SD with some international judging (very few) http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=401108&cat=judge&pageID=1

But it did come down to that, if he didn't want it to come down to that it was within his power to do so~ he certainly tried and failed at that. I am happy with the fight, I want to see both guys again. Alexander certainly has his flaws and he better hope his toughness holds out. If you think Matthysse won fine that is fair you can certainly make that case but that doesn't change what I have said. only if you are an incompetent/corrupt judge. if the fight was on the table going into the 10th then mattyhse should have won since he easily won that round.

it shouldn't have come down to that but he clearly won the round anyway just in case you gave alexander every other somewhat close round just because you love him. But it did come down to that, if he didn't want it to come down to that it was within his power to do so~ he certainly tried and failed at that. I am happy with the fight, I want to see both guys again. Alexander certainly has his flaws and he better hope his toughness holds out. If you think Matthysse won fine that is fair you can certainly make that case but that doesn't change what I have said.

He did not clearly win the 10th round, sure he could have won it but it was not a sure fire yea he won that round. If it came down to that I don't know how you could be that mad about the fight. it shouldn't have come down to that but he clearly won the round anyway just in case you gave alexander every other somewhat close round just because you love him.

The 'point' was piss-poor, barely defensible. Your posts have a nice, calm surface neutrality about them, which disguises whatever bias you have here, but biased you certainly are - otherwise, you wouldn't be striving to spin a defense of such an obvious piece of cooking. Look at the card Colon (so aptly named) had for Devon, man. Say what you want. I'm done with the thread. Take it however you want, that is a different way to look at this particular fight, you having an issue with a different view of the fight really says it all anyways~

he clearly won the 10th round. did he win it as big as the 7th or 8th no but there is no question he won it. you would have to be a madman to have alexander winning that round. alexander is the new sven ottke but with less power. He did not clearly win the 10th round, sure he could have won it but it was not a sure fire yea he won that round. If it came down to that I don't know how you could be that mad about the fight.

Mattyhsse did not dominated the 10th lol, 6,7,8 he certainly did though, could have scored at least one 10-8 but that along with the 4th which he did not dominate either and could have been 10-9 instead of 10-8. He dominated 3 rounds exactly in the fight and got a knockdown in another, the fight is still can be lost, thus not impossible. he clearly won the 10th round. did he win it as big as the 7th or 8th no but there is no question he won it. you would have to be a madman to have alexander winning that round. alexander is the new sven ottke but with less power.

Well thats sad, you dont even know me and can make a bias conclusion, as Ive already said in another post I thought Matthysse won, so you look kinda dumb right about now. I remember u saying Kotelnik "lost" same reason Lucas "lost" Cant believe you support a scam artist, good luck tho, he will bring you lots of exciting fights of being a bum but aslong as he fights in STL he will never lose. This is why boxing makes me mad, it wasnt even a close fight and dude no way shape or form win anywhere close to 6 rounds. That judge needs to be taken out the back and shot.

Remember youre sitting in the comfort of your home watching a telecast thats showing various angles, while the judges sit in a chair and only see one angle all different from one another. remember judges are paid by the promoter. who was the promoter? don king oh that's weird.

Now you shift the goalposts. You're an intelligent guy and you keep a cool head when you're talking these things out, but you're actually beyond reason in certain discussions, which is sad. NVM, have it your way. Whatever the point still stands, Matthysse dominated 3 rounds and got a knockdown, the fight could still get scored against him. Please use a more applicable term~

Remember youre sitting in the comfort of your home watching a telecast thats showing various angles, while the judges sit in a chair and only see one angle all different from one another. Oh you mean the judge who had it 116-112 Alexander-Kotelnik had same crazy score tonight? Weird Don King would have a judge who works out of MN fly in for this special occasion! You are just a Horus homer. Black fighter fan only, what a shame. Enjoy your boring ass fighters who rely on gift wins when they got OWNED. Dude did no DMG, none at ALL, got out landed, out hustled, out hearted, what a bum, hope he gets brutally KTFO and sent packing

how the hell did alexander win the 10th? you must get paid to come on here and defend certain fighters because that's just retarded. when i said impossible i meant for sane/non corrupt people. obviously the judge who had williams winning 11 rounds over martinez would of had it a clean sweep for alexander. mattyhse dominated the 4th mattyhse dominated the 6th mattyhse dominated the 7th mattyhse dominated the 8th mattyhse domianted the 10th that's 95-94 mattyhse at the absolute worst. devon didn't even win the other 5 rounds he just didn't get beat to a pulp in them. you could easily give mattyhse 2 out of the first 3. Mattyhsse did not dominated the 10th lol, 6,7,8 he certainly did though, could have scored at least one 10-8 but that along with the 4th which he did not dominate either and could have been 10-9 instead of 10-8. He dominated 3 rounds exactly in the fight and got a knockdown in another, the fight is still can be lost, thus not impossible.

Some of those rounds were close, remember it isnt just punching thats supposed to be taking into account with scoring. Shush, you are that clown who had Devon up on kotelnik. I guess you are impressed with punches that have no power and are wild. let me paste this again There is no way in hell Devon won 6 rounds, he didnt land any hard shots and he even got landed less airpunches than Lucas Lucas threw more Landed more landed harder shots got a KD tried to go for the kill Devon did: Pitter patter combos that had no power Holding Holding Throwing arm punches So tell me, how does Devon win 6 rounds?

There is no way in hell Devon won 6 rounds, he didnt land any hard shots and he even got landed less airpunches than Lucas Lucas threw more Landed more landed harder shots got a KD tried to go for the kill Devon did: Pitter patter combos that had no power Holding Holding Throwing arm punches

You know exactly what I'm saying, and you know what I'm saying has a distinct ring of candor and integrity - let's just cut the crap and stop spinning. No I don't because I really don't care who won it was a good close fight I came away impressed with both men in certain ways~ I find it irritating watching people run their mouths about a good close fight without really thinking what they are saying~

Ok first three 5th, 9th and 10th. He certainly did not dominate the 10th, if you think he won the round fine because it could have gone either way. You said the word impossible, the fight could get scored this way, now that is not to say it is right but it CAN be scored that way. So thus not impossible. 95-94 how the hell did alexander win the 10th? you must get paid to come on here and defend certain fighters because that's just retarded. when i said impossible i meant for sane/non corrupt people. obviously the judge who had williams winning 11 rounds over martinez would of had it a clean sweep for alexander. mattyhse dominated the 4th mattyhse dominated the 6th mattyhse dominated the 7th mattyhse dominated the 8th mattyhse domianted the 10th that's 95-94 mattyhse at the absolute worst. devon didn't even win the other 5 rounds he just didn't get beat to a pulp in them. you could easily give mattyhse 2 out of the first 3.

yes it is impossible since devon got knocked down in the 4th and mattyse dominated the 10th. not a surprise you weren't paying attention. not to mention devon didn't necessarily win the first 3. Ok first three 5th, 9th and 10th. He certainly did not dominate the 10th, if you think he won the round fine because it could have gone either way. You said the word impossible, the fight could get scored this way, now that is not to say it is right but it CAN be scored that way. So thus not impossible. 95-94

Devon wins the first 4 9 and 10~ that scorecard is not impossible 95-94~ its impossible because devon was kissing the canvas in rd 4